Good beginning, lousy ending


All in all, it's one of the less disappointing modern Disney films -- up until the midpoint, when Roarke does his heel turn.

Up till that point, it was quite interesting. The campfire backstory chat was way too long, but there was good material otherwise.

Milo, the lead character, was very sympathetic and had a fine introduction. The premise of the plot, with the book and map and all, was very Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but not too slavishly a copy.

The native princess was fascinating and fairly attractive. The budding romance between Milo and the princess was very engaging.

The character animation was a bit blocky, but not as bad as in some other modern Disney films.

The design of Atlantis was breathtaking.

However, after the midpoint, when the bad guys do their betrayal, everything becomes pretty awful pretty quickly.

Of COURSE the two white mercenaries, Roarke and the blonde, are the "evil" ones, while the ethnic characters turn out to be good. Typical political correctness.

The metaphysics with the power source and the gems was very murky, something vaguely spiritual and vaguely eco, but not at all compelling.

Turning the princess into the conduit of the power removed the most interesting character apart from Milo from the plot for a good chunk of the action, right when we wanted to see more of her.

The entire action sequence was standard Hollywood fare and actually kind of routine. No surprises in it at all.

Learning more about Atlantis would have been far more interesting than what we did get. And, for that matter, seeing more of the Milo/princess romance.

Ultimately, a great beginning let down by a very poor latter half, or at least a poor third act, depending on where you place the point of the Roarke heel turn, time wise.

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Of COURSE the two white mercenaries, Roarke and the blonde, are the "evil" ones, while the ethnic characters turn out to be good. Typical political correctness.


i think its funny that you mention "political correctness". The whole idea that it took a white guy to figure out the Atlanteans own culture and save them is more of an offense. The fact that a white nerd essentially becomes king of an ancient civilization just for being "so smart" is also more offensive than having white mercenaries be evil.

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I never even noticed that politically correct move, but you're entirely right. (How much more fitting it is, then, that Helga, the blonde, is apparently also German. Oooh, those evil Germans!)

However, I never really liked Kida as a character. I just don't get her. We know very little about her except she's curious (Disney staple trait), brave (Disney staple trait), and tough (Disney staple trait for modern heroines). I thought she was boring, although her movie is great and her culture is very interesting and she has one of the best Disney guys (which is another thing- obviously Milo thinks she's attractive and interesting, but what is it she likes about him? We never really find out).

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(How much more fitting it is, then, that Helga, the blonde, is apparently also German. Oooh, those evil Germans!)

Yes. As if American films don't have a habit of stereotyping other groups, and portraying them as being villainous bad guys. Like Native Americans, Russians, Italians, Japanese, or Arabians for instance.

But no. Hollywood is out to get Western Europeans. Despite the fact that Hollywood is run by mostly white and/or Jewish people, and has many movies in which Europeans are portrayed in a positive light.

Disney has Snow White, a German princess, as well as many good blonde characters (Aurora, Elsa, Alice being some of the most popular). But they do one movie in which a German is a bad guy, and that makes them "politically correct?" What about the fact the black doctor, the Italian and the Latino girl were about to contribute to the downfall of a civilization for a minute there? They were in it for the money, too.

You guys need to watch old TV. Those old John Wayne-western type movies, in which Native Americans were portrayed as one dimensional savages. Rocky and Bullwinkle, in which the bad guys were Russian spies. Looney Tunes and Popeye, in which Japanese are shown as slant eyed caricatures. That's far worse than Helga- at least she interested me (for as mediocre as this movie was).

Idk. If I were German, I would be happy to see Germans portrayed as good or bad guys. But I am partly Spanish, and one of the few notable Spaniards I see on TV is Antonio Banderas.
If Helga were from Spain instead, I wouldn't be offended that she is a "villain." I would be happy that Disney likes to include characters of different countries.

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Of COURSE the two white mercenaries, Roarke and the blonde, are the "evil" ones, while the ethnic characters turn out to be good. Typical political correctness

Everyone was part of the evil plan not just them two. After the they were about to leave and each of the other crew members stayed, the cook and the sonar lady were white and both stayed.
The metaphysics with the power source and the gems was very murky, something vaguely spiritual and vaguely eco, but not at all compelling.

They never went in-depth of how the Holy Grail worked or how the Flux capacitor could make time travel possible.
Turning the princess into the conduit of the power removed the most interesting character apart from Milo from the plot for a good chunk of the action, right when we wanted to see more of her.

