white guilt
i could not wash it off with a shower right now
the little rascals
popeye
bugs bunny
even the kid shows my great parents' generation churned out were so messed up.
to admit it, is the first step to reconciliation.
seriously.
MovieChat Forums > Bamboozled (2000) Discussion > white guilt
Guilt for what? You should be feel as much guilt for being born white as anyone would being born black or any other race.
I'm gonna eat your brains and gain your knowledge.
I haven't seen this movie in about four years, but when I saw it I felt very guilty and self-conscious. As a white man, the blood is on my hands- how could any white guy not feel guilty after that montage at the end?
shareSimple. The fact that a person is born with white skin does not make them guilty of crimes committed by others.
'White guilt' is a con. People commit their own actions based on who they themselves are, not based on their skin colour.
Why hate someone because of religion, race, gender, differing opinion etc? Get past it =/
Being born with white skin doesn't make you guilty at all.
Not protesting your position in a system based on white supremacist values should make you feel guilty.
Why would any white person protest their position? I'm proud of the accomplishments of white people, and of my European roots!
Any person that suggests I should be guilty for who I am isn't worth my pity.
Whites have created modern society and the greatest culture known to man. If it wasn't for whites, the world would be a 3rd world planet.
Well, I'm black, and I'm not one of those who holds the entire white race responsible for the stupidity of others. That would be the same as somebody holding me accountable for the actions of the D.C. Snipers, or holding all Muslims responsible for the hijackings on 9/11. Personally, blacks do a good job of degrading themselves by using the N word and referring to black women as ho's, b!tches, chickenheads, etc. Who are we to look for sympathy from others when we can't even respect ourselves enough to want to be something more than just 'nigguhs?'
shareI'm white...but have always been a fan of Spike's movies...
I went to see this with my girlfriend at the time, who was Fillipino
This was a movie I had to sit and think about, ....even days later
I think the result of this movie was that I learned that a so called "good" stereotype of a person as a result of their race can be as bad as a negative sterotype.
Saying "All black people are great singers, really good dancers and are good at basketball" is just as racist as saying "black people are all gang bangers and thieves"...
Saying "All Asians are good at math, know kung fu, and get good grades" is just as racist as saying "Asians can't drive and talk funny"
I remember the whole scene where Damon Wayan's character is auditioning all these bands/rappers to be on the show, and we see like every stereotype of what African Americans are supposed to be about...funk/ soul/ hip hop....and Damon wayans character goes "I dont want to see anything black for about a week" .... that tripped me out.... because Hip hop, funk, and soul is all stuff I seriously liked a lot, and to see that presented in that way was something I had never thought of...
Once you get past that, once you stop respecting African Americans only because of sports, hip hop music, funk/soul music, etc...what you are left with is INDIVIDUALS....individuals that you have to respect or not respect based on who they are as a person and the individual things they do, say, and represent. To hold a stereotype of someone, bad OR GOOD, based on race is just to limit them as a person.
This is one of the lessons of this movie that I took away.
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Well, I'm black, and I'm not one of those who holds the entire white race responsible for the stupidity of others.
Personally, blacks do a good job of degrading themselves by using the N word and referring to black women as ho's, b!tches, chickenheads, etc.
Kinda contradicting yourself there.
Don't tell me what I can't do! share
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I like that you ask this 6+ years after the post. What exactly was the fact?
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lol, someone's upset. i cant figure out the fact in those lies? not only are you racist and mad your bull got called out, but you're retarded
and for someone to not live on the boards, you sure did respond to that comment quick
I know you comment is almost 5 years old, but, your suck-azz, kombi yi attitude towards black/white relations is sickening. How many of us black men have gotten into an elevator with a white woman, and she clutches her purse? How many whites cross the street when they see a black man walking towards them in broad daylight. Lets face it. To the whites, we're all guilty. Your attempt to be excepted by them will not work, no matter how many white azzes you kiss. You are delusional to the point of being blind.
”Deh Deh Deh, DA Dabacco”-Puert Rican dude from the ”I aint your Papi” episode of COPS.
Mandingo, I agree with your post for the most part, until you say this:
"You are delusional to the point of being blind."
Like racist thinking, ableist attitudes make us continue to use words like "blind" in a pejorative way. If you are truly committed to equality, I hope that you will find ways to talk about prejudice that don't stigmatize people with disabilities.
You, my friend, are grasping at straws. PC is not thing.
”Deh Deh Deh, DA Dabacco”-Puert Rican dude from the ”I aint your Papi” episode of COPS.
Grasping at straws? Tell that to me when you've been mocked and beaten up for being blind, been excluded from restaurants for having a guide dog, or been lost thanks to cranky bus drivers who refuse or "forget" to call out stops even though they're required to by law.
