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I`ve never seen it. My mom won`t let me either.


I`m 13. I don`t blame my mom. My friend saw it, and she shakes everytime she hears 'human nature'. Is it scary?

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I certainly wouldn't recommend the movie to you if you're 13. Honestly, there are many themes in the film that you would miss and you'd end up very confused by the movie or traumatized like your friend. In the meantime, read up on some good philosophy books and when you're ready for the movie, rent it. It is actually good.

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I agree, definately not if you're 13. It has some very explicit scenes, and unless you're completely in love with Rhys Ifans(like me), you probably could care less about this film. When you are a bit older I bet you'd understand it more. It's a very good film...Wait a couple years. :) Laters, Rae

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Christ, get a grip! This is a comedy with a couple of nude scenes in it! It won't mentally scar you! Alright, so you might not get some of the more adult themes in the film but that doesn't mean that you will shake every time you hear the words human and nature together. If seeing breasts on a tv screen affects you in that way then i don't think that you're ready to watch any films, let alone this one.

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you know, I find it rather insulting that people think 13 year olds won't get this movie. some of them will and some of them won't. I myself see where this movie is coming from because it happens to jive well with my own personal philosophy and acadamic and personal research into alternative phenomenological accounts of so-called normal and abnormal ways of existing as humans. However, the fundamental messages of this film, in particular that young children are blinded into absurdity by the psychological dysfunctions of the older generation (i.e., they become alienated from aspects of their Experience not in conformance with what they take themselves to be which in turn is a reflection of what they are told they are and ought to be by the parents which is a reflection of prior violence on their experience from their parents and so on), and also the idea of the multiple layers of pretexts, lies, self-deceptions, attempts to get the others to confirm what one takes oneself to be and attempts to get others to conform to what one takes them to be, all these kinds of messages, though perhaps not intellectually formalized by 13 year olds in abstract philosophical jargon, nonetheless is something that each of us more or less feels intuitively at that or any other age, and anyone (more or less) can, with but a little honest attempt to be aware of how they and others relate to each other as they relate to each other, will become aware (even though such 'awareness' is usually punished in most families, or invalidated in one way or another, or ignored completely) of the above. So, I believe, a great many 13 year olds would get this movie intuitively if they were not conditioned by society to not be able to think in terms that challenge the authority of societal and family fantasies as to what we are. It does not help moreover to further discourage them by saying they are too young or that they should wait. one is never too young to become aware of the negative aspects of human interpersonal relations. Finally, the sex issue. to me this issue is a non starter. sex is natural and humans have a natural instinct and curiosity towards it. by moralizing about sex and turning it into this taboo issue that young people cannot see we in turn teach them to repress and do violence to their instincts instead of harnassing them in creative ways. even with that said, the sex displayed in this movie is not graphic, but just odd. if it creeps you out all the better. human reality is actually creepy, all forced efforts at collective normality notwithstanding. indeed, the latter are the creepiest things of all. it is not the actual sex that should be disturbing. the actual sex is just a biological instinct. what's creepy is the way the movie displays humans turning it into this psycho-social nightmare of lies and lies about lies and repressions of repressions of the above, all manifested in what appear on the surface to be normal 'rituals' and good 'manners'. Finally, this film teaches kids to be mistrustful of stereotyped ritualistic surface displays of being good (e.g.,having to use this fork for that food, to say all the 'appropriate' yet hollow things one needs to say to get accepted, to have to look and breathe and think and feel the way anyone and everyone takes themselves and everyone else to do yet no one it seems actually does). being mistrustful of the above is fabulous. the younger and more often kids are taught to do this the better. (or rather, the more often we allow them the chance to teach themselves to do this the better). Sorry to ramble. but the idea of a 13 year old not being allowed to watch this movie, a movie that is in part about the ridiculousness of enforced normality and the mere surface sanity of the status quo, strikes me as a little ironic. that other people posted in agreement with the decision to not allow her to see it struck me also as ironic, given the film in discussion.


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You saw it on T.V? There's your first mistake right there. You can't expect them to show you the movie as a whole on T.V. I'd understand your comment if you rented it, but...enough said.

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Excuse me whats wrong with watching this movie on tv ?.. it was broadcasted a week ago at 21pm on a family channel where i live.. watching it on tv or renting it to watch it on tv is the same...

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I can't imagine this movie on TV, unless it was a premium channel like HBO. If it was on network or cable TV, it would be edited all to hell, and it would NOT be the same as renting it.

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Paragraphs?

(directed towards Dasein1)

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well, except the fact that tv versions are cut to *beep*

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well, except the fact that tv versions are cut to *beep*


sorry man but they dont cut stuff in my country, i watched the unrated version on tv on a family channel at an early hour

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I think it depends on the person. I'm 13 as well, and the movie didn't bother me at all (I own it, by the way). I would trust your mom, I guess. She probably knows you best and knows what you can handle.

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Hell, where's the big deal?
When I was 13 I had just finished my Nietzsche readings, and naturally I had plenty possibilities to see my girlfriends nude. Where is the problem? Do couples in america not play around?
So why don't see this movie, my fav. at 13 was Clockwork Orange...

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Wow, Pat! the internet is very impressed. The internet is very impressed with you too, Dasein. The internet would like to invite you both over for tea sometime to discuss important philosophical issues and pre-pubescent breasts.

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She's either faking it, or she's not meant to live...

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Jesus get a grip, this film is rated a Fifteen and is certainly not going to mentally scar you in anyway unless you are a highly mentally underdeveloped thirteen year old. Something I find hard to believe, out if interest where do you live?

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i think you're definetely too young for this movie, but not because of the nudity ..you're too young because you probably wouldn't understand the humor of the film ..it's like watching Dr. Strangelove and you have no idea what's the Cold War about ..so you'll probably think it's just a weird movie ..it's the same with Human Nature

unless you're really more mature than the girls and boys of your age


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actually i saw it when i was 13 and i was totally enthralled by this film and it went straight to my "most" favorite. actually this was THE FIRST non-action/mainstream film I ever saw and it shattered my conceptions about "human nature" and had an everlasting effect on my life. this is the movie that impelled me to "think". maybe not now, but u should see it and certainly shouldnt die without watching it.

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To hell with your mom (no offense)! Sneak it. Hell, sneak The Wolf of Wall Street while your at it! That's a great movie that I saw when I was 12, back when it was new.

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