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Get this crap off top rated docs

posted 18 years ago by brocade39
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I cant believe this *beep* is #1 on the all time documentaries listing. Various Nirvana fannies will probably become hostile because I'm posting this, but the truth is this:

350'sh votes all from obvious fans who have done a direct search on it (slowly over the years) that consequently have voted isnt proper. This isnt a large enough sample size to really be considered. Something needs to be done.

I dont care what is done, but the method of rating in this respect is flawed. Sure there are other minor documentaries that have been rated and ranked similarly, that just means is they should also follow suite. I'm not asking for docs with 50,000+ ratings to be listed, but on the other end of the spectrum, 350 is not nearly enough.

[–] SgtKabukiManNYPD 18 years ago

Hear hear.

But I think most people realise these are just sympathy votes and have ignored it. Which makes Le Chagrin et la pitié the TRUE highest voted doc ever.

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Lone Wolf and Cub: Sword of Vengeance: 7.9

Get it onto the Top 250!

[–] Fuktz 18 years ago

Indeed, my fellow hyppocrites. No man can eat fifty eggs, let alone top a french movie.

*beep*

[–] kurt_cobain_is_god4494 18 years ago

Or maybe someone is being a little cry baby and doesn't want to see something they don't like on the top of the higest rated list. Nirvana fans aren't the only ones who'll become hostile because you posted this, a lot of people will. The one thing I hate the most is people who spend their time going to pages of movies/bands/songs they don't like and commenting on how stupid they are, or, in your case, why they shouldn't be on a certain list. Get a life. No one cares. It's an opinion anyway. You don't think it should be the highest rated? Fine! No one really cares what you think.
If you want to comment go to a page of a movie you like and post on why you think that movie is good. No one wants to hear your self-righteous bull****.

[–] qschilo 18 years ago

hey, kurt cobain is god (sic!)no one used the words 'how stupid they are" or said that it shouldn't be on the list (except for yourself). It's just about the fact that a documentary that has been voted only by 350 users cannot be declared the best documentaryever , but the one with the best arithmetic mean...

[–] liveart8 18 years ago

Get a life. This is called expression

[–] peckimpah3 18 years ago

well, i am a huge nirvana fan. and all i got to say is that in a last couple of years votes or voting lost it's way, right?
so, who likes - it likes it... who doesn't - take it to the judge :)

[–] euromatt 18 years ago

33 of the top 50 docs have less than 100 votes. Taking these 33 (2/3 of the docs) and doing an average of the votes gives you 466 which isn't all that far off from what the Nirvana doc got as far as number of votes.

Not much but it just shows that the majority of the docs have less than 1000 votes so I don't really get the whole argument here. Going by votes, bowling for columbine should be much closer to the top.

Either way, the voting system is the voting system. Due to the nature of documentaries, there's a damn good chance that whoever voted for them has some special interest in the topic covered by said movie (most people I know don't just randomly see docs, they choose based on whatever selection criteria they may have, music, environment, etc, etc). In which case it's a very good assumption that the majority of voters were Nirvana fans but also, it's an equally good assumption that at least several of the other docs on here are in the exact same position. Did you post this for each of them?

[–] h8kurdt 17 years ago

I've got to agree. I'm a big Nirvana fan but hell, they could've done a lot better than this... Let's just hope they hurry up and release '1991:the year punk broke' soon.

And 'Kurt is god', that could be the single most pathetic name on here.

[–] bob-fritz 17 years ago

I'm a Nirvana fan, too, but calling this the #1 doc ever is just silly. Although the 7 I just gave it won't change things much.
Some of the music is great (I especially loved their "Teen Spirit" on "Top of the Pops" where they undermined the lip-synch by obviously not playing), but there were way too many interviews where they whined about how nobody understood them (forget the millions of records sold and the sold-out shows).

[–] SgtKabukiManNYPD 17 years ago

But thinking about it it's only a list on IMDB, the site where any and every idiot with a PC can upvote films. Big deal!

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-Insert pop culture reference to make me look less of a nerd for using message boards-

[–] bob-fritz 17 years ago

That much is true. Anybody who thinks all three LOTR films deserve to be in the top 20 of all time is seriously whacked.

[–] Benito_Cavalera 17 years ago

I trust you have seen the documentary before coming to the conclusion that it's *beep* Because I would hate for you to of made an assumption and jump on an ever growing bandwagon of people who hate Nirvana because they are now deep seeded in the annuls of the mainstream consciousness, which seems to be one of the real reasons those who liked the band to begin with hate them now - because they're popular.

I could also point out more than likely you'd be the type of person to recite off a host of Grunge bands such as Green River, Mother Love Bone, Temple of the Dog and so forth to make yourself look like you've an experience with the music scene. But let's be honest brocade39 for a minute, I think s fair few Nirvana fans aren't all going to congregate onto IMDB to just raise the stock of ONE DVD when they could be talking in the poor spelling and equally poor grammar on MySpaces.

Fact is, if you HAVE seen this, you would be familiar with the excellent tempo set throughout the documentary, the great use of a stagnant montage treatment as well as just the almost ethereal feel of the piece as a homage to their friend (Krist and Dave), who they dearly miss.

It's an almost fitting eulogy, and I think that most people can see this.

[–] kasaganai 17 years ago

Anyway, Live! Tonight! Sold Out! is a fantastic rock and roll documentary. It really is. Just fantastic. If you are a fan, try to get your hands on The Year Punk Broke, another great early 90s "alternative" rock documentary, following Sonic Youth, Nirvana, Dinosaur Jr. , and a bunch of other great bands. I love nostalgia.