It's not about being PC, it's about not casting people as inferior. If you're so invested in being against racism, do you believe that's just a matter of objecting to assaults & killings against people of color, or do you think it also has to do with the language we use?
"every time godzilla loses to mothra I die a little bit more"--Godzillaswrath
I feel you, bro. but, if you can. could you direct me to an article or video that can back up your claim? I'm 100% sure that if a person with a disability like blindness that was assaulted would get ink or video from this new PC media.
”Deh Deh Deh, DA Dabacco”-Puert Rican dude from the ”I aint your Papi” episode of COPS.
Being beaten and getting lost were both from my personal experience, but Mark Sherry’s Disability Hate Crimes, p 8, describes an attack in 2009 on a 47 year-old blind man who was beaten unconscious. Sherry also says: “It is actually quite common for blind victims to be assaulted and robbed,” and discusses other instances. I also know someone who was burned with a cigar and robbed when the muggers realized that he was blind. You can preview it at Google books, just go to it and search for the word “blind.”
http://books.google.com/books?id=MZo3O3GLgnoC&lpg=PP1&dq=hate%20crimes%20against%20disabilities&pg=PA8#v=onepage&q=blind&f=false
Stephen Kuusisto, in Planet of the Blind, talks about being excluded from places because of his guide dog (in fact, the National Federation of the Blind itself excludes guide dog users because they believe all blind people should use white canes). He also talks about being abused and mocked for being blind.
I mean, isn’t the whole point of Bamboozled that the way we portray and talk about people affects how we treat them? And doesn’t this apply to all groups of people?
BTW, the media is far from disability-friendly, although I do see news stories about violence against people with disabilities all the time.
"every time godzilla loses to mothra I die a little bit more"--Godzillaswrath
well MAYBE if you kept your fellow Afro-Americans in line and not robbing and stealing and being generally a failure in life, us WHITE FOLK might not walk in such fear eh?
shareTrue, but engaging in the culture and accepting the white privilege...
,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams
Brian, I own some of the Little Rascals videos. I had watched them in syndication as a kid, and wanted to share them with my own kids. I had no idea what the content was that had been edited. As I sat there watching with my kids, I was as shocked as they were! However, I feel that this was a learning tool for them, to know the history of our people in American cinema. Often times one of us would say, "I can't believe somebody thought this was funny!" We have discussed the movie jokes back then and compared them with the gags in films today.
Unless you are a filmmaker from back then (and if you are, you've lived a long time!), there is nothing to feel guilty about.
-The Divine Ms Slim
"I make him an offer he no refuse"
I don't necessarily think of this movie in terms of white guilt.
I think this is what makes the movie so great. It's not just white folks who are down with degrading Blacks. It's a mix of folks. I certainly understand that whites are who gave ManTan the green light, but a whole lot of everyone contributed.
It's the same way in real life. I think Lee expertly identifies the shades of gray in between the black and white.
Don't worry about white guilt, just make sure that what caused white guilt never happens again.
shareJust watched this the other night after the Tivo picked it up. I can see how you feel guilty but why? As a white guy in my 30s that came from a poor south Dallas area I found it kinda insulting that all the white characters were basically all horrible racial stereotypes. I'm none of these things nor support them, and yet I see this movie and can't help but feel this is what African American society see in us. It has some very good points (greed/success over righteousness/virtue) and great film making but at what point is message lost in the story. At the root of this film is an accusation against whites as being at best exploiters and at worst closet racists. And worse knowing these things to be untrue, that the vast majority of whites are non-racist and only want racial equality I feel insulted to be lumped into racially stereotyped, which is exactly what this movie supposedly was a lesson in. I've really liked Lee's earlier films but this feels very bitter, very much distant from the films of hope and self-enlightenment from the 90s.
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im sorry
for some thing that I didn't do
I lynched some body but I don't know who
you blame me
for slavery
one hunderd years before I was born
guilty of being white
guilty of being white
guilty of being white
im a convict
GUILTY
of a racist crime
GULTY
ive only served
NINETEEN YEARS OF MY TIME
...and, yet. I'm sure if see a black Man behind you in line at the 7-11,you'll touch your back pocket to make sure your wallet is still there. That ”I wasn't there when all that happened” guilt trip is played out. You know good and well that all blacks are guilty of something in your head. You just don't know what it is.
”Deh Deh Deh, DA Dabacco”-Puert Rican dude from the ”I aint your Papi” episode of COPS.
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this world we are born into is very very messed up and has been for a very very long time. it's just evil. but if we are aware of this and want to change it and dedicate ourselves to doing so, maybe future generations will be proud of us for creating a much better world for them, given the crap we were dealt.
shareThat is condescending. What does you feeling guilty do to make the situation better. That's right nothing.
You didn't do anything but what type of person are you? Maybe this film enlightens you and makes you more aware, and if it does then that is something.
"I cannot teach anyone anything, I can only make them think"
Socrates