Lip Synced?


I was watching the series on DVD at a friends house last night and it seemed to me that some of the performances in the 80's were lip synched, can anyone confirm this?

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I worked for The Tremblers as their sound tech/road dog and we
played MS in about 1982 along with LaToya Jackson. We did everything
live, no lip syncing, and I also know that LaToya was recorded live.
Some other bands that I've worked with over the years also did the
MS, and they sang live as well. One of the guys in the Tremblers
also played for Olivia Newton John and her performance was also
live. To be honest, the way the show was produced, there was NO
time for acts to fool around trying to get lip sync worked out.
You went in and the act might get a soundcheck, then back in
about an hour later and you'd get rushed on stage, play, then
get the heck out while they recorded the other acts for that
show. It was a pretty cool show to work, I'd get to spend the
day as I'd have to get the band gear loaded in and setup while
they built the sets, setup cameras, lighting, etc. They shared
Green Rooms with The Tonight Show, so there were always lots
of interesting folks walking around the back halls...

d.

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Having been to many concerts in my lifetime, I can tell the difference by live or memorex.
You are right. 1979 and 1980 have some.
Amii Stewart, Knock on Wood.
Journey, Lovin Touchin Sqeezin.
The Baby's, Everytime I Think of You.
Hall and Oates, Kiss on My List.
Olivia Newton John, Magic.
Robbie Dupree, Steal Away.
Brothers Johnson, Stomp.
Joan Armatrading, Me Myself I.


Anne Murray, Danny's Song
Ambrosia's, How Much I Feel
on other editions were lip synced.
The artist either are playing when the music stops, or they stop while the music is still playing. Dead give away.

Watching those made me think I was watching Bandstand or Solid Gold.

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Just watched the Amii Stewart clip - and by that time, at least the American crews were picking up and using BBC-style camerawork. I remember the earlier NBC programmes that have been aired on BBC4 recently.. but I see how staid they looked compared to the Beeb's style...

then again - I've always had Top Of The Pops and Old Grey Whistle Test as my baselines...

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I don't remember any lip synching when I watched.There might have been toward the end of its run.I quit watching when that obnoxious pinko Helen Reddy was made permanent host.

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If you watch clips on You Tube you can tell that some are lip synched but it is few and towards the end of the series. There is a Journey one that is particularly bad.

For the most part, much more than other music shows the Midnight Special was live.

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This is embarrassing to say the least. I got the 9-disc DVD set and watched all of them only to learn almost 50% of the performances were lip-synched. Yes the musicians and instruments were real however all the mic's were cut and performers were lip synching and pretending to play to a music track. Obviously the slip-up from Journey's Steve Perry was a major goof as he is still singing but his mic is down near the floor. Then on the Commodores with Lionel Richie, he is playing the piano when he does an embellishment for real but it doesn't match the track playing, for that matter he did an okay job of mouthing the words but his lips did not match the syllables or emotions. And for most of the big groups, nearly all of them are pretend playing and singing. For one black group WAR with all the guitars, I'm listening to the music doing one thing and their fingers upon the fret boards were moving around real fast but staying in the same fret though the song changed key, they didn't. For the performers who were "live" I learned something I've always suspected, most of these so-called performers can't sing, can't sing in pitch or hold a tune. REO Speedwagon's lead man was guilty of this, as was The Baby's John Waite. One of the "live" performers who really shocked me was Minnie Riperton in that she hit some awesome falsetto notes that I believe to be the highest pitch ever made by a human voice. Mariah Carey has tried but Minnie wins the award hands down with this one. Dog's in Japan were beggin' her to quit singing because it hurt their ears. Now that's funny even if I say so myself. Truth is, as is the case today with singers abusing AUTO-TUNE, so did singers from back in decades of long ago. Real singers like John Denver and Mama Cass Elliot are far and few in between. Most singers only sound good on the radio because some sound engineer in the studio doctored up the vocals so they could sell some records. Even in the music business, everyone is an actor. Guy's like Barry Manilow for example are the real deal which is why they are still in business some 40 plus years later. But I have to say the one that upset me the most was Lionel Richie as I expected more from him than just lip service. Finally a high-five goes out to Eric Carmen in All By Myself as he is an accomplished pianist and decent singer and I applaud his "live" performance as he did an excellent job. The difficulty he showed in his facial expressions demonstrate how difficult reaching certain notes really is. For that matter the REO Speedwagon lead singer also showed how difficult it is reaching for those high notes as he also had trouble but what a performer and what a performance.

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I have it and have only seen some of it so far, but the 70s has lip syncing, too, like Nick Gilder/Hot Child In the City. The rest I've seen so far was live, but that was only 5% of the DVDs.

BTW, the first responder to this post is total nonsense, making it sound like it is less effort to set up and play live than to lip sync it!

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