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Just getting into the series at the age of 25, and it's hard.


Never read these books or watched these films growing up, for reasons I will not go into here. I just rented Philosopher's Stone/Sorcerer's Stone from my library. I have heard the later books are better, but my goodness, this book is bare bones. Very little depth and feels like a bad imitation of Roald Dahl with it's juvenile, grade-level writing style. I once heard a Catholic priest briefly review this book by saying it was "total garbage...not even worth reading on a literary level." He reiterated a few moments later, "It's a piece of junk literature. How that woman made over a billion dollars on that enterprise is beyond me." While I wouldn't be quite that harsh on the book, I still have to admit that it is not very engaging to me. For some reason, Hagrid taking Harry to Gringotts and Diagon Alley does not feel magical or wonder-inducing at all. The only redeeming quality is that its short and easy to read.

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Well, it sounds like you maybe would have liked it better when you were younger?
Because the first few books were written for pre-teens.

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Each book is written, for the most part, from Harry’s perspective. Harry turns 11 at the beginning of the first book, so the reader views it through the eyes of an 11 year old boy. I was impressed that I could really notice the difference each year - that in Book 5, it really felt like the perspective of a 15 year old.

But maybe this just isn’t your cup of tea. That’s ok, too.

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I didn’t start reading the books till I was 41. I only started reading it because my son who is not a big reader started reading it. I wanted to be able to discuss the book with him. I started chapter one late one night and next thing I knew it was an hour and half later! I couldn’t stop reading. I quickly became obsessed. My grandmother read the books as they were released and she was in her late 80s. She was a big Harry Potter fan.

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You deserve praise for a being a conscientious father trying to connect with your son by reading something he finds interesting. I read the first one at almost age 30. It wasn't for me, but I recognized its accomplishment in getting kids all over the world interested in reading again.

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Thanks I’m female by the way.

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My mistake. . You deserve praise for being a conscientious MOTHER.

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They actually get much worse over time. The first two are the only ones that really feel magical at all. The third one starts to get ridiculous by adding silly things like time travel, and then the fourth one and beyond become progressively more absurd. Same with the movies. The first two are pretty good, the third one is a mixed bag, and then they really start to suck after that.

As for their literary value, I think they are quite shallow, they borrow (or even steal) many tropes from other famous children's literature, and I think people only like them because they didn't (or in the case of children, don't) enjoy school and Hogwarts is a representation of what real-life education could and should be. The central theme of these books is actually not about Voldemort and how he killed Harry's parents or anything like that; it is that school is fun.

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I also re-watched the first two films recently and I was quite surprised at how good they were. They have really stood the test of time.

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Well judging by your short attention span I'm not surprised.

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I was around your age when I read the series(I worked in a bookstore at the time). It was fun enough at the time. The midnight releaseed were fun because kids were having a good time. It doesn't hold my interest now. The first movie was pretty cool for a kids movie, but I didn't care for the rest. The last two were awful. If they just stopped using all the slow motion, it could have been an hour and a half long. Not a fan to be honest.

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I never wanted to read the books. I started to watch the Series when I was 40. And right now I'm 60 and I'm starting over with the Series. Oh yeah.

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I quit the movies after I watched the 3rd one. First one isn't bad. Charming.

I couldn't read more than a few chapters of the first book. Terribly written. I have read a few YA books and they can be good. The HP book lacked any level of literary sophistication at all. An eye-rolling read. Perhaps OK for someone learning English or for people who don't read books or someone's first book they ever read (but there are tons of better suggestions. FAR better).

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I think you were approaching them incorrectly. The first book is written from the perspective of an 11 year old boy. The second from a 12 year old. If you actually read them, they become more complex, deeper, and darker as Harry grows into a young man.

I was 47 when I started to read them. I found them fascinating. They are not the greatest literature I have ever read, but they are far from the worst. Approach them as they were intended, and you might have a better experience.

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I am fine with an 11 yr old perspective but am not OK with poor writing. Bad prose.

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SHOW US ON THE MUGGLE WHAT HARRY MADE YOU DO WITH HIS WAND.

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What are you talking about?!?

>runs from room crying

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This. I was saying this for years, and I actually grew up alongside the series. Full disclosure: I loved the books and couldn't put them down. But I couldn't stand that the books were being made out to be examples of good writing. There was so much fiction out there, for the same target age group, that were far better written.

I think the most frustrating moment was when I realized that some school classes were teaching sorcerer's stone, and there was even a cliffnotes version available at the bookstore.

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Sorcerer’s Stone, and not Philosopher’s Stone, because US pre-teens do not know what a philosopher is—allegedly. If the do not, why the HELL not??

“Young Adult” is a complete bullshit name. 11 years old is nowhere near being an adult. “Young Adult” is the training bra of pop literature.

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