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Jokerz And The Jokers Remains.

posted 14 years ago by ZAROVE
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Only indirectly related, but in another thread they mentioned that after this film was made, they showed the Jokerz gang using the Jokers remains as part of an initiation ceremony. I want to know how this started? Isnt this a bit of a plot hole? How is this possible?

What I mean is simple.

When the Joker died, only three people witnessed it. Batman, Batgirl, and Tim Drake. They called Commissioner Gordon who helped bury the body under the old Archam Asylum. The only other person who may have known where the Body was placed was Harley Quinn. Of course the Joker Clone consciousness would know as well.

Presumably the Jokerz Gang had been using the Remains the whole time. Well, how did they know where the body was? Did Harley tell them? Or did the Jokerz gang form without this initiation, only to have the body's location divulged by the Joker clone later?

Also, if they knew where the body was, surly they knew he was dead. Why then believe the Joker clone when he came back claiming to be the Original? (Unless of course they didn't use the remains until after ROTJ)

Just curious how they even knew where the body was.

[–] tankfisher88 14 years ago

It could be possible the remains were a fake.

[–] DarklordRB 14 years ago

When I first saw those remains I thought they were the remains of a new to be joker pledge who failed the ceremony or if the cermony was deadley and few survive it. At least that's what I thought.

[–] RIPLucas 13 years ago

I think they just stumbled upon the remains. I mean the old Arkham Asylum grounds were probably a place these guys hung out in, and I wouldn't be surprised if rumors of the Joker's remains being there were spread once he vanished from sight.