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Truth, Justice, and the Hypocritical Way


I'm hardpressed to see how anyone could take this show and its supposed lessons seriously, just as I'm sure the families that do love it wonder how anyone couldn't. But how do even they explain stuff like this?

"Back to School"
In his secret identity, Bibleman vehemently tells the villain people don't want Bibleman, they want God and His Word. So...why is this show even made, if people don't want Bibleman? Why not just video record Bible studies and release those, and have a traveling sermon lecture? Imagine how many action figures and computer games that'd sell!

“Six Lies of the Fibbler”
Bibleman shows that he has the power to repel the villains he fights by invoking the name of Jesus Christ. He never, ever uses that ability again, not even later in the same episode. What sense does that make?

“Defeating the Shadow of Doubt”
The Bible says that if a wise man sees trouble coming, he avoids it. Yet when he’s in a dark basement and finds a suspicious box that’s already made one girl doubt her faith in God, Bibleman opens it right there and becomes a victim of the doubt weapon too. Guess the needs of the script are stronger than the teachings of God.

“The Incredible Force of Joy”
In this episode, which is extremely confusing and sloppy without bringing theology into it, Bibleman spies on and takes biological samples of a boy without his knowledge. How inspiring.

“The Fiendish Works of Dr. Fear”
Bibleman donates $10000 to an anti-drug campaign, and then starts the round of applause for this gift himself. ‘Nuff said.

"Conquering the Wrath of Rage"
This one's a gold mine. In a riveting scene, Bibleman and his brand new sidekick are outside the entrance to the bad guy's hideout, and Bibleman, paragon of virtue and model of living in God's way, tells his sidekick who has no weapons, armor or experience, to go in first. And after they enter the evil lair, they stand around for a while, listen to the villain explain his plan they pretty much already knew, and leave. Best of all, there's a bit where Bibleman and his sidekick hide in the bushes and spy on a bunch of ten-year-old boys. I'm supposed to let this guy teach my kids what to believe about something bigger than themselves?

“Breaking the Bonds of Disobedience”
We’re introduced to Biblegirl, who joins the team, gets her own nifty armor and everything, but NO WEAPONS. What were they thinking? Was she intended to cheerlead the boys? Did she have to earn them because she's a woman?

“Lead Us Not Into Temptation”
This one seriously makes no sense at all. Bibleman basically says that after you become a Christian, you have to avoid the people you knew before you converted or they’ll lead you back into sin (I love how Biblegirl flies off the handle when the other sidekick gave one of his old friends some computer help. Yeah, he‘s headed straight back to Sin City). Yet, the girl they help learn this lesson makes one of her old friends convert, so they can still be friends. Notice how Bibleman never tries that, even after the villains stop representing sins.

"Jesur Our Savior"
My favorite Bibleman moment. Our hero goes off to battle the most evil and powerful villain he's ever faced, all alone. And with no reason whatsoever for leaving his sidekicks behind, just because they wanted to do a cliffhanger episode. They only made three other episodes all about the value of teamwork and fellowship, after all. And doesn't the Bible say to turn the other cheek? When Bibleman is getting sassed out by a bunch of unruly townspeople when he says that beating the villain is up to God, not him, he gets up and leaves. Also great: if you watch closely in the last fight, there's a part where Bibleman is knocking the villain's shots away...toward his own sidekick. That's some "hero worth following" you got there, Pamplin.

"A Light in the Darkness"
And here we meet Bibleman's longest-used (and definitely lamest) enemy to date, the Wacky Protestor. What the heck does that name mean? That protesting, that not following the flock like a blind sheep isn't what God wants? And come to think of it, isn't Evangelism a PROTESTant religion? So isn't that a weird name for a guy who's supposed to represent its antithesis?

What's not to love?

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Many (but not all) Christians are so busy conforming in music and movies, as well as this trash, that they have completely lost sight of what their doctrine really means. Yes, they know how to quote the Bible through and through, but that is all these guys are doing. There is no real understanding or lessons, only idiocy.

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Well, I don't know, I do see some worthwhile lessons in Bibleman, but they are certainly not outweighed by the idiocy the show also heaps on, and as I pointed out the show's creators are happy to put them aside if that's what it takes to keep the show (I refuse to call it a "story") moving.

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When these lessons get mired in the attempts to make it all cool and hip like the thousands of other things in the world, it kind of loses it effect...hence the symlicity of the doctrine's teaching it's followers not to conform to the world around them. The show may try to say these things, yet is guilty of doing this exactly. Where is the "faith" that God's word is good enough without the excessive fluff?

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I totally agree. I've seen every Bibleman movie that exists, and it just makes my jaw drop how hard they try (and how miserably they fail) to make being a Christian look "cool," how they try to rope in the impressionable kids with the light saber battles and high tech gizmos the good guys use. Because if a kid joins the faith because he sees a guy use a light saber or do a music video, that's a commitment that'll last the rest of his life.

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With the amount of coke that ol' Willy Aames put up his nose in the 80's I'm suprised that he can form a complete sentence, much less put together a cohesive argument for Fundamentalist Christianity.

He was great in "Zapped", BTW.

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Ture about the coke. But you know, even if I could never agree with how Bibleman taught his lessons, at least Willie brought plenty of energy to the series. I wouldn't be surprised if the franchise shriveled up and died with the new guy they got to play the part.

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THERE'S A NEW BIBLEMAN? That deserves its own thread! Man, on most issues i'm a classicist, and I fear change. But I'm willing to give a new Bibleman a chance if his deadpan delivery is as fresh as ol' Willie's. Hopefully the writers will use it as a chance to make some totally insane story loops that will knock me on my ass laughing. Here's hoping.

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Willie handed over his tights to a children's pastor two years ago. Seeing his stuff might require some financial outlay because I've never, ever seen TBN run "Fight for Faith," the one with the new guy in it. I wonder why not. Seriously.

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i honestly would prefer a movie with a REGULAR christian in it, ima christian (methodist if u will, ther the same thing) and im pretty much the same as anyone. its friggin hard for me, i know that, when a movie sets up what a christian "looks" like.

id much rather watch v for vendetta than Bibleman, i jus cant take it seriously, i prefer the study i go to weekly.


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Those are all excellent points. I think a lot of it comes from a complete ignorance of the superhero genre. It's obvious that the writers are trying to appeal to that audience, and don't really understand how superheroes work. But most of it is just stupid. Do you need to be a comic book writer to know that if you had a kid sidekick, you wouldn't send him in first with no weapons?

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And people wonder why others think this show is a bad influence.

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Cypher: [on Bibleman's new comic book] "Man, you look larger than life!"
Bibleman: "Yeah, I know. But that's the problem. These sketches draw attention to me instead of focusing on God. They should draw attention to Him. If I look too good, then that's bad, because people might get the wrong idea and think that I think I'm more important or something. I want to stay humble through this whole thing."

We get the point! You want us to think about God 24/7! Man, I just might have found a series all together more annoying than the whole 90 minutes of Batman & Robin.

"Jack's dead my friend...."

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