This is truly a great film, but I am a bit perplexed by the absence of even a hint of a love scene. Of course I understand the need for discretion, but is the viewer to believe that Devdas never experienced carnal love? Does the novel suggest otherwise? Could I be missing some symbolism in the film?
Wasn't this question answered on your Devdas Chandramukhi thread? It is idealism vs realism...
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And it is one terrible melodramatic flick! I'm sure if you'd seen earlier adaptations you'd feel otherwise.
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Flekks - I have and that earlier version with the hon. Dilip Saab is much much worse, he is like a pillar of wood - no emotions, no charisma, and Chandramukhi as played by Vyjayanthi mala is atrocious. I liked the old Paro though.
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Hello. You are right that I essentially asked the same question before but I have not found a satisfactory answer. 'Idealism vs realism' is so abstract. I do thank you for your comments.
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A love scene isn't always with sex, there are a lot of love scenes in Devdas, all the moments between him and Paro and him and Chandramukhi. Of course it's implied that Chandramukhi sleeps around because she's a courtesan, but I never found a hint with Devdas.
I'm just assuming since Paro was his only and true love and that he was waiting for her in that way, as we see that never happened because he rejected her proposal and he regretted it with his life.
I own the book and read it and there are really no hints either, as far as I can tell between the lines, but I only read it once so..and IMHO the movie is SO much better than the novel.
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It is implied during More Piya..Theres a blog on it
http://bollywhat.com/ramblings/DEVD_ram.html
Thanks for your reply but I'm sorry I don't understand. What is More Piya and how is it implied?
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I will watch it again. Thank you.
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Someone commented on the BollyWHAT? forum that they believed More Piya (MP) to be a highly stylized depiction of what was actually a sexual encounter. Don't remember who it was, but now I agree. Think about it: the Kahe Chhed Mohe (KCM) song, which is the next song after MP, is an exact retelling of the scene we saw in MP with one new detail: Radha, aka Chandramukhi, claims that Krishna "stole away her honor."
This explains a lot. It explains why the song makes Devdas so incredibly uneasy, so agonized that he jumps up at the end and declares that he shouldn't have sent the letter and he's going back home. The song is throwing in his face the crime he committed: sleeping with Paro (an act with very serious social ramifications for her) and then abandoning her. Furthermore, if the version which Chandramukhi sings is the true, "uncensored" version of what happened in MP, it also explains why Devdas flinches when Chandramukhi says "Ish." The first time I watched this film, I thought he reacted so violently because he associates that word with Paro. Now I've watched it again, I realize that a lot of other characters say that word. Chandramukhi, however, says it in a context in which its meaning is "Shame on you!", and Devdas flinches because he DOES feel shame -- not, I argue, because he's simply left Paro, but because of what he did *before* he left her.
That makes a lot of sense--I wondered why there was that emphasis on the Krishna story. (I also felt that the scar Devdas gave her, the blood of which marked her as if she were married, might be symbolic of the same thing, though I don't have anything from another site to back me up on this.)
It's also worth noting that both More Piya and Kahe Chhed Mohe included spoken vocals (I can't really describe it as rap) which was in none of the other songs (and most of the songs in Devdas sound quite similar, aside from Dola re Dola and Chalak Chalak. Certainly, I doubt that the similarities between "Maar Dala" and "Silsila Ye Chahaat Ka" were due to an accident, or laziness on the part of the composers.)
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in the west love is all about making love and that is why love has only become a fiction in the west.
but in the easet love is not about making love and i think they showed it in tihs film and it also makes the film even more beautiful.
laka da hall pa levanyo yama
prade watan ke pa lambo yama.
by Aimal Khan Ameel.
Yes, the west is very bad....
sharei watched devdas all over again to get what u guys meant.
yes, devdas n paro have had a sexual encounter (from what i see in morey piya scene)..
another hidden symbolism, chandramukhi touches paro's feet saying "This is for the one whom I cannot replace her (in terms of loving Devdas)". Maybe Chandramukhi meant so-called 'sexual' rights causing Paro to lose temper..
Don't you think so?
This is really helpful. I have studied the More Piya song more closely and I believe the comments here are correct. Certainly it is an erotic scene. I think in a subtle way it suggests a sexual encounter. Very nicely done, so parents can bring children without having a problem. Thanks again.
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