Michael Moore!!


Did you guys notice that Michael Moore is in this movie??? I watched the whole thing and didn't even recognize him...then I found out online. It's funny to watch him just acting out a role and not making any political statements or anything.

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He sure looks different without his trademark beard, that's for sure. I saw Numbers years ago, and until recently I didn't know that was Michael Moore! I watched this again recently and was wondering "is that Michael Moore" while watching it, thinking that guy looks similiar to him, and it wasn't until I checked the credits until I saw it was him.

Anyways, I thought he, along with everyone else in the cast, did a terrific job here. And I'm not saying this because I agree or disagree with his political opinions. That's entirely seperate, I just think he was really good in this movie for his part.



Lord Humungus rules the wasteland! Nothing can escape!

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Let me guess... you must be Republican. Your superior "family values" gives you away. It's said Al-Qaeda is looking for more good men. You sound like you'd fit right in there, too.

Speaking of Michael Moore in this movie, I laughed out loud at his performance. He had some great dialog and comedic timing. I recognized him immediately.

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Watch your back, FLEMINGPIMPZYOOWISHYOUWERESOMEONEWHOPEOPLEGAVEARATSASSABOUT!

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It's german for "the Democrats, the"

/anybody who speaks german can't be bad

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was it just me, or did anyone else think moore sans beard looked a lot like robbie coltrane?

Sometimes you're the windsheild
Sometimes you're the bug

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His appearence just shows how full of *beep* Michael Moore is.

In an interview, where the documentary "Michael Moore Hates America" was discussed and he was asked if he would sit down and do an interview with the man, and he said he doesn't appear in anyone's movies but his own. And yet, here he is, in a movie that isn't his.....


He's a lying *beep*

P.s-He's also in EDTV, also not his movie

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umm.. I believe he meant appearing in a documentary that was not his own, as an interviewee. I don't think anyone would object to being in a few comedies, or lie about being in them. "His appearence in Lucky Numbers, the non-political comedy where he plays an overweight asmatic is a prime example of what a lying beep he is"- Quite a blow, but did you have to reach this far to find somthing to gripe about?

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There's always his crazy statements about the Iraq insurgency and their status as equals of the Founding Fathers... or how the government has Usama bin Laden locked up and are keeping him for a good moment... or... well... you get the picture.

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Makes me wonder why he doesn't do interviews in documentaries? Is that an admission that they are too easily used to smear people?

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god­dam­n you're an idiot

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Actually, it wasn't just you. When I saw the movie for the very first time, I thought he looked like Michael Moore, but then I thought to myself, "Wait a minute. Michael Moore's not an actor." And at the time, it wasn't like now, where you saw Michael Moore on TV constantly. So his face wasn't exactly implanted in my head. But since Moore's an actor, I figured it was probably Robbie Coltrane, and that he was putting on a hell of an American accent. Now that I've watched the movie again recently, I'm pretty damn impressed that Moore was able to pull off such a fine performance, having no experience with acting. And I'm the first to attack any musician or any other non-acting celebrity, who ventures into this world of acting. I've seen him play himself in a few movies, and in this movie he's actually playing a "character"--if he were just playing an extension of his real life persona, I wouldn't be as impressed. As an asthmatic, goody-two-shoes pervert, I found him pretty convincing.

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"was it just me, or did anyone else think moore sans beard looked a lot like robbie coltrane? "

Whenever I see him clean-shaven, I immediately think of Peter Griffin from "Family Guy."

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Personally I recognized him before I even saw his face. He has a very distinctive walk , kind of like an overweight duck.

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yeh.. people who know me, call it the "Penguin"

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Yeah, he plays cousin walter.
I was surprised as well.
I never imagined Michael Moore to be an actor.

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good thing he did that columbine thing after this, a mans gotta feed the family and stuff

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He was Good!

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If he stopped eating all the damn food, maybe his family would have enough

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i am a fairly moderate/somewhat liberal thinker and I think Moore is a bit of a tool... His movies are contrived as all hell and will be dated as soon as a democratic party takes office.. Bush is dumb enough to make himself look bad without Moore having to lie to make him look worse..

As far as how he was in this movie.. I thought he was great.. I love this movie and agree that it is completely underrated.. Everyone did well and since i saw this before Moore's flicks, he will always be that masturbating guy from Lucking Numbers...

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I have never seen any of M.M. doco's shoud I ?

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Only if you want half-truths, false statistics, outright lies, and deceitful editing. If that's your cup of tea then, by all means, watch a MM 'mockumentary'.

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"Only if you want half-truths, false statistics, outright lies, and deceitful editing."

Fox "News"!

" If that's your cup of tea then, by all means, watch a MM 'mockumentary'. "

You don't know what a documentary is, do you?

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Neither does Moore obviously

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"Neither does Moore obviously"

Well, he has made several award winning documentaries, so I suspect he knows more about them than a porn-obsessed, community collge dropout from PA, Kyle.

