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Similar themes as The Death of Mr. LazArescu?


Anyone seen both films? And where the hell can u watch this?



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Completely different movies, and you can purchases both films through Amazon.com.Lazarescu is about a dying cancerous-sick old man living in the post-communist slums of Bucarest, he drinks and pop pills even though the drinking and pill-popping are contributing to his dying, he's carried from hospital to hospital (indictment of Roumania's post-communist somewhat socialist health care system) as his condition worsens. The first paramedic does everything she can to help him, she tries to get Lazarescu's neighbours to accompany him to the hospital but they refuse, Lazarescu has no immediate family so he's alone with nobody to speak for him other than the first paramedic who becomes his sole advocate, he's treated like a pile of manure at every hospital he's taken to (the doctors want him out), the hospitals are understaffed and lacking resources, the doctors treat the paramedic with scorn, Lazarescu is simply another nameless faceless patient, his dignity stripped, there is dark humour throughout, but the film is a harsh watch, and is really a cinematic essay on human rights in post-communist Eastern Europe countries.Ivansxtc is a modern approach to Tolstoi's The Death Of Ivan Ilyich set in Hollywood. Ivan is a meteroic talent agent dying from cancer, but the story is the story of a world in which people don't care whether they live or die. It's a world where peope live in-the-moment, feed on materialistic pleasure, and spend much of their lives binging on booze and drugs and sex. It's closer to Leaving Las Vegas - people are beyond the point of no return, they know the lifestyle won't bring them true happiness, they know the lifestyle destroys them, they know they're wasting their lives, and they live that way anyway. Complete and utter desensitization towards and dismissal of morality and ethics. As Ivan nears his death, the guilt and remorse of how he's wasted his life slams into him, his desire for spiritual fulfillment haunts and taunts him, his carefully crafted persona and his carefully crafted defense-mechanisms (to shut down feelings of regret and remorse) disintegrate, his fear of dying nearly kills him because he's dying alone and because nobody cares he's dying and because he knows he wasted his life and has no chance to redeem his life), and on his death bed, a deeper transformation occurs (suffering over.....) that we only catch a glimpse of. Both films feature a man dying all alone of cancer, but that is where the "similarity" beings and ends.I rated both films 10/10, but Ivansxtc is the better film, it's transcendent and at times mind-blowing and transfigurative and magnificent and simply wow wow wow wow wow. It's a cinematic pulsar, a masterpiece, Bernard Rose is a genius, and Danny Huston gives one of the greatest male performances, ever. Still waiting ever-so-patiently for Rose to direct another Tolstoi tale (he's also directed The Kruetzer Sonata and Anna Karenina), with Huston in the lead.

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Thanks. It's just I remember reading the story and from what I can remember it occurred at Ivan's funeral. And it was all about how no one gave a *beep* that he died. They were just going on with there messed up lives. But I read it a long time ago. I'd really like to see it.



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Did you ever see ivansxtc? I wrote and produced it. Just wondering. I never check the imdb boards and neither Bernard nor I had heard of The Death of Mr. LazArescu, though, since "ivans" was adapted from the Tolstoy novella, The Death of Ivan Ilyich, which is public domain material, it is possible that the Romanian filmmakers also did an adaptation or were inspired by the novella.
Quite coincidentally, Mr. Rose and I made another film in Bucharest in 2004 with the unfortunate title, Snuff-Movie.

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Still haven't seen it! :(




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