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This is why I didn't like this movie


Well, not exactly "didn't like the movie", as it was pretty good for what it is, but moreso the "message" of the movie.
Now, Jack was a career man, he made lots of money, he wanted more money, BUT, as opposed to other movies portraying such a character as a bad person, Jack was portrayed as a good one. Perhaps not give-all-i-have-to-charity good, but he was not mean, he was polite, and he even helped out at the conv.store. And when that "spirit" (or whatever it was) asked him about his life, instead of bitching like "Yeah, I'm rich but I still want this and that", he said "I'm good, I got all I need".
So, instead of Jack being rewarded for being a good, grounded, successful person, he gets "punished" for not wanting a family? WTF? According to this movie, you must want a family, otherwise you're bad? If you just want your career, you're not hurting anyone (outside of business of course), and you're happy and satisfied, you're still considered bad cause you don't want to have a family?
This is plain *beep* It's one thing to try and get the message through that you shouldn't be mean, or rude, or in general a bad person. That's good. But trying to force family values down the audience throats is ridiculous.

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He may have been a nice person, but he wasn't complete. He was missing something... a family, a "real" life with people who love and care for him.

"Do you even remember what you came here to find?"

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Indeed, and that was exactly my point. That the movie forces the idea that you cannot be complete if you don't have a family. It considers it unfathomable that a person can be perfectly happy and content if they have a great career and are in peace with their own self. "NO, you don't want that really, you just THINK you want that".......

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This movie doesn't focus on everyone else. It focuses on Jack. Jack was missing something because he didn't have Kate and because he didn't have Kate, he didn't have Annie or Josh.
That's not true for all people, just Jack.
For example, Alan was complete in a sense because he had his family and that would have been enough for him.
The boss, had his horses and his company and he was happy.

"Do you even remember what you came here to find?"

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... he gets "punished" for not wanting a family?
Well yes, initially he thought that, though Cash did keep calling it an opportunity to have a glimpse of what might have been/what could happen. By the end before he switches back, he does realise he was given an opportunity, that clearly very few ever receive, probably for, as you point out, being that good guy during the robbery.🐭

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Well yes, initially he thought that, though Cash did keep calling it an opportunity to have a glimpse of what might have been/what could happen. By the end before he switches back, he does realise he was given an opportunity, that clearly very few ever receive, probably for, as you point out, being that good guy during the robbery.


I agree, but I feel it was misleading the way Don said, "remember, you brought this on yourself".
As if it was a punishment for admitting that he had everything he needed(a fact).
Don just showed him things he ended up WANTING. You do not NEED a family. Many people choose not to get married. To assume they are all living unfulfilled lives is absurd and bigoted, as the OP pointed out.

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I wasn't really sure what to make of this movie when i saw it. Cage's character was intentionally unlikable, but i suppose it's a little silly to have protagonists in every movie likable.

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In the end when Jack went back to his real life, I thought he realized he really wasn't happy. Remember when he says, "Then I'm going to spend four hours skiing alone. Completely and utterly alone. I'm going to do that because that is my life, that's what's real... and there's nothing I can do to change that."

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How nice was Jack? Or, specifically, did he do good? Aside from his intervention, did we see a caring person? He was a scrooge to his employees, casual in his sex life, mocked family (for his one-night-stand, and his own family gathering, as well as his employees'), didn't even want to return Kate's call for fear of entanglements... in short, he was totally self-centered. Even his little action in the store might not really have been "good" (he might have set off the robber); I think it was just typical arrogance of a "master of the universe" type.

We didn't see him crush anyone under his boot, but think about this: Jack did not just abandon family life because he wanted to run a company that built airplanes or printed books or something productive...he was a mergers & acquisitions MAGGOT. Lasseter's company was the type that proposes or helps one company take over another, and in virtually every case, they cut jobs and close plants or stores, and generally make capitalism ever more cutthroat and cruel. (Lassetter himself said they did 6 HOSTILE takeovers last year.) Jack ran a business that produced NOTHING OF VALUE, but inflicted economic pain to get a share of the stock profits. But hey, gotta slash a few jobs and ruin some lives if Jack's going to have a bigger penthouse or a nicer Ferrari, right??

