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This Friday on “God, the Devil and Bob” ep. 09: “Bob Gets Greedy”


AIRED: Jun 13, 2003

Bob finds the Devil's iPhone (no, not really, but its 2000 equivalent) which has sensitive information only God should have. As a result, Bob, as the title suggests, gets greedy. And Needy Devil gets needier, interferes, and makes things even more complicated!

STARRING:

The Usuals!

PLUS:

Alex Veadov
Guest Star

Michael Milhoan
Jack

Cam Clarke
ESPN Reporter / Pizza Guy

Jeff Doucette
Smeck

Chi McBride
Mike

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So bob gets to play Biff Tannen with his sports almanac from the future...The Devil set him up good. "So your saying excepting gambling tips from the Devil could have a down side?" lol Thought that was funny. The Devil set his sights on Donna and she waltzes right in. Money will seduce a person....It looked like Donna's true nature came out in this one. God didn't have much of a function here except to tell bob he would have to pay the piper at some point.

It was nice to see Bob not want anything to happen to his wife and went to great lengths to save her. I am not sure she would have done the same for him, the face she made to the priest was a good one though.....

All in all I liked this episode pretty good I'll give it 7 palm pilots on the GDB scale.

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So what is this game, anyhow?
I don't know but the guys in the red rubber hats are going to win.

That Palm Pilot was The Devil's best work yet. You think he's going after Bob and the big bet with God, but it's really Donna he's after. Caring for him with the measles must have made some kind of impression.

Then again, The Devil might end up with her anyhow.

Gotta admire the lengths to which Bob will go for the woman he loves.

So Smeck's gay for Satan. Funny joke about the ancient Greek comparison. Ancient historical fact.

I give this one 8 baseballs thrown at the wrong target.

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I'd've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

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Random details I loved:
- The illustration of Bob's thought process. Basically he seems to have two working neurons only, and when they finally fire up...
- The way the Devil “loves” bureaucracy and shoves the clipboard down Smeck's throat.
- The money-making sports montage.
- So, brushing up on Donna's French was to go to Canada? So suburban middle-America (or something like that). They got me again!
- Nice twist, Bob had to save Donna's soul, not his own. I didn't expect that.
- Also unexpected was the way Bob saved Donna.
- The way Donna was a greedy sellout was hilarious, totally unexpected.

Random details I liked:
- Do some volunteer work? My father once came up to me with something like that, so I know how Bob feels. If fathers love volunteer work so much why don't THEY do it?
“You know, technically it's not charity if you're forcing me to do it.” - EXACTLY what I told (or thought of...) telling him! (And this only isn't in the “loved” section because of the painful memories.)
- I always thought Donna didn't really love Bob, and now, more than ever I have reasons to think that.
- Bob could end up rich, escape Hell, and all he had to give in exchange was Donna? Hmmm... sounds so tempting.
- Donna, going all Invasion of the Body Snatchers on Bob:
“He's up there! Take him out!”
But then, as it was pointed out last episode, they *continued* the one-liner.
“...take him outside...”
- Bob's reaction to his punishment:
“They are not even trying to hit the target!”

Random details I sort of liked:
- So the Devil is speaking *against* TV? What kind of world is that? And how could Bob learn something from it if he almost never watches it?
- “Let's all get Palm Pilots!” Wow, it's incredible how in some other distant era this dated reference would've fostered my craving for technology so much!
- So, in the end, Bob got all that money for free? The Devil needed a supposed final bet for the transaction to be complete? Bob got a lot from it for just a slap in the wrist.
- How can Bob be so stupid? You don't take “presents” from the Devil. They always come with a high price tag. The situation was so ridiculous, they actually made a good joke out of it.
“So what you're saying is, accepting gambling tips from the Devil could have a downside? Food for thought...”
- When I first read the episode description I thought it was God's Palm Pilot. I think that would've seemed less suspicious and safer. I wouldn't have taken something from the Devil out of fear, but maybe use something from God would be more tempting and offer fewer risks, and that would be a real challenge to put aside.
- So Bob makes all that illegal money and hides it from his wife? Not a smart move. Conveniently Andy found the stash. Too convenient, but they had to move the story along.
- Smeck, and drive-ins, and the ancient Greeks... I don't know what to think of that scene, as it challenges my religious and sexual sensitivities (ha, ha)... And Smeck was kind of growing on me, poor little fella.
- Golf carts, a ham... Canadians and their strange sports. Am I sensing some sort of criticism here? How can Americans say anything, really?
- It seems elbow rejuvenating was quite popular back in 2000.
- Donna's mercurial behavior was off-putting. She quickly bought the idea of wealth through gambling, then quickly fell for Bob's moralizing speech about values for the kids. At least she left Bob in prison for a week.

