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Why is Paul a loser?


Who is calling who a loser? Since when is a serious hard-working student considered a loser? To me, his roommates were losers. They were spoiled, shallow and didn't take anything seriously.

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i guess that's what it's like in school... but you see who's the loser later in life

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You've never been to school have you? That's pretty much the whole thing... rich dumb popular.

Smart nice loser.

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i think the idea is that he is perceived as a 'loser' by his roommates, by his peers. but obviously we watch it and see that he isnt a loser and infact those who spend their time like his roommates, are actually the losers.

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It depends on whether they are there because their parents paid for it or by a scholarship. If you have to earn your way in with a scholarship, you tend to take it more seriously.

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I think that's kind of the point, he's not a loser at all.

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There are thousands of accredited colleges and universities in America, ten times as many in the world. Do you really think every single one of those are the same in every single respect?
I've only attended 2 and visited a dozen or so, but each was different and stupid in its own way. Some had no partying, some had no attractive people at all, and some were just in such disarray I would never have thought it was a "college" hung up on my preconceived notions.

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In college it's harder for there to be affirmed "populars" and "offbeats" because colleges are usually too big, so there's nobody that "everybody knows." I mean I never knew a single person who ran for student government, or who was on the list to make homecoming queen.. And neither did the majority of the other 30,000 kids I went to school with.

Besides that, the fact that nobody knows anybody's past makes it easier for people to intermingle blindly. I'm sure I associated with people who back in high school would have been the stars of their school, and others who were as obsolete as I was.. but in college you're all thrown in without any knowledge of who the person next to you was.. you're just, yourself, mostly.

Of course in a few instances I felt judged and I felt like the nerd, or whatever, but way more often than not, college was phenominally open and accepting.

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Teenagers don't judge each other based on grades and integrity (this is something that no one ever notices at that age, often it's mistaken for naivety or being too much of a boy scout), Paul is seen as a loser because he's rather uncool, awkward and a doormat. When you were at school did you ever the class swots as remotely cool?

The character arc of Paul is that he becomes less of a "loser" in the end. But at the beginning he's definetely a "loser" because people walk all over him all the time. I hate the term loser anyway, it's a shallow phrase that shallow people like to use (life is not some kind of game or competition) and I think it should only really be applied to people who mess their lives up beyond repair.

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I think the more important question is how were Paul's roommates ever considered cool? Especially the fat kid with the orange pants.

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thats not true, dora liked him

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i thought he was kinda cool... he's not even awkward like in American Pie (I love that movie too). Honestly, I wouldn't and none of the kids at my school would ever hang out with those losers Adam, Christ, or Noah.

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Him being called a loser obviously has nothing to do with his work ethic. He's considered a loser by his more genetically gifted, albeit inconsiderate, peers. He's way too out of touch culturally to be roomed up with those Manhattan snobs, and he's also in love with a girl who's dating a professor, an affair he's aware of. I imagine that in the average NYU housing unit circa the late '90s, that would make him a loser by the standards of the wealthy, socialite brats who have the run of the place.

Do I think he's a loser? Of course not. But my opinion doesn't hold much weight in a college dormitory.

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I think Paul is a really cool kind of guy, he cares, works hard, is his own person, and when he got into the scuffle with his room mate and knocked the one dude down, the way he went from ass kicking mode to worried about innocent passerby guy mode is awesome!

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i loved that part, how he managed to dodge 2 hits and then after beating him took the innocent man to get medical attention

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That's real life for ya!

When I was in college, I took 28-30 credits a term, had no time to work cause I spent every day at college, had to take out loans for food and classes, didn't do drugs or drink or go out partying with friends, sat by myself at lunch, and was in a relationship with my fiancee for 3 years and I was called the Loser of the program. People and teachers picked on me! They refused to help me learn stuff sometimes in class. College was so depressing sometimes! Other than the education, I regret having gone to college for 3 years! Especially since I now owe 16K. :/

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He just was a little clueless and out of touch. He was a dork, but not a total spaz. That describes a large majority of the public. Especially you people.

He could have tried a little harder, but decided not to make any compromises. That's fine, but a guy who goes to college and spends four years grinding out grades should live alone off campus, so the culture and lifestyle won't clash too much with his goals and values.

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