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this is a terrible film.



i could not believe how bad this film was. The plot was nonsensical and everyone of the actors, who are normally great to watch and convincing performers just swear far too much to sound naturalistic. Avoid this film even jackson is bad in this-I know it is hard to believe

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I totally agree with you. The acting was absolutly terrible and the plot was so stupid. This is for sure one of the worst movies of the year with Ballistic.

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You are all 'vroedies'
This is the best movie which made me laugh since the Naked Gun series ...

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This was a hilarious movie. I laughed my ass off. I think you have to be deficient in some way not to get it.

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This is a guilty Pleasure, for what it was, it was funny. If this was supposed to be a serious film, I'd say no good, but it had a tongue-in-cheek quality that kept me laughing. I can see the similarities between this an Lock, Stock etc., but that was OK. The scene with the skinheads was hilarious though.

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Yeah, what ARE you talking about. The plot is not the point in this damn movie. And the british folks I know certainly swear at least this much. It was a lark. Give it a break for chr**t's sake.

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I AM A BRITISH FOLK.And while some people do swear that much, in terms of this film I think they are just papering over the general flaws in the script -and im not against swearing in films or anything like that, it just didn't work here but hey we are untitled to our opinions

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more Man U fans should've been beaten up. The Liverpool stadium bit was cool...and, uh...yeah. Liverpool FC is why I saw it, there wasn't much else there of any merit though.

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The Directing wasn't bad, the acting wasn't bad. It was the script.

Obviously someone in Hollywood said "hey..movies like "Snatch" and "Boondock saints" are getting a cult following, maybe we should make one too!"

The Script was HORRIBLE. They tried to put as much "cruel humor" as possible without thinking of when it works or doesn't. For example: Caryle trying to close the trunk with the chemist's fingers in the way. This is just screaming: "hey...this kind of gag worked in Snatch! We have to do this!"

I love Meatloaf, he was excellent in Fight Club, but this was not his role, he couldn't be "scary" enough.

Jackson was pretty good, nothing special.

If they would have had Guy Ritchie or someone who isn't just after money write the script: Same plot, same actors, this could have been one of the best of the year.

Grade: D+

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Agreed.

Someone said: "hey let's have that English guy from the Full Monty, and also the funny English dude from the Replacements, and also the big black dude from Snatch and it would be cute if they were swearing like all these English do, especially with their saying 'bloody this' and 'bloody that' all the time."

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ummm robert Carlyle is scottish. and Rhys Ifans (from the replacements) is Welsh, in fact they even tell you that in the damn movie. and the big black guy is named Abe and if you ever go to englas you will find that they swear all the time and they do say Bloody all the time.

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Most Americans are too stupid to know the difference between Scottish, English and Welsh people anyway. And I don't know anyone who says 'bloody' all the time. That's just an Americanised view of the British.

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What the frick? Wasn't this written by a couple of guys from Liverpool or something? That's what I heard. I've never been to the UK or anything, but I liked the movie a bunch. The dialogue's obviously been slated toward Americans, but whatever, all movies are made for Americans nowadays and at least the accents weren't as annoying as those idiotic ones in the Lord of the Rings. No one's saying it's a great movie, but it's not terrible and it's fun to watch. Especially after I just watched Dancer in the Dark. Holy crap, did that leave a stain on the soul. In a bad, don't anyone watch that movie kind of way. Not the way every nerd internet reviewer thinks of it.

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Thought the film was great. Especially the laxative bit.
The point of the film wasn't to be artsy or thought-provoking. If you want a film to tug at your heart, watch Steel Magnolias. If you want a true cinematic masterpiece, watch Schindler's List. But if you want to just kick back and have a few laughs at other people's expense and let the old brain rest for a while, watch this film.
It certainly wasn't the greatest film ever, but it still made me laugh.

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The film was brilliant. Don't analyse it in such detail when its nothing but a gangster comedy film. Seriously analysing a drama film about war is OK but not on a Comedy film. I agree with ItemCol16527. Its a laugh and not a work of art.

Yes English people do swear alot. You do hear words like "Bloody" and "Wanker" alot but they are typical English Swear words that we use here in the UK. I loved it in the airport when this happened:

SKINHEAD: ...Just the wanker I wanted to deal with.

FELIX: Deal with this (elbows Skinhead in the face)

I loved the film and don't care what anyone else thinks.

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I like most films but I have a hate for this film that is rarely matched. Samuel L. jackson should stab his script writers in the face with a soldering iron for putting him in a movie with Meatloaf and a terrible script such as this.

I would rather watch battlefield earth.

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I like most films but I have a hate for this film that is rarely matched. Samuel L. jackson should stab his script writers in the face with a soldering iron for putting him in a movie with Meatloaf and a terrible script such as this. I would rather watch battlefield earth.


So, you prefer Vincent Vega over Jules Winfield?

FYI, Samuel L. Jackson was credited as Executive Producer for this, so if anything he should be angry at himself. Forget the soldering (pronounced SODDERING) iron, break out the 9 iron (like w/ the skinheads).

I actually enjoyed this film, though I wish Samuel L. Jackson's character would've eaten SOMETHING, I watched him toss the fish & the black pudding and completely disregard the chicken. Don't tell me he's a veggie 'cause he had a burger in Pulp Fiction (although that was 10 years ago).

Otherwise a cool film. I thought while watching it, take "Killing Zoe" and have it directed by Guy Ritchie. Maybe that's a little far-fetched?

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WARNING: Spoilers.

Oh, come one. "Fag?" "No, muthaf***a!" You can't argue with comedy like that. Okay, so maybe there is some ridiculousness with regard to stupid henchmen, people getting accidentally wacked, criminals who will do anything for football tickets (what?) and a deafmute chemist who can't recognize a placebo. All those things, I think, fall under the category "comic wackiness." Overall, Formula51 is funny and enjoyable, and Samuel L. is too cool for school no matter what he's in or how silly his outfit is. I'm not saying I'm gonna buy it, but I do think it's getting an undeserved bad rap, and I *don't* think that this movie is intended as a realistic portrayal of the organized crime world. So, y'know, just don't expect it to be.

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This film is class

I do have a biast opinion coz im from Liverpool but any film that has scousers takin the piss out of mancs has gotta be sound hasnt it.

Robert Carlyle done a good scouse accent along wiv Rhys Ifans.

notapepper your comment about tickets for the match. People would sell their mothers to get tickets to that game.

Oh and to you americans yeah we do swear alot an we dont sound like the queen like most of u think we do

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Say what you like about Mancs, and we will do likewise...

But when it comes down to it, I'd stand shoulder to shoulder with a scouser against the soft southern pansies :D

p.s.

What do you say to a scouser in a suit?

Will the defendant please rise?



What do you say to a scouser on a bike?

STOP THIEF!

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A: The bride.






I don't pretend to know what you want, but I offer love...

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First off everyone likes vulgarity and secondly there isn't any need to mention a second point because the first one says it all and third of all the second point saying how there isn't any need for a second point doesn't count as a second point...

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I just saw this film this morining and it has to be the worst movie that had the potential to be a good movie that I have seen in a long time. From the nonensential plot ( so the drug was a fake?), to the terrible overdone performance by Jackson( So why is he wearing a kilt, and why does everyone in England call it a dress) to the stupid characters and the dumb style over substance approach to the story. This movie is terrible. And why the heck is Emily Mortimor in this anyway?

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Well it made me laugh

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