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Hey hey hey, I dropped out of a respectable college, not a community college. And I hold down a decent job. Unlike Moore, who quit his only real job after one day.

And what's you point? Making 2 award winning documentaries (And several others that were considered crap) doesn't make them real documentaries, nor even that good. As I said, the bulk of his work has been rather mundane. And they aren't documentaries, wherein they document facts to inform people. They are propoganda pieces that show certain facts in a light that conforms to his views and ideas, and is used to push people into believing what he does. Pretty much just propoganda films. He is a double-dealing, dishonest moron who goes around spouting his smug brand of rhetoric about caring for people while he treats the people he doesn’t agree with like *beep* He produces the same *beep* propaganda that he is busy condemning from the other side. Moore is the worst kind of political advocate. He preaches to the choir and alienates everyone who is interested in honest discourse with childish generalizations and hilariously black-or-white faux-morality.

The world would be a better place without people like him

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"Hey hey hey, I dropped out of a respectable college, not a community college."

If you dropped out, it doesn't matter if you went to Harvard.

"And what's you point? Making 2 award winning documentaries (And several others that were considered crap) doesn't make them real documentaries, nor even that good."

They are highly regarded by other filmmakers and other social crusaders, the only people who try to demonize his films are the ones who were damaged by their truth.

"As I said, the bulk of his work has been rather mundane. And they aren't documentaries,"

If you insist they are not documentaries then you are being willfully ignorant. They are documentaries by every definition.

"They are propoganda pieces that show certain facts in a light that conforms to his views and ideas and is used to push people into believing what he does."

His opinions are based on facts, facts you see atre indisputable, he makes no attempt to pass off his opinion as fact, unlike yourself.

"He is a double-dealing, dishonest moron who goes around spouting his smug brand of rhetoric about caring for people while he treats the people he doesn’t agree with like *beep* He produces the same *beep* propaganda that he is busy condemning from the other side."

I can't tell if you are really this full of *beep* and actually believe this baseless rhetoric or just *beep* stupid.

"The world would be a better place without people like him"

I say will get rid of ANYONE with a different point of view than you, that sound like something that happened in Poland a few decades ago...hmmmmmmmm.

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Hey, i'm glad my post was deleted for absolutely no reason. Whew nothing like non offensive material responding to the topic. I mean, jeez, that's just asking to be deleted. What was I thinking being logical and informative and speaking my mind in a calm manner with evidence and few curses. My post should be more like the above because obviously it's much more informative, on topic, and less offensive than mine was.

Nazis

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"Hey, i'm glad my post was deleted for absolutely no reason."

My guess is there was a reason.

"What was I thinking being logical and informative and speaking my mind in a calm manner with evidence and few curses."

This would be a new thing for you.

"My post should be more like the above because obviously it's much more informative, on topic, and less offensive than mine was."

Agreed.

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And all this proves is that you're an assbag. Thanks buddy

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"And all this proves is that you're an assbag. Thanks buddy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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You're killing me man, stop it!

www.myspace.com/kjb021784

Too funny.

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What's funny on there? Not angry, just curious

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I know EXACTLY what a documentary is but apparently you don't. If you take his so-called "documentaries" as truth then you are exactly the kind of blind and stupid sheep he caters to. He says it and you believe it. Very pathetic especially coming from someone who criticized someone else for being a community college dropout. So his mockumentaries won some awards- so what? Because he won some awards does that mean the false stats that he put out become true? To people like you there are no two sides to every story. You believe his trite and never question whether it is true or not. "It won an award so it must be true!" Personally I'd rather be a "porn obsessed, community college dropout" who is able to think independently then some sheepish nimrod who, despite whatever education you may or may not have, needs liars and traitorous distorters like Michael Moore to do my thinking for me.

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Cynikal is just another douchebag liberal on a highhorse. This dimwit can't even put up a solid argument for his hero. Typical educated liberal with no common sense whatsoever. Highly educated but completely stupid and gullible. Sad.

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"Cynikal (sic) is just another douchebag liberal on a highhorse (sic)."

"douchebag" is the opposite of liberal, son. Read a book now and again to avoid tis kind of confusion.

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"I know EXACTLY what a documentary is but apparently you don't."

You think BFC is not a documentary so it is clear as glass you don't know what the *beep* a documentary is, nor could you find your bristled pucker with a map.

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Yeah okay. So according to you a "documentary" is deliberately falsifying statistics, selective editing, carefully cutting dialogue to misrepresent, distort, and twist the meaning, intent, and words of the interviewees to coincide with this "filmmakers" personal and political agenda? Is THAT what a documentary is to you? If that's true then trying to debate you is like trying to reason with a retarded otter. I will, however, continue to bitch-slap every one of your weak, watery, whiney arguments just for the sheer simplicity of it. I hope, next time, you can come up with better insults than the 3rd grade level "bristled pucker" jabs. You seriously disappoint me on many levels. Take care. P.S. Not all glass is clear. A pre-schooler could tell you that.

