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Devdas' 'love' - Spoilers

posted 18 years ago by Tinylittlezombies
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I'm not sure I understand Devdas' 'love' for Chandramukhi...

When he leaves her for the last time, a dying man, he said something to the effect of ...in the next life I will not be kept away from you... (sorry I have only seen this once and am unsure about exact dialogue) as well as professing that he loves her.

I understood his love for Chandramukhi as somewhat grateful - not that he ever showed it to her - for her care and affection, a love one would have for a sibling. Therefore I do not understand his assurance that they will be together in an afterlife. If anyone should be together, I would assume it would be Paro and Devdas. I am unsure how the concept of 'afterlife' is used in this film also, so I am sorry if I have greatly misunderstood the entire scene!

Any thoughts or answers??

Thanks for any responses and apologies for the lack of accuracy with the dialogue!

[–] deep388 18 years ago

Well, to be honest that is exactly what i got from that scene as well. It is one of the most emotional scenes of the movie, i think what Devdas was doing was justifying that in the next life because neither were able to obtain their loves (Devdas couldnt have Paro, Chandramuhki couldnt obtain Devdas), and the fact that Devdas and Chandramukhi acknowledged that they loved each other but were not able to give each other there all (i.e. Devdas feelings still tied with Paro as they had a bond since childhood, and Chandramukhi not being to be be with him coz of their castes and status, she was a courtesan and being with a prostitiute was absolutely belitting to people and society, they treated them horribly i'd imagine, think back to how she was publically mocked after the Dola Re Dola song)Acknowledging all of this, Devdas sums up that all these hardships had kept their love apart that he vows that the next life they will be freed from there hardships and shall be together in the form of her and Paro as one. I dunno, this is what i think but i hope it sort of makes sense and helps u :-)

[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

I truly don't think that Devdas had those kinds of feelings for Chandramukhi, all he ever acknowledged to her was his gratefulness (like the original poster said but imo it never had any love intentions) towards her for being there so to speak when he was drunk all those times. I mean it's obvious he only wanted to be with Paro which drove him to the state he went into. Not even Chandramukhi can deny what Paro and Devdas have between them.

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[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

That's right elisa. And remember how he said goodbye to her. He promises her to love her in her next life, no one can tell how she'll be punished by the lords. He wanted Paro from the very beginning, they loved each other more than anything else.

That is right. He couldn't bear anyone else touching her. He said at the beginning of the movie when they saw each other again for the first time in over 10 years. She doesn't show him her face. She wanted him to see her by moonlight.

"I promise you, before I die I'll surely come to your doorstep"

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[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

My favorite scenes are the ones where they are together especially after he loses her when she marries someone else and he turns to alcohol and everything. They are sad scenes but great. I like the fact that the actor who played Devdas showed a lot of emotion in this movie, he's very good.

But my most favorite is when he is asking her over and over if she'll elope with him. Very intense scene and not to mention heartbreaking.

"I promise you, before I die I'll surely come to your doorstep"

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[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

Who is "Dola Re"? If that is a character from this movie, then I feel stupid. I can't pronounce some of the names right so I can't recall who is who except for Paro and Devdas and the courtesan. Well I know who they are but I can't say/remember their names..

And btw this is the first Hindi movie I've ever seen. Well maybe the second one I have seen, but B&P is a Hollywood/Bollywood film.

"I promise you, before I die I'll surely come to your doorstep"

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[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

Ok..thanks! I'll have to look out for that and watch it again..I taped it from the DVD and I usually go to the good parts between Dev and Paro.

I thought B&P was a combination of both?? I guess not..

"I promise you, before I die I'll surely come to your doorstep"

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[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

Ok..sure..Is there any others with a similar storyline??

I checked on my library website and they have another movie with Sharuka Khan(sp?) in it, can't remember the name though, I'll get back to you when I find out.

