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Oh, that awful horror-comedy thing....


This is one of those let’s-have-some-fun-making-shots-with-a-camera movies that nobody ever seriously believed would be shown to a greater public, at least I can not imagine.
But it did and now we are burdoned with a legacy we don’t really need nor want because it is neither good nor extremely bad, it simpy IS NOT, it sinks into that big black hole of forgetting never to appear again, at least I hope…

What do people like in horror/comedy combinations? It is like mixing salt and sugar, what comes up is undigestable, nauseating.
Horror is all about building up tension and comedy is all about breaking down tension, that does not go together so don’t try it, it simply won’t work.
Then why are they still trying that over and over again? Of course you can hide lack of quality by using cheap jokes, but it takes a master to mix those two in a sensible way, I can not come up with an example right now, let that speak for itself.

I found one! Braindead by Peter Jackson.

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I never seen Brain Dead, so I can't comment on it. I however agree with you totally about horror, & comedy not working together. To me, a horror movie should have a profound affect on you. It should make you want to check your house before going to bed. Make you walk out of the way at night just to keep from having to stroll past a wooded area. Make your heart sink a little when you see a group drunks staggering down the road in a remote area (zombie movies).
This has all happened to me in my youth because of horror movies that where not trying to inject commedy. There are a few movies that I can think of where comedy did not ruin the expierence. The original Dawn of the Dead, and the first two Return of the Living Dead movies are a good example. However, I can look at the poster art for The Dead Hate the Living, and see this movie blows. Hell, even the title says it all.

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That is the general idea I have about horror, however, Braindead is not really horror in the sense that you'd want to check what's underneath your bed after seeing it (well, so to speak) There aren't many movies that cause that effect anymore, maybe that's how it goes when you come of age, a pity though. I remember how e.g. the Birds (Hitchcock) had that effect on me in the early 60's, I think because it was about something that might happen (picture yourself a little boy in his dark room). Zombies don’t come around, even I could tell that as a child, so Night of the Living Dead was good but not one of the Look-What’s-Underneath-My-Bed type of movies. Real horror has to have a link with reality, e.g. about what real people can do to other people (Halloween, Silence of the Lambs, Saw) or events that traumatize someone into distorting reality (The Shining, Jacob’s ladder, Trauma) or with a spiritual mysticism like movies from Eastern Asia (The Ring, The Eye, The Grudge)
But generally speaking it requires an open mind like children have for horror to take its effect, it’s sad we use to loose that ability over the years.

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Two quotes from you, gerfalcon...

"Horror is all about building up tension and comedy is all about breaking down tension, that does not go together so don’t try it, it simply won’t work. "

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"...it takes a master to mix those two in a sensible way, I can not come up with an example right now, let that speak for itself. I found one! Braindead by Peter Jackson."

Ok, first off, I LOVE Peter Jackson. But I did not, and have never encountered ANYONE, in real life OR THE INTERNET, that found Braindead/Dead Alive to be frightening, scary or indeed, tense. The more horrific elements presented in the film were ALL played for gross out laughs.

It's incredibly fashionable, especially on this site, to cite Brain Dead as some sort of masterpiece in marrying horror and comedy. I have never understould this, as while it is a wonderfully humourous movie, there are no real 'scares' in the film and many times I have read Peter Jackson interviews where his thoughts on this, and his prevous two films, are that they are SILLY and not to be taken seriously.

Horror and Comedy have been mixed very well before. Some films have decided to tread the line leaning more toward the horror or some huge unfolding story with humourous asides in the film and others have put us in the same position as their respective antagonists, laughing along with them at the protagonist.

EVIL DEAD 2 is a classic mix of surrealistic nightmare imagery and taking the violence to it's logical, slapstick conclusion.

George A. Romero's DAWN OF THE DEAD has a few comedic highlights among it's surreal visions of zombies wandering a shoppign mall.

Re-Animator is a classic, witty adaptation of a H.P. Lovecraft story, where the humour is nearly all within dialogue - the characters do not know they are being funny, like say, SCREAM - yet the moral drive of the film (to play God and resurrect the dead) is handled with gentle respect.

I should also note, Lloyd Kaufman's TOXIC AVENGER was also greatly influencial on the horror/comedy hybrids coming out in the nineteen eighties; it's own monster cartoonily (but brutally) dismembering the true monster of the era (evil capitalist governing bodys). It's a warning disguised as a b-movie and it's enduring legacy is testament, at the very least, to it's unique taste - a cocktail of gore and comedy.

David Lynch's Blue Velvet and Eraserhead are also worth mentioning, for being both tremendously effective horror films (more in the atmospheric and metaphorical sense rather than literal "BOO!" scares) while maintaining an off-beat deadpan cynicism.

And the final film I will mention for the moment is Dan O'Bannon's Return of the Living Dead, which also brilliantly marriend the genres.

Anyway, hope that suggested a new perspective to you

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i love horror comedies and theres also undead,dead and breakfast and cabin fever although cabin fever isnt that good both others are excellent

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"i love horror comedies and theres also undead,dead and breakfast and cabin fever although cabin fever isnt that good both others are excellent"

Cabin Fever isn't that good but Dead and Breakfast is excellent? Couldn't disagree more with that one.

As far as this horror-comedy thing goes, there are plenty who succeed quite well at it. I think Joe Dante's earlier films are good examples, particularly the stuff written by John Sayles. Like any film, it just comes down to knowing how to balance everything out. Humor is great in horror films when it's either used to relax the crowd after a very tense situation or lore them into a false sense of security. I don't care for a lot of the modern day self-aware parodying of genre films within genre films. They often go overboard in making fun of their own premise to the point that they never end up being scary.

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yep and its a very bad one as well



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Basically, there is no such thing as a "scary" horror movie. Every horror film I have ever seen has made me laugh because there is no possible way that any of them could ever happen. I'm a huge horror film fan but I must admit, horror movies are plain stupid. The horror/comedy genre is great because the makers realize how stupid their film is. Honestly, it's my favorite genre. Other great examples are: Santa's Slay, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, Body Melt, Black Sheep, Gory, Gory, Hallelujah, Tokyo Gore Police, Tokyo Zombie, Night of the Living Dorks, and Delicatessen to name a few. Another great genre is the horror/musical/comedy such as the Big Meat Eater and Cannibal! the Musical.

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I used to share a similar opinion of horror/comedy films but after seeing some that are quite good (including this one) I have grown to like them. I saw Shaun of the Dead when it first came out in the states and I didnt care for it but now I think it is a great movie.

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I thought most horror had some comedy in it..well I laughed during most of them anyway.. <shrug> maybe i'm just sick, or easily entertained.

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