Rosamund Pike's Hair?


Does anyone know why Lady Hariet's hair at the end of the movie is cut? I haven't read the novel and wondered if her character got ill or if just was the hairstyle of the period. Thanks.

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The book makes no mention of Lady Harriet having a haircut.
I've always wondered about that myself. I think it is a wig she wears in her final scenes so it may be that Rosamund had changed the colour or style of her own hair?
A short cropped wig would have been easier to wear than a large hair wig piled up with ornaments - I think they went for that option but it does look very strange. It was certainly not a hairstyle of the period.

That's just my guess!

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Actually, it is a hairstyle of the period, known as the "titus."

It wasn't a terribly conventional hairstyle though; it was worn by very modern, chic women.

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Indeed you are correct. I had never heard of the 'titus' before, happy to learn something new about the period!

Perhaps they wanted to portray Lady Harriet as "trend-setter", being very modern and always sporting the latest fashions. Even her costumes seem very chic in comparison to the other female characters.

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Yes, and she also was still unmarried, which indicates a strong, independent spirit, imo. :-)

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I am sure the producers have it right but from what I have learned the short hair on women was from much earlier. After the French rev. women who were sad about relatives being beheaded cut their hair short and wore a red ribbon around their neck. Short hair was a passing fad. And a la titus was not common for women as it was for men. But this part of W&D takes place in early Victorian era. My guess- just a guess- is perhaps there was a sort of retro look at the time- like us wearing wedges and bellbottoms. Poor lady though as lush, thick curls were the norm later in Victorian era. (they did use extra bits like they show Hyacinth using in one part to augment their hair.)

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tamannhan : 'But this part of W&D takes place in early Victorian era'
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I think it was perhaps more the latter part of William IV's reign? Not yet Victorian - but we can allow for an overlap. At any rate, you are right about the style being more popular a little earlier in period (I think there is a portrait of Lady Caroline Lamb with such a style?), and just as other posters here say, Lady Harriet's spirited elegance and independant nature would certainly have prompted her to adopt it.

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You're right, it was in William IV's reign. The styles worn in the film were popular from about 1826 to 1833--so would have gone out of fashion by the time Victoria took the throne.

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The book takes place in the 1830s, so presumably the film does too, and this business with the hair is monstrous stretch. The 'Titus' style mentioned was a very brief fad not of that period and certainly not of country people no matter how exalted or fashionable, ergo highly unlikely to have turned up on a young woman like Lady Harriet. I think someone in the production just threw up their hands and decided that they just couldn't be bothered. It's very odd, not to mention hugely unflattering to Rosamund Pike who is a very pretty woman. I wonder even if there wasn't an element of sabotage, it's that bad.

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A-ha! Thank you for explaining that as I've been wondering about it for ages and had never heard of a 'titus'. That really shows an amazing attention to detail for the time period and character. Very impressive!

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Thanks!! I had wondered about that as well, as I've never heard of short hair coming in vogue until many decades later.

It did look rather dreadful, though, I will say.

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I'm sorry, but a la Titus was a feature of early Regency style, based on the a la victime look of the French Revolution and post-Revolution eras. Wives and Daughters features fashions from the late 1820s and early 1830s, when hair was longer and much more elaborately styled as we see throughout the series. The only people who would have worn cropped hair at that point would have been recovering from illness or possibly having been the victim of some sort of punishment for prostitution, adultery, etc. Somehow, the costume department must have crossed wires.

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I have to agree, I too was perplexed by Lady Harriet's sudden short hair, and kept wondering if it was some sort of hat, or indeed her hair! Apparently this style was the height of fashion at the time, and would be in keeping with Lady Harriet's keen style awareness.
You may have noticed some of the male characters with their hair brushed forward--also a variation of "titus", though Lady Harriet's was not so extremely forward as theirs.

I came across further info on the "Titus" hairstyle.
Scroll down to the "VICTORIAN" section:
http://www.crystalinks.com/hair2.html

Scroll down to the fourth picture:
http://www.songsmyth.com/hairstyles.html

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...appreciate that information.
I remember in the movie Persuasian (1995), Lady Russell wears her hair in that style.

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Could someone make an estimate of how many hours they had to spent every morning to get their hair like that? And how many maids they had to help them? I'm shocked every time I think of it ...

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"Could someone make an estimate of how many hours they had to spent every morning to get their hair like that? And how many maids they had to help them? I'm shocked every time I think of it ..."

I know! It would have been crazy to have always been done up like that! But a lot of it was hair pieces (there's one scene where Claire is scene braiding her little curl pieces) and wigs too.

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I wondered whether perhaps it was because of an illness and had to be cut for some reason? There is the scarlet fever scare at the end with the child so perhaps there was a deleted scene where Lady Harriet became ill and her hair was cut for whatever reason?

The change was just so sudden and strange that nothing makes sense , LOL!