Random details I didn't like:
- First baseball, now hockey... Definitely Bob and I couldn't go watch sports together.
- Bob tries to bribe God? Now, that was just too forced, and stupid even for Bob's standards.

Grade
Excellent episode, really. Excellent jokes, story, everything. Considering the scope of the show I could hardly find a flaw in it. I think the only thing that sort of bothered me was Donna's bipolar personality, if she has one. She easily fell for the easy money, and was easily convinced to forget that. She shows clear signs of not loving Bob, but she inexplicably stays with him in a seemingly happy way. I give it 9 elbow-rejuvenating sessions.

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- First baseball, now hockey... Definitely Bob and I couldn't go watch sports together.


But Bob's already been established as a huge Red Wings fan. Referenced in the first and third eps.

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I'd've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

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by - bob-402-252005 on Sat Sep 29 2012 17:21:26
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But Bob's already been established as a huge Red Wings fan. Referenced in the first and third eps.

Yeah, except that I have no idea what Red Wings is... (OK, now I have some idea.) Believe it or not, there are some things concerning the American culture I'm totally ignorant about.

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Believe it or not, there are some things concerning the American culture I'm totally ignorant about.

Say it isn't so Mad....say it isn't so.

http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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by charmedwon666 18 hours ago (Sat Sep 29 2012 23:47:45)
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Believe it or not, there are some things concerning the American culture I'm totally ignorant about.

Say it isn't so Mad....say it isn't so.

Should I sense some sarcasm there? Anyway, I obviously phrased it incorrectly. Of course there are millions of little things I'm completely ignorant about, as far as American culture is concerned. But I do have a general operational knowledge of your culture that allows me to watch a movie, follow a TV show, have a conversation, and understand the jokes and references pretty well. However, when it comes to sports, degrees Fahrenheit, and Imperial measurements, I'm a total dunce.

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Well, I can think of a completely different "red wings" reference from biker culture, but I really don't think they would go there on a prime time, family oriented sit-com.

FWIW, I'm the sort of non-sports-fan type of guy who wouldn't have known what sport the Red Wings play without the uniform the Devil put onto Bob in the false office in Hell scene in the pilot. But from the context, it was obvious to me they were a sports team. So maybe guys get crazy over their favorite sports teams differently in the US than elsewhere.

Myself, I usually see guys go ape over football (Not the game we Americans call soccer and everyone else in the world calls football, but American football. A different game altogether.) and NASCAR stock car racing.

On a side note: http://www.xkcd.com/1107/

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I'd've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

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by - bob-402-252005 on Sun Sep 30 2012 04:53:32
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FWIW, I'm the sort of non-sports-fan type of guy who wouldn't have known what sport the Red Wings play without the uniform the Devil put onto Bob in the false office in Hell scene in the pilot.

Very observant of you. I didn't register that.

But from the context, it was obvious to me they were a sports team.

We don't need any special context to figure out Bob must be a sports fan, he being from a working-class cliché and all.

So maybe guys get crazy over their favorite sports teams differently in the US than elsewhere.

What makes you say that? Why would you think sports fans in the US are different than those anywhere else? Only the sports change, not the passion. Unfortunately I don't relate to any of the sports in the show.

Myself, I usually see guys go ape over football (Not the game we Americans call soccer and everyone else in the world calls football, but American football. A different game altogether.) and NASCAR stock car racing.

Here there's no need to say which sport people go crazy about. But whenever Brazil is winning in some other sport, it briefly becomes a fad. I mean, men's and women's volleyball, basketball, tennis, Formula 1...

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This Friday on “God, the Devil and Bob” ep. 09: “Bob Gets Greedy”

Well this one was a little better maybe they haven’t jump the shark yet. Or in this case simply just ran into it and got consumed. In my opinion this series never generated enough steam to ever have a chance to jump the shark. Bob spending so much time in the presence of God has started to rub off on him it took a while but the good is coming out in him. Glad to see him make the right decision. Now his wife needs some work once she got the taste of money it consumed her. It took Bob to do something drastic to save her from the devil arms. Would they really have had to forfeit the game for fan interference or would they just have arrested poor Bob? Not sure when this show ran but I guess it was before the iPhones took over the world. One day they will get me but I’m still holding back.

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Not sure when this show ran but I guess it was before the iPhones took over the world.


Actually, only the first three episodes ran on TV before Fox bowed to the pressure of a handful of screamingly vocal church people who didn't like the concept of the show.

But yeah, it was made when Palm Pilots were the new big thing in gadgets.

