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What the Hell was this movie about?


I feel like this is the kind of movie that should have affected me to my core, because its substance is more than what meets the eye. But, for the life of me, I can't figure out what that "more" is.

Here's what I've been able to put together so far:

1. There's serious risk inherent in relationships built on superficial bases and "blind" love.

That's it. But, it still doesn't explain the chronological hodgepodge that was the last 30 minutes or so (or maybe it does and I don't see it?). It also doesn't take his "widower" status into account. Does the message involve a warning about moving on after the untimely end of a first marriage? I don't see any stigma surrounding that behavior in the West (certainly not in the States), but maybe such a stigma exists in Japan?

The lead actress and director both indicated that it should make men fear women. That made me think of Teeth. But, Aoyama seemed like a good guy, so it didn't seem like "just punishment" was part of this movie's message. Another thing that occurred to me is that it might warn us that people's most serious and destructive issues lie so far beneath their surfaces that audition-style socializing (using superficial or shallow personal cues to form the basis of "love") couldn't possibly reveal them.

Please, somebody respond with their take on what this movie was about. It can't just be about an unlucky guy who gets tortured by a psycho with a rocky past.

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I think all of the things you mentioned are possible. In my opinion, this ambiguity is what makes it a great film.

I just saw it for the first time, when it accidentally ended up in my Netflix Q, and I'm sure glad that it did. I might never send it back!

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the psychological mysteries of two strangers coming together and all the burden in the subconscious of the mind...

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+1

I think this sums it up most excellently.


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At it's core, yes, it's a movie about an unlucky guy tortured by a psycho woman. Miike himself has said how he wanted to scare people and nothing more. That said, there are several themes going on in the story. The story is rich in details and it can be read in many ways. So i say take whatever resonated stronger with you. As for me, i do see this as a sort of critique to social forms, not just in Japan but in other places. Aoyama ges warned by his friend several times that he is getting too carried away with a person he barely knows. His own expectations got the best of him, and when he started to actually realize and understand what was going on it was too late.

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If Miike said that then any attempts pin down the underlying themes of the film would really be psychoanalysis of the director, which is fun for *beep* and gigges and film study but of little use to shedding light on the actual plot.

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Actually, it has a lot to say about gender relationships, specifically in Japan.

You people aren't Santa. You're not even robots! How dare you lie in front of Jesus.

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> Actually, it has a lot to say about gender relationships, specifically in Japan.

I think that's a serious impediment to my understanding what was going on. I have no clue how much of this movie makes sense in its own culture but leaves me totally in the dark and how much of it is 'universal' but is just the director's own neurotic fantasy.

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When I first watched this I felt the same way as you but there is an interesting thread that has some great theories. Check out BalsaDragon's posts - I found them insightful.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/board/nest/124678005

'Forget about it.'

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I thought everything was in the father's head. Which explains the "Dad? are you alright?!" line. The son walked in to find his father on the floor, in one piece, but still needing medical attention from a heart attack or overdose or something of the sort.

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It's pretty similar to Stephen King's Misery

"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left."

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