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No, definitely wasn't due to an illness.

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One of the Erasmus Darwins perhaps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus_Darwin_%28disambiguation%29

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Hi FMFM! 

Perhaps you're referring to the introduction to the Penguin edition which discusses W&D as a Darwinian novel. The characters in the novel don't have to be aware of Darwinian theory; they represent examples of DT applied to English society.

The Hamleys = solid Saxon stock. Their type is dying out. If they don't make some changes, they likely won't last into the next century. Enter Roger and Molly - new thinking paired with new blood (to revitalize the Hamley line).

Also:

"Squire Hamely represents the childhood of the race" (xxv).

"the imposition of such self repression upon women fits them only for extinction" (xvii).

"the interconnection of evolutionary theory with constructions of national identity and with the empire" (xxi).





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Again, a la Titus was a hairstyle from the early years of the nineteenth century; Jane Austen, who died in 1817, complained of the fashion associated with the French Revolution's Reign of Terror in some of her letters. By the time in which Wives and Daughters is set, a la Titus would have long passed from fashion. I looked at the first link you provided and could not find the reference, which would be completely out of place for the Victorian era, as well as for this discussion, since the novel takes place during the reign of William IV.

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I think the explaination could be alot simpler. I think it was a bit of movie psychological trickery. Notice when Lady Harriet sees Molly and tells her that she is far and away the prettiest girl at the party? It is much easier to believe this with Molly standing next to the very modern thinking Harriet in a cropped and unflattering hairstyle. The hairstyle is within the period, but I think that it was done to contrast Molly's new sophicated beauty, instead of the more subtle country beauty she had been up until then. Had Harriet worn her traditional hair, Rosamond is easily the most beautiful person in the movie. Had she played the step sister role, I would not have wondered at Roger's stupidity at proposing marriage to anyone other than Molly. I think also, that she wore it to boost Molly's confidence, which she always put herself down in the company of beautiful women. Molly carried herself differently from then on, in my opinion.

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I don't know much about the psychological trickery but I think Lady H's hairstyle is a knockout.
The story period is about 1831 i.e.King William 4ths reign. If you look closely at the scene where Molly and the squire are going through Osbourne's papers, Molly comes across the birth certificate of the squire's grandson.On the top rh corner there is a date of birth: 1829, the boy looks about 2, so I'm assuming the date is near enough correct.
Having said all that, the Titus hairstyle which others have suggested it is, is way out of date.

The short haircut, named "The Titus" came out in the early 1800's and refers to
the style meant to imitate the haircut of the unfortunates then about to be guillotined during the Terror in France 1793/1794.

You are correct re Lady H being the most attractive person in the film, and her nature is attractive as well.But Molly had a rather sweet mobile look about her.
And a lovely nature.
In fact the whole was a brilliant presentation.

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Sorry, crystal71061, but your explanation seems unsatisfactory. Why would the filmmakers, who tried to get the settings, the costumes and the majority of the hairstyles right, suddenly pull such a dim-witted trick? Someone of Lady Harriet's standing would not render herself hideous merely to make her friend look prettier. Justine Waddell is just as gorgeous as Rosamund Pike, so the whole argument does not hold water. The hairstyle is not even close to the period, since it had gone out of whatever tenuous fashion it ever enjoyed nearly twenty years earlier. I have a feeling some researcher made a mistake when looking up hairstyles. There is nothing in the novel to support the filmmakers' choice of an out-of-date hairstyle. People do not love each other merely for beauty, but also for shared interests, compatible personalities, etc. Roger and Molly fit the latter bill completely.

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It is not a "dim-witted" trick to prove a plot point so efficiently, when you are resricted on time, which most movies are. Need I supply you with hundreds of examples of movie makers doing just that? Your explaination that is was a "mistake", when it is so glaringly obvious, is silly. For it to be a "mistake", you would be labeling everyone, including the actresses, stylist, and director totally unprofessional.

Lady Harriet would absolutely need to dress down to not outshine her friend of lower standing at her own party. It has little to do with their looks, but more to contrast their social standing visually. She "debased" herself several times in this movie, for Molly's sake. For example, allowing Molly put her in her place, in the carriage ride scene. Assigning her titled cousin to watch out for her, to make Roger jealous. Walking about the town, associating with Molly, to save her reputation, etc... none of which an actual Lady of her standing would do. These are all plot point advancements.

It is extremely common in movie making to translate old world sensibilities to appeal to modern ones, for example, rendering a "eligiable catch" (i.e. rich and titled) with a handsome actor. That is why you almost never see fantastically attractive actresses or actors playing kitchen maids or carriage drivers, if they are not plot central. The movie makers must somehow convey how important standing, wealth, titles, etc... visually, since most modern thinkers, like you and I perhaps DO place more importance to love and personality, than they did in an age where wealth, standing and reputation were more important, especially for women, when most could not afford to be romantic.

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