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I find this movie really intense, breathtaking. It is made geniusly, with a little bit of humour in a few scenes and lot of pain and sourness, bitterness that keeps you watch. All the actors did great job, I loved the way Simon Baker potrayed Swank character's lover. He was so adorable. My romantic soul makes me mourn over why they didn't end up together... Ah, what a pity! This movie is a next position on my 'All the faves' list. Worthy watching. That is no doubt.

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I found it visually pretty, but utterly historically dishonest - meretricious in every sense (since that word derives from a Latin word for how Mme de la Motte earned her living).
My sole real attachment to it is that it introduced me to Adrien Brody, whom I'd love to see swashbuckle more, because he looked so beautiful...
love,
Doc M @ the Silver Whistle

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I just watched it and am still trying to figure out how this movie managed to make me feel sorry for a lecherous, blaspheming cardinal and a psychic fraud instead the heroine. I had no sympathy with Jeanne whatsoever, no matter how many times they flashed back to the exact same burning furniture/crying little girl scene. Does anyone know if this was just a vehicle for Hilary Swank or did they actually pick her out of all the actresses out there? Did they say, Hilary Swank! She'd be perfect for this! It's killing me, she's probably going to get yet another Oscar this year and she Can't Act.

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Your sympathies are not unreasonable, since the Cardinal was just an unfortunate stooge in the whole affair: a playboy, but hopelessly naive. He had been one of Jeanne's paying clients before the necklace scam, and the whole 'destruction of family and home' stuff never happened...
I can think of a number of actresses who would have been more convincing...
cheers,
Doc m @ the Silver Whistle

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Hilarious! =)

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Jonathan Pryce did a great job as Richelieu, making him more victim than villain. It was nice to see him portray something beside an out-&-out bad guy.

And who can resist the quirky charm of Christopher Walken?

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i think whomever is managing her now ( she may be dating?), is really trying to cast her in the hot leading lady roles. she had a more aesthetic role in 'the black dahlia'. i think she prob got tired of being called a horse face, etc & is pushing whomever to find roles that could change her image. *shrug* just a theory.

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This movie is so historically inaccurate!!!!!
I'm not saying it's not entertaining, though.
In my personal opinion, they took WAY too many "creative liberties" to get the audience to sympathize with Jeanne de Saint-Rémy.
But, as said before, still entertainig.

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I loved it. It is a movie focusing on people and events that I feel are very intetresting and really not covered enough in Hollywood films. I personally would love to see a movie about Robespierre.

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There is a movie about Robespierre: Danton by Andrzej Wajda


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Nor do I, but they understand us. Maybe not you..

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i think it is a very good movie, i love watching it. i saw it before i knew any of the facts and i remember thinking that madame de la motte was in the tumbril at the end!!! and i got really angry about it. but after learning the truth the film was kinda tainted for me, however i still love it although it is complete lies especially that horrible speech madame de la motte makes at the courtroom and the portrayl of Marie Antoinette

a good entertaining movie though

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I think it was great to, i'll probably have to see it again, to fully understand :P But my oh my, when Adrien Brody gets out of the bath, and has his towl wrapped around him.....Must say, I appreciated that scene ;). It was abit kinky some times,but over all, it was quite a good, B-film.

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I thought that it was a bit slow and I had trouble feeling much for Hillary Swank's character, but I thought that the relationship between her character and Simon Baker's character made it totally worth watching. He was fantastic! I had never seen him in anything before.

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Decently entertaining, though the costumes and scenery were quite pretty. Sure, it is not at all historically accurate, but it made for a good, entertaining story.

Logan: "Rory..I think you're special.."
Rory: "Like... stop eating the paste special?"

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I thought the movie was pretty entertaining and have told a friend of mine who loves French history to watch it. I'm now interested in the real story since I'm sure much (and likely most) is inaccurate.

I did keep thinking throughout the whole thing - all just to get your "name" back? What the heck? Seriously! Maybe it was a bigger deal than it is now but for crying out loud! I'd hazard a guess that she wasn't as "noble" in real life as the movie tries to make her out to be. "...when you've lost everything..." blah blah.

That said, I did enjoy it. (A movie with Simon Baker in it? Can't complain!)

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I just love that movie. Simon, Hilary, Adrien are fantastic. I have even read "The Queen's Necklace" by Alexandre Dumas to study the story of them and it's one amazing book.


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Is it really important that a movie be historically accurate? If I want to be taught something, I go and watch a doc on history channel. When I go to see a movie, I wnat to be entertained.
But, that's my opinion, of course. Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts.

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It has taken me quite some time now to read Antonia Fraser's researched biography of MA and conveniently enough I am in the very middle when the Affair of the Diamond Necklace begins to unravel. As far as from what I understand, which is so many hands and brains away from the truth I am sure. However, from what I have read (and probably grown biased from) is that there are a lot of inaccuracies, comparitively... which is my own mistake if you want to consider.

One in particular I can think of is the forgery done by Rétaux, he signs in the movie -Antoinette de France-. Yet I recall that the forged signature was -Marie Antointte de France-. Either way, it is all wrong as MA would have signed simply -Marie Antoinette- and I am surprised they did not cover that in the movie.. because it has some weight as to why the King had set for de Rohan's immediate arrest.

I was a little upset as to how Joely Richardson had been advised, or chose to portray MA, but I found her a wonderful actress in it overall. And MA's apparent glee in the presence of children was a bit prudent and not at all how I imagine MA would respond.

Hilary Swank looks nothing like Hilary Swank on the cover and so I was surprised to find she played Jeanne. But of course, she certainly looks like herself in the movie, despite the costuming.

Adrien Brody is a fine actor and he should have played a bigger part, as well as Christopher Walken, but I guess in the end just having them in a movie is good enough.

I did not find that the sexuality in the movie was at all out of taste. As for the nudity scenes, which were few, were important to point out a vital characteristic of not only the times, but the fact that a religious man was also a pervert.
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