I think Cash was at the store for Jack, not for the clerk. Why pull a gun, except to draw out the customer in the back? It didn't fit the way we saw him operate later, and he had already proven the clerk was racist.

Jack and Kate in the "glimpse" were not actually poorer because they were unfortunate - they were GOOD PEOPLE. The birth of their first daughter was hardly an economic hardship: they were 29 or 30 with careers, not teenagers in high school!! Why did Kate work for a legal aid firm - was she a bad lawyer who couldn't get a better job? No - you work at a place like that because you WANT TO HELP PEOPLE. Just like "Glimpse Jack" wanted to help Big Ed, and probably helped his neighbors and others. They CHOSE values other than money, and as a result they had the love of family and friends. "Real Jack", on the other hand, chose money, and has no friends. He's going to end up like his mentor, Lassetter, whose "loves of his life" are a company and horses - things he OWNS, not people who love him. Sad and empty, no matter how expensive your car might be.

I'm always disappointed that "real Kate" turns out to be as much of a jerk as Jack. Why didn't she care about people, including her parents? And why does a selfish person like Jack think he should still have a chance at a completely different life?

I think it would have been a better ending if, after waking, Jack had driven to New Jersey and found Kate and the kids living there - with a husband that had the same good values she has. She could even say, "I've seen you on the news, Jack, and your company has ruined the lives of some of my legal clients...I don't want anything to do with you."

Then maybe Cash could reappear, and say, "Jack, you asked me why I carry this gun around...I have it because I think you might want to use it now." Then he can hand Jack the gun, walk away, and Jack puts the gun to his head, we hear the gunshot, and the screen goes black...

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And why does a selfish person like Jack think he should still have a chance at a completely different life?


- he doesn't think that "he should still have a chance at a completely different life", he is given that second chance because he did a good deed to earn it. it's similar to "It's A Wonderful Life". he's not leaving it to fate when he realizes that he might get it after all (we'll never know if he actually does, she could have just gone to Paris) - it's strongly implied that he will, but he has to try.


...Jack puts the gun to his head, we hear the gunshot, and the screen goes black...


- this is a terrible idea for the story. it's a Christmas family film, not a dark comedy or drama.



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Jack did not just abandon family life because he wanted to run a company that built airplanes or printed books or something productive...he was a mergers & acquisitions MAGGOT.


Jack was an investment banker. Investment bankers don't build airplanes or print books, they provide a service to people trying to finance investments. The hostility in a hostile takeover is generally born at the executive and ownership level, not the employee level. Sure, some lower level employees will lose their job, but is that the fault of the investment banker or the buyer? Probably not. It's probably the fault of the previous owners who bloated the company and in order for it to survive, the new owners need to make some adjustments. Which is better, firing a few people so a thousand people can keep their job, or everyone losing their job when the company goes out of business?

Don't forget that Jack went to London for an internship at Barclays, which is a bank. While there, he would have learned the trade of a banker. So when you call him a maggot, what you really mean is that bankers are maggots. By that, I assume that you have never needed the services of a bank. You've never had a loan, a credit card, a bank account, written a check, etc. So do you think bankers are maggots or are you jealous that someone like Jack makes a lot more money than you? Would it not be more productive for you to try to join him at the country club rather than try to tear him down?

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I think that Jack was too readily convinced that he needed to be a family man for his happiness. His first impression of being lumbered was more truer to him.

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I think you missed the point. The glimpse is not a punishment, it is an opportunity. It's a reward BECAUSE he was a good man (mostly). After all, he didn't have to like the new life. Cash knew he would eventually, but Jack was never forced to choose one life or the other.

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To me the glimpse WAS a punishment. He had this fabulous life, then woke up in a dirty house, cleaning both canine and kid poop, with some awful job selling tires in New Jersey. The only tolerable parts of his life were when he got the job with Lassiter which would have enabled him to move his family out of squalor, and when he went back to his old life as President of the company. You can get the girl and live a happy life without living in a toxic waste dump.

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If you think there life was squalor you must live a really privileged life. They had everything they needed. Their life could have hardly been any better.

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I think making people work on Christmas eve and Christmas is kind of *beep* Especially when he knows they don't want to be there. But other than that, I don't think he was a terrible person.

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How is what happened to him a punishment?

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I think the point of the movie was, money doesn't always buy happiness.

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