Has anyone seen this?
Just wondering if it was any good. If anyone has any info please feel free to share.
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MovieChat Forums > Dead in the Water (2002) Discussion > Has anyone seen this?
lolita67, and anyone else who passes by ...
I just watched it then read all the user comments. I think I fall somewhere in the middle of all the opinions. Some of the music grated on my nerves, but the latin-ish, jazz-ish mix music is good - though it's an aquired taste for this American. Much of the film didn't hold my *full* attention; I read comments when the movie had too much wait-and-wait-more non-action. I guess I was supposed to pick up a lot of thriller-related emotion from the silence/imagery.
Basically, it's about stereotypically American and Americanized bully-youths, past the age of majority, who think "practical jokes" are acceptable and haven't the maturity to be out on a boat without *real* adult supervision.
This movie crossed my reality barrier because most of the under-35's I've met in recent years have been much like the characters in this movie ... pretty despicable people, IMO.
That said, readers might give this movie a chance for the music and the elusive bits of beautiful scenery.
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I caught the last half hour of it almost 24 hours ago and well, at least I got to see Dominique Swain in a bathing suit.
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I saw this in Park City, Utah when it was screening at s festival there (not Sundance)and I was pretty intrigued by it. I think the film is worth a watch and is not too painful at under an hour and a half.
shareI really like the movie, and recommend it for people who like psychology. I commented on the film positively two years ago, but my comment is no longer here. ?? Wonder why -- other comments are also gone.
The film is based on a decision-theory game called The Prisoners' Dilemma, in which loyalties between people for lies about guilt/crimes have various payoff schemes. I thought the set-up was apt: people are often crafty, cynical, and not to be trusted, even though the simplest and safest solution would be to tell the truth. Among the people I know, those who did not like the film were people who do not like to consider the unexpected destructive consequences of their actions.
It isn't a thriller with shoot-to-kill action, but it is just as lethal.
How does the prisoners' dilemma fit into this?
Doing the wrong thing leaves you better off than the person who does the right thing - that's the basic prisoners' dilemma, but how does it apply here? What's the "wrong thing" someone would do, given that if any of the three characters did the "right thing" (i.e., fess up), they'd all go down?
Sounds interesting, as does a lot of game theory to a layperson like me, but I can't quite see the connection.
But see in this case, they thought they would have gone down but they never would have because the guy they thought they accidentally killed never died.
shareThat's nothing to do with the Prisoner's Dilemma though.
The point of the Prisoner's Dilemma is this:
(A) if everyone does the right thing, everyone winds up OK or at least equally well off
(B) if everyone does the wrong thing, everyone winds up OK or at least equally well off
(C) if you do the right thing and the other guy does the wrong thing, you lose big time.
(D) if you do the wrong thing and the other guy does the right thing, you win the prize.
"Return to Paradise" is a much more clear application of the Dilemma.