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I'd've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

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Well this one was a little better maybe they haven’t jump the shark yet. Or in this case simply just ran into it and got consumed. In my opinion this series never generated enough steam to ever have a chance to jump the shark.


You raise a good philosophical question about jumping the shark. The guy who originated the term defined it as the point at which you realize your favorite show has gone downhill and just isn't what it used to be. In that sense, I could never say that God, the Devil and Bob jumped the shark, because it was never my favorite show. But that would also be true of every show we've covered except The Time Tunnel, which really was my favorite in its original run when I was 12. But then, the original Jump the Shark website allowed you to pick various categories for when the show jumped, including "Day One". Clearly, you couldn't claim it to be your favorite show if you think it jumped on the first episode.

The criterion I use for shows I never really liked is that, if it's not very good, but has potential, I'll hold off calling a jump until I'm ready to give up hope that it'll hit stride and get better. And that's the case with this show. Never really liked it, but the writers did seem to be willing to try some format changes (essentially abandoning the "save humanity" bet, for example), so I had hope. Until last week. This week was definitely an improvement on last week's disaster, but I still don't think it's going anywhere.

Actually, only the first three episodes ran on TV before Fox bowed to the pressure of a handful of screamingly vocal church people who didn't like the concept of the show.


Well, that's the legend, but I rather doubt it. From what I've dug up, NBC (not Fox) never really promoted the show, and its ratings were described as "minuscule". And they dropped precipitously after the first episode. I think it's easier for the producers to blame someone else than to admit that they made a show that just wasn't good enough to cut it.

I asked my pastors if they were aware of an organized boycott or protest about the show--as pastors, they get a lot of mail about that kind of thing--and they were not aware of anything at all. In fact, they'd never even heard of the show. I think those who protest shows they don't like would like to believe they can get them taken off the air, but I don't think it's that easy. I do recall a very loud and organized protest against NYPD Blue when it debuted. The result: It lasted 11 seasons and won a shelf-full of awards. So much for clout.

One thing I did notice in my research is that just about every description of the show mentioned that it was cancelled after just a few episodes and drawing criticism from some religious groups, but I never found a single article that claimed it was cancelled because of that criticism. To say "cancelled after" is most definitely not the same thing as "cancelled because".

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by dtmuller 26 minutes ago (Sun Sep 30 2012 19:21:15)
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You raise a good philosophical question about jumping the shark. The guy who originated the term defined it as the point at which you realize your favorite show has gone downhill and just isn't what it used to be.

Yes, and I also thought it meant the moment when the show used some ridiculous stunt, so ridiculous that it lost all credibility. Something like that. That having been said, I'll appoint my ultimate shark-jumping moment in due time. You'll know exactly what I mean when it happens.

In fact I think this is a vital element for the mission of our little group. We've been neglecting the highlighting of such an important moment in the existence of a short-lived TV show. I think from now on we should leave that clearer. We owe that to future generations!

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Well, that's the legend, but I rather doubt it. From what I've dug up, NBC (not Fox) never really promoted the show, and its ratings were described as "minuscule". And they dropped precipitously after the first episode.


I couldn't remember which network, and said Fox because that's the corporate logo on the DVD.

I do specifically recall that exactly the first three episodes aired, though. I was more or less on fence about the show until the railroad crossing scene in the third ep. That scene sold me on the show and then that episode was the last I could get of it until I later found it out on DVD.

And the main appeal that drew me to the show in the first place was hearing all the right-wing church people go on the attack before it ever premiered. The thought of James Garner playing the voice of God was reason number 2 I had to check it out.

Perhaps I was mistakenly reading cause and effect into chronological coincidence, but I'm not certainly the only one to do so in this show's case.

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I'd've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

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Interesting that it was made in the CBS studios, broadcast on NBC, and distributed on DVD by Fox. I wonder what ABC was doing?

And the main appeal that drew me to the show in the first place was hearing all the right-wing church people go on the attack before it ever premiered.


One of the articles I found indicated that you're not alone in that. It indicated that the controversy actually got more people to watch at least the first episode. I suspect that's not uncommon.

The thought of James Garner playing the voice of God was reason number 2 I had to check it out.


In the end, I think Garner will turn out to be the best part of this show. An outstanding casting choice.

And I must throw in a clarification. In my previous post I wrote:
I think it's easier for the producers to blame someone else than to admit that they made a show that just wasn't good enough to cut it.
While I believe that to be true in general, I don't want to leave the impression that I think that happened here. That is, I've seen nothing to indicate that the producers, network, etc. actually tried to blame the show's failure on those critics or anyone else. I don't think they tried to avoid taking responsibility for it.

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