Typical Black Comedian schtick


Why is it that every single black comedian, without exception (well, maybe Sinbad) always, ALWAYS does the whole black-white differences shtick, that shows how "nerdy" white people are as compared to black people? That crap got old back in the 80's after Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy. But they still seem to thing that it's "cutting edge", and "satirical". And where the hell does Spike Lee get off calling them "The Original Kings of Comedy"? So, there was never any such thing as George Carlin, Milton Berle, Lenny Bruce, Bill Cosby, Johnny Carson, Jerry Lewis, etc? Obviously, as always, Spike Lee has an agenda that he and he only cares about. Give me the Blue Collar Comedy Tour anyday, at least they can get through almost two hours and not make it rated R in a desperate attempt to seem edgy.

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I agree that these four HILARIOUS comedians are not the only "Kings" of comedy, but Spike Lee is not the one who gave them that title, they gave it to themselves. The movie was filmed while the comedians went on a comedy tour called the Original Kings of Comedy. It wasn't done to overshadow other comedians or great comedians of the past, but no other comedy troupe in recent times has traveled with that moniker.

However, I can never remember a George Carlin show that WASN'T "R" rated! And if it wasn't, it had to been at a different time in his life than the last 30 yrs or so. And I take that you don't watch or even care for every Black comedian or you wouldn't have said that they play up the "black-white differences schtick." Apparently if comedians continue to include in their material, then it must garner some laughs, I know it can be extremely funny to me from time to time.

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The person who started this topic is absolutely right. Every black comedian I've seen, in the past 5 years especially, it's the same old crap. Some of them are actually funny when they don't talk about it. Dave Chappelle...that show is great 80% of the time, but when he starts making fun of white people, it just gets boring. Bernie Mac and Chris Rock, extremely funny, because they actually have range in their material. And this sentiment can be seen in pretty much every "black themed" movie recently as well. Take, for example.


Undercover Brother: If this movie was made with reverse characters (black/white), it would have been picketed for racism and wouldn't have even lasted a week. Unfunny racist movie that tries to use the disguise of making fun of those cheesy 70's shows such as Shaft, Foxy Brown and Dolemite. Had its moments, but the excess of white jokes just made this movie go south.

National Security: Here's a brief and extremely accurate plot summary. Racist-because-I'm-incompetent black guy knowingly sets up white person to go to prison. But because he's so damn charismatic (haha) they wind up becoming friends at the end. Why? I'm not really sure. But here's an example of the good guy's lines and the bad guy's lines.

Good Guy (talking to good white cop): "You gonna arrest me now, you friggin Nazi? (movie theatre laughs)
Bad Guy (talking to good black racist): "You friggin monkey." (no laughs, because he's evil apparently.)

Gee....I guess I really do see the difference there. Yeah, calling someone a Nazi (derogatory white term) is much different than calling someone a monkey (derogatory black term). How could I ever have assumed otherwise?


You Got Served: Black street dealers are good guys just trying to dance and defeat the evil white man. Nothing else to say here, as this movie deserves to be the worst movie of all time on IMDB. I'm sure the sequel will be a success......


Soul Plane: Tom Arnold, needing work, agrees to be the butt of every joke in this movie where black people fly a plane and dance on it. The only redeeming quality here is that they are also making fun of themselves in attempt to show that making fun of white people is OK. Still a little racist, but hey, at least they make an attempt to cover it up. And as stupid a movie as it is, the fact that they make fun of everyone here makes it a little more tolerable.


I could go on but I'm just making myself ill by remembering some of these movies.

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stfu.... a soul plane was a slap in the face with sterotypical black people. you got served was kinda like that dancin was good i guess and thats it. but defeating the evil man, cmon man its people like you who think like that who make things racist and bring tension. cmon white people for a long time have been makin fun of black... try the early 70 and beyond...well that doesnt count cause you guys were just hangin us off trees back then.

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I've always said that black comedy tends to, at some point, devolve into black vs white jokes or sex jokes. It becomes very tiring after awhile. My favorite comedians are those who have other topics other than what goes on in the hood, racial differences and how good we can f** k . Unfortunately 90% of the comedians on Def Jam and Bad Boys of Comedy do those exact routines every week laced with profanity and n-word-isms. And the black females comics generally only talk about sex, relationships, hair and sex. Queens of Comedy was exactly just that and only Monique had a routine that had any real variety.

Comedians like Sinbad, Bernie Mac, Bill Cosby, Wanda Sykes and a few others (I left out Chris Rock because his shows have become more and more racial especially his last HBO special) who tell regular jokes or have a wide variety in their show's content that don't focus primarily on those subjects are basically rejected (with the exception of the late Bernie Mac R.I.P.) by the majority of modern black comedy audiences as if nothing in their routines represent black life.