"I promise you, before I die I'll surely come to your doorstep"

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[–] black_stormraven 18 years ago

www.indiaweekly.com has some really good movies with Aishwarya and Shahrukh and Madhuri for cheap prices. I've ordered 3 already with Aishwarya in them, and I'm planning on getting more films from them when I get my next paycheck (if gas doesn't kill me first, that is).

At the website, you can do a search for films by actor/actress or title or whatever you're looking for. It's really good.

By the way, this was my first Indian movie too. It was actually Bride and Prejudice that turned me on to Bollywood, and now I'm in love with it!

"Never trust a f *ckin' angel." - The Prophecy

[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

Thanks for the information and links..

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[–] black_stormraven 18 years ago

You're welcome! I love sharing movie info with people.

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[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

Yep!! I am becoming more and more obsessed with this movie!

Does anyone else find the entire movie just really powerful in terms of it's love story and everything??

"I promise you, before I die I'll surely come to your doorstep"

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[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

Well I don't know about all of that but to me it defined what a love story is really about, imo.

"I promise you, before I die I'll surely come to your doorstep"

[–] chrismatt83 18 years ago

Elisa,

If you liked shahrukh khans performance in Devdas in this you will surely appreciate these movies of his as well....

Dilwale Dulhaniya le jaayenge
Kuch Kuch hota hai
Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham
Swades
Dil Se

[–] eden_echo 18 years ago

Thanks!

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[–] HeadleyLamarr 17 years ago

About 3/4 of the way through Devdas realizes that Paro will never be his. He tells Chandramukhi that he is the only one who loves her (this is in the scene where he is lying by the water fountain).. He tells her he is like a cup filled to the brim with love for Paro so what would happen if more was poured in? Her response - it would flow over but people would know it had come after touching the cup. Then he says so let it spill - but just then he is informed of his father's death and leaves. Then he is very sick and back at Chandramukhi's house and he tells her that except for him no one loves her - but he cannot bear to see the pain in her eyes as he is slowly dying and must leave. That is when he says in the next life he will not be able to leave her.. This is really love for her, IMO. He finally realizes that she really does love him and that he loves her too, but all his life he has pined for Paro and promised her that before dying he will definitely come to her doorstep - that is his final journey..

[–] Anwar_Puttarjee 16 years ago

I agree with SRani; Devdas definitely developed love for Chandramukhi also towards the end, and it was not just some acknowledgement or gratefulness. But this does not mean that he loved Paro less.

[–] roseytrebles 16 years ago

Eggghhh...this part of the film has always confused/bothered me so much. I like to think that Devdas's love for Chandramukhi is one of gratitude but I'll admit that I've never quite been able to convince myself and it rankles me a bit every time. I guess I'm a purist in the sense that I have trouble believing that anyone can really love two people at once, or equally, or in the same way. I know that if you're to look at this story as the Krishna/Radha/Mira legend, as a lot of people do, then you can look at Chandramukhi as an incarnation of Paro, one who takes care of him when Paro cannot. But they're so different! If he loves them equally and they're joined as one in the afterlife with him, then what kind of a spirit does that make...? If they join together then I have to feel like nobody gets exactly what they want, because it's all mixed up together and kind of tainted. If Devdas spends his whole life wanting Paro and basically dies because of her, how can he be satisfied with an afterlife Paro all mixed up with someone else? Maybe Chandramukhi wouldn't care but it's not exactly fair to her either, and I'd imagine that after all that mess Paro would want Devdas to herself. Devdas never would have even met Chandramukhi if it hadn't been for his and Paro's tragic mistakes, and if he'd been with Paro alone I don't think he would have found anything lacking...who wants to deal with a love triangle in the afterlife too? Also in the book Chandramukhi tells Devdas that she truly loved someone else before him too, and they parted over some argument about jewelry. So that's confusing to me too...I wrote a whole rant about the book in another post. Anyhow I realize that this is kind of an immature way to look at this but I can't help it...thoughts?

