What a mess.


I’m not “down” on this film because it is a huge departure from what I expect from Le Carre, I read the book and enjoyed it a lot. The problem is that this is just a mediocre, perhaps even bad, film. I think that mostly comes from the director not knowing if he wants it to be a parody or serious, or someplace in between. Neither of the two endings on the DVD work at all, they are not plausible either as a parody or serious possibility, they simply don't fit at all. I think the director going all-out on the parody path was a missed boat. As it is, this movie is bad, poorly put together mess that could have been a gem.

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I agree completely. le carre is supposed to be relalistic and serious. I have been to panama and 1. No one talks about Noriega. For crying out loud, he has been gone 15 years. You really think he is on the average man's mind. Secondly, Jamie Lee Curtis talks about "right wing senators" taking back the canal. No mainstream politician wants to take back the canal. I, honestly, have no idea what they were thinking.

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Well, nothing says Le Carre has to be serious, but the director of this dog did a lousy job.

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Yup, look at what John Boorman did to the sequel to The Exorcist.

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Forgive me but you honestly don't know what you're talking about. This movie was not set in the present. The book was published in 1997 and the action takes place in the early to mid-1990s probably around the time that a Chinese company took over management of the Canal. In the 1980s Panama was very much on the minds of quiet a few people and it remains a hot button but low key political issue today especially among those on the right. In the mid-1990s, the Chinese were very interested in taking over management of the canal and a Chinese company now manages it. This angered the American right and raised concerns in both the US and Europe. Perhaps what you mean to say is that you aren't interested in Panama or Noriega. The Canal was given back to Panama by Jimmy Carter in the late 1970s and the American Right has always been angered by this because they see the Canal Zone as American soil (John McCain was born there). For quite a few years after the Canal was returned to Panama, the Right maintained a hope that the US would get it back. The treaty returning the Canal to Panama gave the US certain rights to ensure that it would never fall into the hands of anyone who would prevent Western interests from using it: GHW Bush for example, used treaty language to justify his invasion of Panama in 1989. I don't know precise treaty language or if that language sunseted out of the original treaty. If you don't think the Rush Limbaugh crowd doesn't remain hostile to the treaty giving the Canal back to Panama then you aren't as politically astute as you think you are. Naturally, no politician speaks publicly about taking back the Canal because the treaty is legal and it remains binding. When a Chinese company took over management of the canal in the 1990s you can bet there was serious talk behind the scenes about potential problems. The Panamanians and the Chinese went out of their way to assure Americans and British that nothing about use of the Canal would change... and fortunately nothing has changed.

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Actually, I didn't mind the movie at all. It is by far le Carre's most satirical book, and I thought it carried across well in the movie. You were supposed to be questioning all the way through if this was serious or a joke. Brosnan played an unusual role for him, and Rush was perfect. However, I didn't care for the scenes where Uncle Benny popped into things, nor did I care for the alternate ending.

The only second chance you get is to make the same mistake twice. - David Mamet

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The book is great and movie is fine and yes I'd agree that it is Le Carre best effort at satire using irony as the principle tool. Brosnan's roll was his James Bond persona grandly overplayed; Osnard is like Bond's evil twin. Rush was brilliant but then all of the actors did a great job.

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Yup. The movie wasn't a "parody" at all. It's a legitimate satire of real-world intelligence types.

And a darn good one, too, if you know much about anything.

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John Boorman is a great director. People like to bash Exorcist 2 because it was different then the first one. Of course the mindless mass wanted more of the same, they don't like original ideas. The Exorcist is one of the best horror movies ever, but that doesn't mean the second is bad because it is different. Anyway Boorman did a great job on The Tailor of Panama as well. Calling Boorman a lousy director is very foolish, really.

"What If" is a game for scholars.
Timothy Dalton, The Lion in Winter (1968)

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Completely agree.

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The problem with comparing movies to their books is that they don't usually compare well at all (Russia House is another example of a good movie based on a great John Le Carre book). Still, The Tailor of Panama was in my opinion brilliant BUT if you don't appreciate spy humor in a very dark key, and, if you can't fathom irony, then this movie is likely to disappoint. The movie was never intended to be a parody but neither is it a serious movie. Let me help a bit: Irony, in modern usage, can refer to incongruity between the intended meaning of an action and the actual or perceived meaning of an action (as opposed to parody, which means, in contemporary usage, to mock, comment on, or poke fun at an original work, its subject, or author, by means of humorous or satiric imitation. Black comedy, aka black humor or dark comedy, is a sub-genre of comedy/satire where topics and events that are usually regarded as taboo (such as death, rape or domestic violence--in the case of Tailor of Panama international espionage, death, sex, etc)) are treated in a satirical or humorous manner. If you've seen Tailor then I trust you can understand that it isn't parody at all but very, very blackly ironic. I've seen all the Brosnan Bond flicks and in this movie his character Osnard acts at times like Bond. My guess is that you never quite understood what the director or actors were trying to do and that's why you panned it in your comment: Certainly, if thought the movie was a parady I can well understand your opinion! Once you gain an understanding of irony and black humor, I suspect you might rethink your evaluation. I found the movie interesting, perfectly sensible, internally consistent, with great acting (you might watch a few of Brosnan's Bond flicks especially The World is Not Enough at this will give you a better handle on the irony). I give the movie 4 stars out of a possible 5.

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Nicely done, Roger.
I love this film. I much prefer Brosnan in this sort of dodgy, less heroic roles, over macho roles.

Carpe Noctem

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Never read the book. Never will. Loved the movie. Period.

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Good film and in fact true to life 25 years ago. Perhaps not even sure a taste for parody, irony or satire are required. I used to observe intelligence types from UN field offices, and real-life raffish amoral types with a taste for black humor were not exactly uncommon, at least prior to rendition days.

I dont know Panama but I do know it had a reputation not unlike Berlin's for furtive goings-on there. CIA station chief Robert Lady, long wanted by the Italians, installed himself there. When the Italians zeroed in on him, after a brief attempt to flee elsewhere he boarded a military plane for the US, though he never disembarked at the other end and was helped to disappear in midair.

Having diligently watched the Remington Steele series when first aired I prefer Brosnan in dry-comedy roles more than any other. Bruce Willis first emerged the same way, at the same time, in the quite similar Moonlighting series.

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Thought it´s a smart mix of satire and more serious stuff, sometimes funny, sometimes poignant. It´s also fairly well paced and told with relative clarity, considering the genre where plots often tend to get murky and exceedingly complex. Fine acting across the board, too, particularly by Rush (never seen a poor performance by him yet... or by Brendan Gleeson, for that matter). A captivating enough little film.



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