The fact the she was only way to protect Atlantis from outside danger isn't interesting? I don't think the romance was the main part of the film.
The entire action sequence was standard Hollywood fare and actually kind of routine

Standard Hollywood fare?


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I thought it was pretty surprising and refreshing that Helga didn't turn good/redeem herself and did pay the price. But I did think that Kida turning into crystal and then not doing anything until the very end was pretty boring.

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That's because they NEVER give ANY of the characters anything more then BLAND BORING CHARACTICS(Femme Fatlel)then randomly "henchwoman"?????!!.

Helga Sinclair could have been written with the idea of being an Archaeologist herself whose really beautiful and could handle impossible odds because her intellect. Also she wouldn't have been randomly taken out of the movie(SHE ISN'T DEAD). There is no price to pay when one of there OWN characters simply vanish into thin air after saying her "action" one liner!!!!!!

Heck in the first act at very least, Helga is pretty darn heroic which again why once the second act begins in Atlantis was FORCED and really not need(they shouldn't have made both her and the captain even as greedy)which points to an uneven tone and if any there were trying again with COPYING CLAYTON and the story suffered for it.

She did redeem herself with just shooting down the balloon with the captain but other then that, she just disappears and isn't even in the volcano and the movie just stupidly forgets she even existed!???!????



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Absolutely agree with the O.P.

Could have been a decent film, but the political correctness ruins it. As usual, for Disney of this era.

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I know a lot of people seem to think the movie takes a downward spin once Rourke's betrayal happens, but I personally disagree.

It's obvious from the beginning that, although the entire crew (including the minorities) were in it for the money, yet Rourke was the only one willing to really do whatever it took to get the biggest paycheck.

Helga, who's appears to be of German descent, actually says to Rourke "Rourke, there weren't supposed to be people here. This changes everything," to which Rourke replies "This changes nothing. If anything, this suggests that even Helga would've been willing to reconsider wiping out the Atlantians. Except she's just Rourke's Number #2, and Rourke never changed his mind.

The movie is hardly "politically correct." The crew of specialists, despite ultimately siding with Milo Thatch, were initially willing to help Rourke and were well aware of Rourke's plans before the mission even began.

As for "the white guy" Milo being the only one who can understand the ancient Atlantian language/symbols, keep in mind when the Europeans first came to Egypt, the native Egyptians didn't know how to decipher the ancient hieroglyphics either.

The whole film is set before the outbreak of World War I when numerous European countries maintained colonies (America had "territories"), some like the Belgian Congo containing numerous examples of cruelty towards the natives in order to access their natural resources. Rourke turning into a b@st@rd wasn't meant to be some plot twist, anyone could tell it was coming a mile away. The point is Rourke willing to sacrifice the Atlantians for the greatest technological discovery ever is a strong, anti-imperialism/anti-colonialism message.

Think about it: all the soldiers wear gas masks, use machine guns, airplanes, submarines; weapons that first saw widespread use in World War I. Rourke represents the many people who were willing to use these new weapons against people he deemed "inferior." That's not necessarily being politically correct as it is historically accurate.

Can't be too careful with all those weirdos running around.

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The point is Rourke willing to sacrifice the Atlantians for the greatest technological discovery ever is a strong, anti-imperialism/anti-colonialism message.

Your post is a mass of contradictions, but let's the take the most obvious one: what you've just written simply confirms the movie to comprise blatant political correctness. "Evil whites & exploited ethnic natives" is the hoariest of all tropes of politically-correct propaganda.

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This is still the most HEARTLESS animated movie to come out of Disney or really anything even related to ATLANTIS in general.

About half of there crew is DEAD! and this random captain still wants to go through with evil!!!??plan about stealing never explained crystal thing and.........?

Make wisecracks(which was other thing that bugged me and enforced the heartless nature even more),say what you will about TREASURE PLANET and TARZAN at least they give there villains some excuse for the how and why.

The movie's plot would alot better had they NOT gone with "his crew members's are villains" which also just sucks

Here it become(to me anyways)something out of the blue and the fact that they had force Helga to be "good" again by the infamous "nothing personal" scene was another hard thing for me to take from this movie(funny enough that the early pre production script had was make her the main character's love interest possibly along the lines of Marion from RAIDERS then...what ended up in the rushed film).And i liked her when they were treating her as one of the good guys and then that heel face turn happened and she been on the minor DISNEY villain list ever since(its still feels wrong to me)

That's wrong to KILL off(or not)the movie's original one for the vague princess that ended up replacing her.

See what i mean by heartless

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