[–] roseytrebles 16 years ago

Sorry that this is kind of out of order, everyone, since this is kind of an addition to post I made below, but reading this over I just had this thought as well--

Do any of you guys think that if he says he'll never part with Chandramukhi in the next life, because the barriers between them, as lots have said, will have been removed, that this kind of implies that in the next life he'll have gotten over Paro? That's kind of what I can't help feeling, and I don't like it at all--as if he knows that he's tied irrevocably to Paro in this life but in the next one he can shed all of that and just be with Chandramukhi. And if that is so it really isn't fair at all, because it metes out a much harsher punishment for Paro than it does for Devdas, and I look at the mistakes that they each made as being roughly the same. Paro never stops loving Devdas, clearly, so it seems really cruel that he might have finally gotten over her and wants to spend eternity with someone else. It's just that if he really means he'll "never be able to part" from Chandramukhi, does that imply that he'll never part with her to be with Paro? That's kind of what the sick part of me feels, and that's why I don't like it. Surely, surely this can't be; this is the sort of hurdle I have to accepting this idea that he loves and wants Chandramukhi in the end.

[–] anahita3740 15 years ago

This is Indian mythology ,,,that s why everyone is confused,,,

Devdas loved Paro since he was a child and it was not easy for him to get over her for someone else and the main reason he came back home was the fact that he missed Paro as much as he went straigt to see her before her mother,,so a love more than anything else and more than anyone else,,so Devdas loved Paro even more than her mother and that means more than himself,,,that s why when he parted from Paro, he started drinking and leaving family and all people that they were the cause of parting,,,because nothing mattered anymore , even the health and life for Devdas,,'
That is the reason that Devdas said To Chandramukhi that he realised her love but he will love her in the after life,,,because in this life and in this world He has nothing to give to Chandramukhi no love and no loyalty,,,and the fact his soul is connected to Paro ,,,
But other side Paro was married so in the after life according to Indian beliefs still her soul will be connecting to her husband so not even in the after life there is a chance for Devdas to reach Paro,,,
And Devdas meant to see Chandramukhi in the after life because they are both sharing one thing and the fact that they are both lovers with incomplete love story from their past,,and misarable desperette love story,,,so he promised her to love her in the after life to pay back the care of Chandramukhi,,,

[–] roseytrebles 15 years ago

Oh gosh, so you're thinking in that case that Devdas and Paro aren't together even in the afterlife??? That's so depressing....

I mean, to think that after all that Devdas does because of Paro, and all of the tears that they both shed over their mistakes, they can't ever be together and Devdas will ultimately be tied to some other, good woman whom he still didn't/doesn't love (or at least not in the same way) for all eternity, while Paro is stuck with this husband of hers--that's so, so bleak. What about Paro's husband, do you think, since he had two wives? If he could maybe be with two people at once in the afterlife, could Devdas be? Even that I wouldn't like, though, honestly...two's company but three's a crowd, I've always thought.

Oh and what do you think about the first love Chandramukhi mentions, the one she loved but whom she fought with over jewelry? That's in the book, though, not the movie...and I think you posted in a thread of mine about the book that you haven't read the book yet. Sigh.

[–] anahita3740 15 years ago

that is also a good Point ,,,but Maybe u are right,,this is really confusing as I said,,maybe Devdas only meant that He can t love Chandramukhi in this life,,,but yes u are right,,lovers soul will join to one another in the after life,,
and maybe Devdas meant that he will love Chandramukhi because in the after life everything is spritually and no more obsessions and selfish,,,And maybe Devdas was feeling that his love for Paro is selfish.
but Paro and Chandramukhi , they both loved Devdas at first sight,,but one is married and another one unmarried,,this is an eastern world , a very complicated culture and life,,,u can imagine,,,

[–] Ace54 13 years ago

Guys! Everyone knows that there is a sequel to Devdas in which he meets Chandramukhi in the next life. It's called: "Dil to Pagal Hai."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ejXiEkKTi6U/TD-itTAESmI/AAAAAAAABRM/hNGHsTgg X30/s320/Dil+To+Pagal+Hai5.bmp

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[–] Forlorn_Rage 8 years ago

Or it could be Anjaam where they both wind up hating and killing each other at the end. xD