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"So according to you a "documentary" is deliberately falsifying statistics, selective editing, carefully cutting dialogue (sic) to misrepresent, distort, and twist the meaning, intent, and words of the interviewees to coincide with this "filmmakers" personal and political agenda?"

The film challenges your beliefs which is why you continue to attack the definition of the film rather than the information contained within. You can not agree with the conclusion of the filmmaker but you can't argue that the facts were incorrect, nor can you redefine what a documentary is based on your personal bias.

"If that's true then trying to debate you is like trying to reason with a retarded otter."

You do keep some unusual company, though I suppose it is self-imposed due to your lack of understanding of basic principals of film and politics.

"I will, however, continue to bitch-slap every one of your weak (sic), watery, whiney(sic)arguments just for the sheer simplicity of it. I hope, next time, you can come up with better insults than the 3rd grade level "bristled pucker" jabs."

If you ever do manage to "bitch-slap" me, I will be the first to congratulate you and then buy you a balloon, which color would you like? Not that your dreams of a balloon are even within your grasp, as I suspect you don't have opposable thumbs.

"You seriously disappoint me on many levels."

Because I am not susceptible to your bull *beep* retorts and undeserved sense of accomplishment?

"Take care. P.S. Not all glass is clear."

The most common types are, son. Care to split any more hairs in desperation?

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Ahhh...I love spin. You did exactly what I expected you to. You say the film "challenges my belief which is why I continue to attack the definition of the film rather than the information contained within". Are you serious? It's the information contained within the film that changes the definition! I am attacking the definition BECAUSE OF THE FALSE INFORMATION CONTAINED WITHIN! Michael Moore ADMITTED falsifying a lot of information. That is why his credibility is in the crapper to this day. It's not my "personal bias" that put fake stats and falsified information on his mockumentaries. Only herd-minded human sheep could come to that conclusion. And I can argue his "facts" were incorrect because they WERE. Simple research will enlighten you to that. Facts cease to be facts once they are falsified or didn't you get that memo? You inquired if I would "care to split any more hairs in desperation?" It truly is sad when someone sees stating of simple fact as "desperation". How does it feel to have your debate turned into swiss cheese by someone without opposable thumbs? I know you are not succeptible to my "bullsh.t" as you view facts that dont fit into your warm fuzzy liberal world as "bullsh.t". Textboox liberalism. And do NOT call me "son". I'm not your son. Why don't you just do what you are obviously desperate to do- just call me a "big stupid poo-poo head" and run away.

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"Ahhh...I love spin."

That is obvious, you're just not very good at it.

"It's the information contained within the film that changes the definition!"

No, the information is verifiable.

"Michael Moore ADMITTED falsifying a lot of information."

Actually, he refuted all challenges with outside sources.

"That is why his credibility is in the crapper to this day."

Only with The Bush fellators and the extreme right.

"It's not my "personal bias" that put fake stats and falsified information on his mockumentaries."

Must be your ignorance then.

"Only herd-minded human sheep could come to that conclusion."

I don't think you're in a position to call anyone else a "herd-minded sheep" as your replys have been standard anti-Moore talking point programming.

"And I can argue his "facts" were incorrect because they WERE."

Your programming is still incorrect, you might want to investigate further as I doubt you have room in your mouth for your other foot.

"Facts cease to be facts once they are falsified or didn't you get that memo?"

Indeed, the facts are on my side in this argument.

"You inquired if I would "care to split any more hairs in desperation?" It truly is sad when someone sees stating of simple fact as "desperation"."

If you were even close to hinting at the truth, I would have cut you some slack. But because you haven't done any of your own research and instead choose to parrot the oft-defeated talking points of the right, the gloves are off.

"How does it feel to have your debate turned into swiss cheese by someone without opposable thumbs?"

Yeah, you're not nearly as impressive as you think you are, and if you think that you were even remotely close to any sort of reasonable debate win, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

"I know you are not succeptible (sic) to my "bullsh.t" as you view facts that dont (sic) fit into your warm fuzzy liberal world as "bullsh.t"."

Were you to have included any facts, you might have been able to make a point, as it stands your are still full of *beep*

"Textboox liberalism."

Opening, reading, and comprehending a textbook is the basis of liberalism.

"And do NOT call me "son". I'm not your son."

Sure thing, kitten.

"Why don't you just do what you are obviously desperate to do- just call me a "big stupid poo-poo head" and run away."

Because it's amusing to slap around a delusional "big stupid poo-poo head" when he thinks he's winning. Actually, it's kinda sad too.

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It is the saddest thing I have ever seen. You actually believe the lies and you actually TRY to defend them by convincing yourself that they are truth. I'm done with you, sheep. I have given you researchable FACTS and you still claim they are lies because they go against the word of your fat-slob, lying hero. I guess that I shouldn't be suprised that liberalism is defined by some psychologists as a mental disorder. People like yourself have cemented that dubious honor. Like I said -I'm done with you. Have a nice life, sheep. You may have the last word because I am very aware of the fact that liberals, like yourself, have to get in the last word despite having soundly lost a debate. So easy to knock down but never smart enough to stay down. Have a good day, sheepie. BAAAAAAAA!