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Black culture vs. white culture is funny. It's a great contrast. It doesn't always portray whites as being "nerdy." Sometimes it shows blacks in a negative light too. You would have to have grown up in an urban area to appreciate this movie. I went to an all black school and I am a white person and I can see the humor in this movie. They don't mean anything hateful by it. They poke fun of white people and themselves. If you can't laugh at yourself that's sad. I wish everyone would stop being so uptight. The Blue Collar Comedy tour was a desperate attempt by a bunch of rednecks to capitalize on and emulate the Kings of Comedy. I will take Cedric, Bernie, Steve, and D.L. over Foxworthy and his lame, repetitive redneck "jokes".

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And why is it that every single uptight non-black person can't take a few minutes to laugh at the flaws of their own culture. The "nerdy" white people of our culture (yes, I am white) perhaps deserve to be laughed at if they can't take a joke delivered in the proper context. Yes, there have been white comedians (Jeff Foxworthy hardly qualifies as one, having possessed a 10-year running "Redneck" schtick that was completely "out" when it was "in." And I do use "in" highly loosely), but Cedric, Bernie, Steve, and D.L. were very professional in their interpretations and projecting their perspectives of the flaws of various cultures. As well, they very vividly portrayed the differences between genders, races, and everyday things uptight morons like you would hardly notice. Spike Lee may have an agenda, but that agenda has provided many hours of laughter into the lives of a great amount of people (you obviously not being one of them). Furthermore, Spike did not intentionally exclude the great comedic stylings of Bruce, Carlin, etc..., he just provided a (appropriately fitting) name for the four people who could most diligently provide a fresh new brand of humor of the 21st century. And I find it very sad that you would prefer a lame attempt which desperately tried to cling onto the success of the "Kings" rather than simply opening your narrow pea brain and accepting a few chuckles at the expense your own race.

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potatoesdaniel, brilliantly said. i mean it's chris rock that jokes a lot about black people. being in australia, you notice on tv how hung up america is on race and cultural division. it has to be joked about or it becomes too serious and you get a lot of hatrid. if its not your style dont watch it. america is all about freedom of speech no? so yes, white people can technically joke about black people but history makes that seem a little tasteless really.

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Ummm, the tour was called "THe Original Kings Of Comedy" Get your facts staright, and black-white comparisons is not getting old, cause it's still funny as hell.

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no, au contraire, it ticked me off that every sentence they used contained 'white folks' or 'black folks'.

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Yes, the black vs. white bit got old decades ago, and you're right, Spike Lee does have an agenda, but "You might be a redneck..." was funny for about five minutes in 1989. The Blue Collar Comedy Tour sucks. Bill Engvall and his brilliant insight into the differences between men and women. Wow. Genius. The only remotely funny one is Larry the Cable Guy, and that's because he's such a stump-jumping hillbilly (at least on stage) that the character himself is more interesting than his material.

Back to the "Original" Kings of Comedy (not). If anything, these comedians are contributing to the racism they claim to be fighting against. George Carlin had it right when he pointed out the things that make us all the same. So did Bill Cosby.

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Cassius X,

So if all of the stuff Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle say is true, does that mean we should go back to telling racist jokes? ("How do you stop five black guys from...etc...") It's the same... exact... thing. You're making a generalization about a group of people based on skin color. It's all stupid; let it go.

I love your "p.s. white people suck", followed by "love & peace ya'll". That's funny. Just like a gangsta rapper yelling about doing drive-bys and slappin' hoes, then ending the song by shouting "Peace!"

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I don't know how they are contributing to racism. THEY ARE COMEDIANS. That's like accusing John Stewart of contributing to political cynicism. They're just making fun of stereotypes that people have already heard. They make fun of both black and white people (because each of their cultures have funny aspects). I've never seen the Blue Collar Comedy tour but I have seen the "You might be a redneck" routine which also makes fun of aspects of a certain section of american culture. That doesn't make that schtick racist. Never do any of these comedians ever say one race is inferior or superior to another, nor do they state that the comedy is intended for just one race, they simply point out difference that exist amongst some of us. It's great that Cosby and Carlin pointed out the similarities in all of us but it can also be funny to point out the differences.

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I don't know how they are contributing to racism. THEY ARE COMEDIANS. That's like accusing John Stewart of contributing to political cynicism. They're just making fun of stereotypes that people have already heard. They make fun of both black and white people (because each of their cultures have funny aspects). I've never seen the Blue Collar Comedy tour but I have seen the "You might be a redneck" routine which also makes fun of aspects of a certain section of american culture. That doesn't make that schtick racist. Never do any of these comedians ever say one race is inferior or superior to another, nor do they state that the comedy is intended for just one race, they simply point out difference that exist amongst some of us. It's great that Cosby and Carlin pointed out the similarities in all of us but it can also be funny to point out the differences.


^^This. Exactly!

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