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Completely from USA point of view?!


Hello,

I can imagine people found this film interesting and I have no problem with that,but I still think movies like these are sad. Who are the principal characters in this film? A bunch of Americans looking for some American in some country, caught up in some conflict they have nothing to do with.
They take some pictures, get the guy out and that's it.

It's as if people in the USA cannot sympathize with people from other countries, as if they only care when USA-ers are involved in it

From the moment they leave for Vukovar, how many times do you see them talking to Croats or Serbs? I can only think of one time : "I'm looking for an American"-"Takje pictures, they must know".

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American Air Force helping end the genocide and NATO helping keep the peace.

Can I have some of the drugs you're on?


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Thanks for nothing, genius. Look at the years and country that happened.
Vukovar is in Croatia and it was destroyed in 1991, and none of the western countries lifted a finger to help the city or the people.
All the links you posted happened at least 4 years later and in a different country.


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Hvala! Thank you! Ti mi se cini da si Hrvat.
You said exactly what I was thinking.

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As I watched this movie, the same thing crossed my mind... Your gripe with this film is similar to my gripe w/ The Last King of Scotland.. It's like, the filmakers thought the story of Amin coupled w/ Whitaker's acting skills aren't enough to carry it, and had to throw in some fictitious caucasian?

On the other hand I thought Hotel Rwanda was great, and I had more sympathy for Don Cheadle's character than anyone in the above mentioned films... For me this was not a result of who was from the USA but how the films were written and directed...

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I was just about to rent Last King of Scotland.. now I'm in doubt...

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America movie made by American money for American audience... What point of view do you expect?!

We can even be grateful that the star of the movie wasn't Stallone, Willis, Harrison Ford, Schwarzenegger, Seagal... If any of them captured the main role, he would all alone win the Vukovar battle - even if we know that there were no actual winners in the battle... but would the target audience care?

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The movie is about Harrison, hence the name.
They aren't soldiers in this country; they are photographers. When you have a gun pointed at you, you aren't going to inquire about the soldier's family history. You are going to say the only thing that may spare your life, "I'm media."

So I don't see your point here. The film is about an American photographer caught in a war zone, and his wife's struggle to find him. Hence the principal cast.

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I didn't get that message from the movie at all.

That movie depressed me. It also made me grateful that I live in America, and I've never had to deal with that kind of thing..

And It wasn't like they were running through the country not paying attention or giving a crap about all the people. In fact, it was part of their job as photographers to take pictures of everything to show America (and the world) what exactly was going down.

There was sympathy, remember the scene where she takes a picture of that little girl who was evacuating? I believe she made a comment like "The children are so beautiful here."
Then later on they find the same little girl, dead.

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This movie depressed me too, but because it totally degraded my ethnic backgound. I live in America and when people ask me what my nationality is I first say Yugoslavian, they say huh? Then I say ok, Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, etc... ring a bell? they go, Siberian? Isn't it cold there? Ok, haven't you heard of Kosovo, Bosnia and Serbia? Places the U.S. has been involved in for over a decade? They go, hmmmmm I know Iraq and Afghanistan, are you middle eastern? Finally, I say ok, north of Greece, south of Austria, and they go ooooooooooh cool, but the confused looks on their faces tell me they still have no idea what I'm talking about. And then when they talk to other people about me, they refer to me as "that Russian guy."

I love America and it always will be my first home, but the ignorance of the American people toward the Balkans is always in my face, and that is why this movie depresses me.

This movie is from the point of view of American journalists, who like many, many other Americans, have no knowledge whatsoever about Yugoslav history, custom or culture.

One part in the movie, Adrain Brody says "Serbs, Catholics, Croats, Orthodox, there all insane.....This place is.. No one knows that this place is." This is a total reflection of the ignorance of many western journalists during the war. During the war and even now, journalists often reported "ancient ethnic rivalries" and "traditions of nationalist hysteria" between the Serbs and the Croats. Hell, even in the movie when they're still in New York watching a report about the war they refer to the it as "tribal feuds". That right there makes the south slavic people seem primitive and crude.

The journalists during the war, along with this film, have failed to expose the truth behind the war. First of all, there is nothing "ancient" about conflict between the Serbs and Croats. The only time Serbs and Croats have ever fought each other as separate nations was in the 20th century, and only on two occasions.

Secondly, there is no "traditions of nationalist hysteria" in either Croatia or Serbia. Both nations are younger than most European countries as they were occupied by two different empires for hundreds of years, the Ottoman and the Austro-Hungarian. In fact, not too long before these two nations became independent from their empirical rulers, they considered each other slavic brothers.

It just shows how the west looks down on the south slavic people in general. While France and Germany and France and England have had conflicts over the course of centuries, they are not labeled as ancient enemies, but the Serbs and Croats fight each other on a few occasions in modern times and they are suddenly ancient rival tribes. When a viewer watching the news hears something like "tribe" they automatically think of the people as barbaric, and that is what this movie exacerbates: You see a Croat military camp with a pile of dead serb civilians just sitting there rotting away next to all the soldiers, and you see Serbs shooting old ladies and blowing up kids.

That is it, according to this film and the journalists it represents, that is the extent of the Serbian and Croatian people. We're all mindless barbarians that drink each others blood as we have apparently done for thousands of years. We are less civilized than the western europeans because they can have muslims and catholics and jews and orthodox and what have you all live together peacefully, but we can't. Woops, let's not talk about the Holocaust or the Spanish inquisition or the crusades, for it must have been serbian or croatian kings and queens ruling at those times.....

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