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"It is the saddest thing I have ever seen."

Sadder than a skinny puppy in the rain even?

"You actually believe the lies and you actually TRY to defend them by convincing yourself that they are truth."

I feel like I'm eavesdropping on a conversation you are having with a mirror.

"I'm done with you, sheep.", said bombsniffingdog as he ripped off his leather mask and used a dirty sock to clean himself.

"I have given you researchable FACTS and you still claim they are lies because they go against the word of your fat-slob, lying hero."

You've given nothing but baseless rhetoric, Moore isn't my hero, but he happens to have valid criticisms and is therefore worthy of defense from ignorant twats who attack him for no other reason than making them think a little harder than they are comfortable with.

"I guess that I shouldn't be suprised (sic) that liberalism is defined by some psychologists as a mental disorder."

Only bigots like Michael Savage have ever said that. Your patterns are awfully predictable.

"Like I said -I'm done with you. Have a nice life, sheep.", said bombsniffingdog as he slapped his lover's ass and promptly dismounted.

" You may have the last word because I am very aware of the fact that liberals, like yourself, have to get in the last word despite having soundly lost a debate."

In other words, you're taking your ball and you're going home with your tail tucked between your legs. Again, pretty predictable from those of your ilk.

"So easy to knock down but never smart enough to stay down."

Again, I have yet to be beaten on this particular debate, the facts are a bitch to overcome. Either way though, you don't have the stones even if you did know what the *beep* you were taking about.

"Have a good day, sheepie. BAAAAAAAA!", and bombsniffingdog rode his lover into the sunset to lick his wounds, knowing that he had been bested by common sense and factual representation.

Goodbye, son.

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"Trying to talk sense into the Domestic Enemies Of The Constitution"

President Bush did allow secret wiretapping of his own citizens, you are right.

"...liberals in here is like trying to talk to a puddle of dog puke on the sidewalk. It's hopeless."

as someone who frequently fraternizes with vomit, you simply have to stop and consider dave1031's professional viewpoint on this. Puke I mean, he know exactly dick about politics, history, or basic composition skills.

"You're not going to get any logical, or conceding replies."

dave1031 is of course talking about the discrimination of morons here on the IMDB boards, he is the victim, always.

"Most of them in here, went to the Rosie O'Donnell school of debating, all they can come up with when someone challenges them on some point, is to make fun of them, call them names, and spout there angry American hating rhetoric for their own socialist agendas."

I believe what dave1031 means here is that "the View" is *beep* without Starr Jones. See, when dave is challenged, he builds a strawman argument, by that I mean he introduces topics which have absolutely nothing to do with what is being discussed. He tends to regurgitate whatever babble Rush is on about at the moment under these circumstances. He's cute that way

"They hate capitalism, and they hate for the USA to win in wars so they can boast how evil America is, and how right they were."

See, here dave tries to put labels on people, in this case it's Rosie O'Donnell. While I generally find Rosie pretty obnoxious, she owns several business, she probably would not bother with a business if she indeed hated capitalism. dav1031 also prefers to live in a dome of ignorance, if you will. All criticism of The United States, he takes personally. He's kind of a douchebag martyr, if you will.

"They're selfish, egotistical, hateful, heathenistic (sic)ways, makes them feel superior to everyone else."

Here dave almost explodes with irony by attacking people he claims are acting superior all the while claiming he has a moral superiority himself. It's this type of gem that keeps the folks here in my office roaring with laughter.

"Unfortunately, it just exposes them for the phonies, and hypocrites they are, since they don't practice what they preach, which is "liberalism".
Assclowns and Moonbats, the whole lot of 'em."

This is sadly where dave gives up, he resorts to name-calling (again, something he accused others of doing) and then goes out with a poof and a cry rather than a bang.

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You are absolutely right, Dave. And well said! This liberal numbnuts was just chasing his tail attempting to win a debate with clever (and not so clever) wording. Just another weak-willed punk pretending to have some sort of intellectual capacity regarding the real world. I'm done with his sorry ass. Just shut the f..k up, cynekal. You are tiresome and boring.

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"This liberal numbnuts was just chasing his tail attempting to win a debate with clever (and not so clever) wording."

Don't forget I was using facts and my opponent was ill-prepared for this level of discussion.

"Just another weak-willed punk pretending to have some sort of intellectual capacity regarding the real world."

Well, you might want to give section 2a a look in the link provided below, bumsniffing dog:

http://www.heretical.com/sexsci/bpsychol.html

"I'm done with his sorry ass."

You said that last time, I'll believe it when I see it, son.

"Just shut the f..k up, cynekal (sic). You are tiresome and boring."

So tiresome and boring that you are compelled to try and defend yourself. Hmm.. how telling.

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"Ted Kennedy speaking at the press club yesterday, called the Iraq war, "George Bush's Vietnam."

