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'Carne'/'I Stand Alone' Reference on 'The Wire'?


Is there a reference to the Gaspar Noe film "Carne" in episode 2.4 of the HBO series "The Wire"? Towards the end of the episode, right before the confrontation with Omar, Johnny is recounting this story to Bubbles that seems very similar to the story of "Carne". I haven't seen Carne, but it seems very similar to the plot synopsis given at the beginning of the sequel, "I Stand Alone". Admittedly, a random reference to a obscure french film seems odd for "The Wire"...so I was wondering if anyone else had noticed this or has any further information. Below is Johnny's dialogue:

"Him and this lady have this daughter. The daughter is born a mute. The wife doesn't like that at all, so she breaks out. So this guy's raising his daughter, she has her period...she freaks out, goes to him, he thinks she was raped..."

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Well, if that isn't a clear "Carne" reference, I don't know what is.

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I agree, seems a pretty clear-cut reference. And you know those HBO types -- always with the obscure reference.

Have you seen "Carne" yet?

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I should warn you -- he's a Fourierist.

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I just watched this part of this episode 2 seconds ago and thought the exact same thing. A google search for "wire carne" brought me here. So I vote yes.

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Yep, there is definitely no other explanation for that. I'm not surprised, I'd imagine most of the writers and directors working for HBO are pretty film-literate. Not sure that the characters on "The Wire" would be, though...

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To be honest, I think the story for Carne was possibly based on a true story in the first place (well, parts of it...), thus The Wire also being based on this or even another similar true story.

See where I'm coming from?

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