And he is absolutely right, Bush has made the wrong decision in almost every possible way.

"Thank's Ted, you fat, bloated, drunken, murderous, rape complicit, traitorous, socialist, Second Ammendment (sic) abolishing, sell out to the illegals, liberal Democrat senator from Massachusetts!"

Well, once again you show how little you really know about politics. Ted Kennedy, good Senator, lousy date. - Dennis Leary

"You helped proved my point about how liberals desperately want us to lose in Iraq just so they can boast how right they were."

No, no he didn't. Bush started the war without reason or evidence, he has mismanaged it ever since. You can't blame "them goldurn libruls" for your President's *beep* ups.

"They don't give a rat's ass about America winning, or stopping the war on terror. "
Liberals fully support the war on terror, just not the war in Iraq.

"A good phrase is worth repeating; The liberals are selfish, egotistical, hypocritical, America hating, domestic enemies of the Constitution, and always will be."

Where was that good phrase you were going to repeat? I haven't heard you utter one in any of the diarrhea you've sprayed in these forums. Liberals love America, enough that they want to protect it from the Bush fellators who choose to manipulate it for their own deeds. You are a hate-monger dave, the lowest of the low.

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There's a difference between "hateful" vulgar name calling, like our friend Cinekal uses in here in every post of his folks, the terms I used describing Ted Killer Kennedy, and them "durn libruls", (banjo boy, Cinekal's vernacular, not mine), are based on facts. I wasn't name calling.
"Bush fellators used it for their own deeds." Once again, conspiracy theory diarrhea, spewing out of the mouths of liberals with the "no blood for oil" cliche again.
Frankly it's getting kinda old by now. It's STILL costing me $40.00 to fill up my ozone depleting, global warming causing, polar bear killing, black exhaust smoke, old F250 pickup truck every week, I don't know about the rest of you commuters.
Sorry Al Gore, and the rest of you whiny, bitchy, paranoid, environmentaling mental retards out there, I just had to throw that in.

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"There's a difference between "hateful" vulgar name calling, like our friend Cinekal uses.."

Not hateful, but appropriate and justified.

"...the terms I used describing Ted Killer Kennedy, and them "durn libruls", (banjo boy, Cinekal's vernacular, not mine), are based on facts. I wasn't name calling."

Calling Ted a killer is debatable, but nothing else was based on facts, at least not facts that weren't made up or extruded from your arse.

"Bush fellators used it for their own deeds." Once again, conspiracy theory diarrhea, spewing out of the mouths of liberals with the "no blood for oil" cliche again."

Stop putting words in my mouth, Chubs. I never said "no blood for oil" only that some people are so defensive of Bush that it's laughable.


"Frankly it's getting kinda old by now. It's STILL costing me $30.00 to fill up my ozone depleting, global warming causing, polar bear killing, black exhaust smoke, old F250 pickup truck every week, I don't know about the rest of you commuters."

I wouldn't have guessed you were old enough to drive.

"Sorry Al Gore, and the rest of you whiny, bitchy, environmentaling mental retards out there, I just had to throw that in."

That you are a selfish *beep* with little or no regard for the planet we live on or the future we pass on to our children. Yeah, you go on and be proud of that.

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You're gonna save the planet 'aye Comical? What a naive statement.
.."we pass onto our children" Oh God, stop Cinekal, you're gonna make me weep. *sniffle.
Here's some word's of wisdom from George Carlin;
"I'm tired of earth day. I'm tired of these self-rightous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for their Volvo's. Environmentalists don't give a *beep* about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might personally be inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.
The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tetonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, hundreds of thousand of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosions, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages.. and we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!
The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance."

Yeh he's just a stand up comic, but no word's have ever been spoken more truthfully and eloquently, regarding you environmentalist, yuppie, elitists.

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"You're gonna save the planet 'aye (sic) Comical (sic)? What a naive statement.'

Naive? No. But gloating about how you don't care is well, you being a douchebag.

"I'm tired of these self-rightous (sic) environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for their Volvo's. Environmentalists don't give a *beep* about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might personally be inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me."

The bourgeois liberal that George is talking about are the stand out faux liberals, the kind that real liberal distance them self from, like real conservatives who distance themselves from you. You missed his meaning completely by extracting his quote out of context in an attempt to support your stance, yeah it didn't work again.

" Yeh (sic) he's just a stand up comic..."

He is one of the top five best, in my humble opinion.

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"Douchebag. Every time you call me that Cinekal, you're like a poker player exposing his "tell."

Exposing a "tell"? It's hardly a secret, dear.

"In your case, it means you're bluffing. You have nothing. You resort to vulgar name calling when you're losing an argument, convincing yourself by doing so you won."

Bluffing? No, you are indeed a douchebag, uncontested. Vulgar isn't really accurate, either. Now, were I to elaborate on how you present yourself I'd call you a truly *beep* *beep* who *beep* monkeys in a cage and wants to *beep* everyone who will let him.

"You're an amatuer.(sic)"

Being that I don't know what a "amatuer" is, I just might be one.

"If you ever go to Las Vegas to play in a poker tournament, let me know will ya Comical (sic), I'd like to place some bets against you."

I believe only the players make the bets, dave.

"I didn't take anything of Carlin's out of context, the rest of his routine regarding this subject, was in the same vein."

You may not have intentionally, but you did indeed. Carlin is a lifelong liberal and he was ranting about fake liberals.

"I didn't use his whole speech because of space restrictions, and to paraphrase Bill O'Reiily, (sic) I was "keeping it pithy."

The whole bit still doesn't mean what you think it does, sorry.

"Funny, I've seen all of Carlins HBO concerts, and have some old records of his, and never heard him utter the word, "faux liberal" in any of them."

Point being.......?

"Your attempt at denial, didn't work again either."

What did I deny, sugartits? All I did was correct you, like I always do.

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"beep beep beep beep".
Cinekal's either turned into the Roadrunner, or he needs an anger management class, ASAP.

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"Michael Moore ADMITTED falsifying a lot of information."

Actually, he refuted all challenges with outside sources."


Ahhh, yes, but his 'refutations' were successful ONLY with those inept folks who do not have the scope to look deeper-such as yourself...

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"Ahhh, yes, but his 'refutations' were successful ONLY with those inept folks who do not have the scope to look deeper-such as yourself... "

Chuckles, each one of them can be verified through several independent sources, I know that doesn't support your stance, but we already knew that.

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"verified"? Scoff. "independent sources". Scoff. (And I already knew that YOU couldn't/wouldn't look deeper...!)

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""verified"? Scoff. "independent sources". Scoff."

Well of course you scoff at them, they highlight your stupidity.

"And I already knew that YOU couldn't/wouldn't look deeper...!"

Actually, you might try looking beyond the end of your nose now and again, there is a whole world out there, John.

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"Actually, you might try looking beyond the end of your nose now and again, there is a whole world out there, John. "

Sorry, all I see is a computer monitor at the moment Joon, however, if a booger ever shows I'll name it after you....

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"Sorry, all I see is a computer monitor at the moment Joon, however, if a booger ever shows I'll name it after you.... []"

I seem to have touched a nerve. Hmmm...

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" I seemed to have touched a nerve. Mmmmm..."

Cinekal, please refrain from touching your nerve in here please. Save that
for the Sears underwear catalogs, that you've hidden under your mattress from your mommy.

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"Cinekal, please refrain from touching your nerve in here please. Save that
for the Sears underwear catalogs, that you've hidden under your mattress from your mommy."

Please add "Human Anatomy and Physiology" to the multi-part list of things that dave1031 knows nothing about.

Please also erase the mental image of dave1031 rubbing one out to his mother's department store catalog.

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""Cinekal The Hypocrite""

I am many things dear dave, but I am no hypocrite.

"It's ok (sic) for him to use words metaphorically, as in "rubbing one out", but if I do it, as in referring to him, "touching his nerve", he tries to correct me in his usual lame manner."

"Rubbing one out" is a popular metaphor for male masturbation, "touching a nerve" was just an attempted comeback because you had nothing else.

"By the way, you said, "touched a nerve" first, which is also a metaphor."

I used it in a common way, you tried to stretch it's meaning, what exactly was your point?

"Rubbing what out? Rubbing out a furniture stain? Rubbing out a scratch on my automobile?"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rubbing+one+out

and
(definition 3)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/touched+a+nerve

"Please add "Specificity" to the list of words Cinekal is ignorant of."

Kitten, the only thing I am guilty of is assuming you had basic common sense, I won't make that mistake again.

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Comical, first you call me profane names like, "douchebag" and other assorted *bleep bleeps, now you start calling me names like "dear" and "kitten".
Either you have suddenly started getting a crush on me, (it's understandable, I'm adorable at times), or, you're just being indecisive again.
"urban dictionary" ? No wonder you don't make any sense in here half the time. You're looking up words in a satirical faux dictionary, instead of a real one.
Which periodical do you get your political news from Cinekal, Mad Magazine or Cracked Magazine?
Hehehehe!

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"I seem to have touched a nerve. Hmmm..."

No doubt you have, after all you DO have "quite some nerve!" for such a little guy...

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"Comical, first you call me profane names like, "douchebag" and other assorted *bleep bleeps, now you start calling me names like "dear" and "kitten".
Either you have suddenly started getting a crush on me, (it's understandable, I'm adorable at times), or, you're just being indecisive again."

Profane? No, it's not. Not a crush, nor am I indecisive. You might want to lookup "sarcasm" for today's lesson.

""urban dictionary" ? No wonder you don't make any sense in here half the time."

I won't dumb myself down so you can understand me, I won't do it. You'll just have to catch up.

"You're looking up words in a satirical faux dictionary, instead of a real one."

It's not satire (not that I would expect you to know the difference), nor is it "faux". It's a slang dictionary composed of user contributions, much like Wikipedia.

"Which periodical do you get your political news from Cinekal, Mad Magazine or Cracked Magazine?"

I get my political news from many sources, I get my political satire from Boortz, Limbaugh, Medved, Fox "News", and Savage.

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"No doubt you have, after all you DO have "quite some nerve!" for such a little guy... []"

John C. Denner: Sidestepping the issues he doesn't understand since 1922.

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I wasn't around in "1922"-that must have been you. (What does the 'C' stand for='Cinekal'...? )

Besides, I DON'T 'sidestep' issues-YOU are the 'issue' here...and I simply step ON you...

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"I wasn't around in "1922""

That's how bad it is, your ignorance precedes you.

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"That's how bad it is, your ignorance precedes you."

Maybe...but it landed on YOU first... (And it appears to have stayed there...!)

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"Maybe...but it landed on YOU first..."

What landed? What are you talking about? You know, the mind is the first thing to go, John.

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"What landed? What are you talking about?"

Lost track already, have you? Well, 'tis to be expected, Huckleberry.

SO you're saying now that your "mind" has gone? Now THAT's surprising, I didn't assume that you ever HAD one...(what was your NEXT 'thing' that went?...should we guess? )

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"Lost track already, have you?"

You have a tendency to drift in and out of different conversations, when you can't argue a point you introduce a completely different topic. It's your way, I'm afraid.

"Well, 'tis to be expected, Huckleberry."

Delusional behavior is another sign, John.

"SO you're saying now that your "mind" has gone?"

Confusion is common for people in your state.

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"Confusion is common for people in your state."

Hate to break it to ya, Lollypop, but I reside in a province...


"Well, 'tis to be expected, Huckleberry."

'Delusional behaviour is another sign, John"

Well, so it is-Ive noticed that in you before as well, Huck.

'when you can't argue a point you introduce a completely different topic. It's your way, I'm afraid."

MY TOPIC was and is YOU. No need to be afraid-Im not gonna beat you up or anything...quite the reverse, really...Im just gonna keep putting you down...


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Dementia, it's what's for breakfast, lunch, AND dinner in the Denner household.

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"Dementia, it's what's for breakfast, lunch, AND dinner in the Denner household."

That's only what we feed our unwanted guests...say, you must have eaten here...?

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"That's only what we feed our unwanted guests..."

Seems you have tasted it for flavor more times than you are aware of...

"say, you must have eaten here...?"

I doubt I would receive an invitation.

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Denner, go ahead and invite Cinekal over for dinner. Why don't you put out a plate of crow for him to eat, he's used to it.
For dessert, Cinekal can put his foot in his mouth. He's used to that too. We don't want to upset his baby-like pablum drinking, and overly sensitive Milquetoast eating, digestive system now do we?

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"Why don't you put out a plate of crow for him to eat, he's used to it."

I've never had it, nor would you two jackasses be the ones to make me eat it.

"For dessert, Cinekal can put his foot in his mouth. He's used to that too."

Kitten, I'm not the one with shoe leather in his mouth in this scenario, you've got "Buster Brown" permanently imprinted on your tongue.

"We don't want to upset his baby-like pablum drinking, and overly sensitive Milquetoast eating, digestive system now do we?"

Someones trying to use colloquialisms again, you fail...again.

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"That's only what we feed our unwanted guests..."

"Seems you have tasted it for flavor more times than you are aware of..."

Perhaps-but YOU have 's-wallow'ed in it...

"say, you must have eaten here...?"

I doubt I would receive an invitation."

You'd more likely have attended 'unannounced'...

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"Perhaps-but YOU have 's-wallow'ed in it... "

*sigh* the classic Denner "Nuh-Uh, you are" response.

"You'd more likely have attended 'unannounced'..."

I don't run in those circles, so you're wrong again. Shocker.

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So you've reached your Dimentia some OTHER way then...

From Cinekal;"*sigh* the classic Denner "Nuh-Uh, you are" response."

Also from C; "so you're wrong again."

Pot. Kettle. Black. (Hypocrisy-yours- has no boundaries... )

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"So you've reached your Dimentia (sic) some OTHER way then... []

It's getting sadder reading your responses since the symptoms are getting worse :(

"Pot. Kettle. Black."

I'm not remotely like you in any way, which is how I sleep soundly at night.

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"I sleep soundly at night."

You're asleep most of the day, too....

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"You're asleep most of the day, too.... []"

That's still more conscious than you can manage.

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"That's still more conscious than you can manage."

Too bad you aren't able to do anything positive with it.

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What positive thing could I accomplish with your unconsciousness?

Silly *beep*

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"What positive thing could I accomplish with your unconsciousness?

Silly *beep*


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Tch, tch-we were talking about YOUR 'consciousness' NOT my "unconciousness", please try and keep up. (And, with that, I rest my case.)





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"Tch, tch-we were talking about YOUR 'consciousness' NOT my "unconciousness" (sic), please try and keep up."

Based on your viewpoint of nearly everything, it's clear that you are the one asleep at the wheel, John. No one in reality could justify the crap you endorse without question or reason.

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"it's clear that you are the one asleep at the wheel, John."

How can ANYTHING be "clear" to you since your eyes are shut most of the time, and muddied up the rest of the time, Huck?

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"How can ANYTHING be "clear" to you since your eyes are shut most of the time, and muddied up the rest of the time, Huck?"

Coming from a pedophile, I would have to take what you posted with a grain of salt.

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"Coming from a pedophile, I would have to take what you posted with a grain of salt. "

You just came "from a pedophile" Cin? I suppose now you want me to be more sympathetic towards you? Before I do, let me ask you-were you forced against your will-or was your visit uh-'mutually amicable'?

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You sleep soundly all day, too...

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I'm surprised Denner hasn't shot his face off yet.

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{laugh] I always DID surprise you didn't I, Simp...s'matter did ya miss my presence here?

Awwwww.....cheeee.....(blush)

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But we can always count on him to shoot his mouth off....

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"But we can always count on him to shoot his mouth off...."

At least, unlike yourself, my foot isn't always in it...

(Heh-if ya can't stand the heat-get out of the....line of fire...)

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"At least, unlike yourself, my foot isn't always in it..."

But yours is muffled on account of where your head is firmly buried.

(insert Denner-like folksy-sounding twaddle here along with a braying jackass laughing smiley)

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"But yours is muffled on account of where your head is firmly buried"

It was only 'buried' by my hand-which I can remove from in front of my mouth after I'm through yawning at your weak attempts at humour...(or is that 'tumor'?)

"(insert Denner-like folksy-sounding twaddle here along with a braying jackass laughing smiley)"

What's that they say about 'plagiarism' being the truest form of flattery? Gee, thanks.

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You're going to have to excuse Cinekal he is a bit slow. I know I've dealt with him before.

"God Bless The USA"

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Come now-there IS no 'excuse for Cinekai'...

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If I'm slow, then you've stopped completely.

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Whattaya mean 'stopped'-I'm STILL replying! Oh, that's right, you ARE a 'slow' reader...(among other things.)

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Literally interpreting everything, incontinence, and complete disregard of everything you can't rebuke never gets old for you, does it John?

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Actually, I AM 'in continent'- having been living here in the continent of North America all of my life. How's things in YOUR Lala Land, Lillian?

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It's funny that I didn't say anything about you being "in continent", John.

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It all depends on one's 'perspective', Joan....uh...Lil.(How one wishes to read/'interpret' things, remember? )

Now, was that the best retort you could come up with? C'mon, Cin, you can do better than that. (Oh, wait, it's Cinekal...no, he can't. [sad[)

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Denner, Don't you know by now you waste your time when you argue with mentally retorted people?


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C'mon Cinekal reply back with another lame liberal comeback. You really are a comedy act Cinekal.

"God Bless The USA"

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If you want lame I'm afraid I'll have to take a different political position than I currently subscribe to.

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Why would he argue with you dave, you're on his side?

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"you're on his side?"

Meanwhile, you're flat on your back-"side."

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"mentally retorted"?

Dave, Cin has never "retorted" anything "mentally" in his life. That would require thought. Which he is uncapable of. He simply 'blurts out' his words.

Besides, there is such a thing as 'transformation by association' in which aspects of the stronger party can 'rub off' onto the weaker party. Therefore I could very well be Cin's only hope...

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Denner, keep up your humanitarianism. However, I doubt it will work on certain "humans" in here. A few of them still think they're apes. That IS understandable though, judging by their primitive like scribblings.

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A few of them ARE "apes"...maybe that's why Cin is always so...dis GRUNT led...?

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..only hope? No.

Gigantic leap backwards? Absolutely.

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Cinekal if you ever passed on your genes (hopefully not already) that would be a gigantic leap backwards for humanity. Absolutely

"God Bless The USA"

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"Cinekal if you ever passed on your genes (hopefully not already) that would be a gigantic leap backwards for humanity. Absolutely"

If I were you, I'd be more concerned that my family tree didn't branch.

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"..only hope? No." Oh good, that means there is someone other than me who can 'influence you'? (or worse, that there is NO "hope' for you"...)

"Gigantic leap backwards? Absolutely."

Lesson number two-it's not a good idea for you to take a 'gigantic leap backwards' Cin. one must learn to 'look' before one 'leaps'...

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"one must learn to 'look' before one 'leaps'... "

You should take your own advice.

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"Been there-done that."

Sighhhh...

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In the documentary "FarenHYPE 911", Ralph Nader says that Moore screwed up when he decided to edit his 'documentaries' to fit his personal point of view, as well as scripting and directing entire scenes of made-up stuff. He used to support Moore until he found out about the fake stuff. Plus, there were quite a few Democrats as well as Republicans who supported Bush's decision to go into Iraq, citing Saddam's open threat to attack the U.S. as serious, and Saddam as a man not to be taken lightly.

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ah, in all fairness, it's pretty hard to miss him :)


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