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...to try and find his mom again????!! He saw the abuse and was so greatly upset about it to begin with, and then his mom told him about how long it had been happening and how long she suffered....and yet it takes him YEARS to leave and find her?
This seem odd to anyone?
"Some laughed. He let them. His own heart laughed, and that was enough."
-A Christmas Carol
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He repeated the same situation as his mother; he was "Casanova'd" (you know what I mean), manipulated, lied to, then finally threatened, and possibly beaten, just like his mom. Like his mom, he too needed to "escape". That's what I took the ending to be.
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'But the things Bobby says to Frannie when he's dragging her around and hitting her sound like out-of-control parent to child, like "Don't talk back to me," and "I'll make sure you understand." '
'In many ways, Bobby speaks to Frannie like a child.'
Thanks for mentioning that. You know, I had kinda noticed that too! And I had wondered if anyone else did. I had been very curious about Bobby's mother's reaction to Frannie's questions. When she asked "Did Bobby's dad have a temper?" , she had the most curious reaction. Unease as she says "Sure he did. Who doesn't?"
I took that to mean either Bobby's father abused him (it almost seemed like the father did NOT physically abuse Bobby's mother) or that Bobby's mother abused him.
"Its a cross between a druid and a monk."
"You mean.....a drunk?"
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Janie Marie, I could not have said that any better. Thank you for helping us understand the abused and the abuser a little bit better. While childhood abuse is no excuse to abuse others, very often times, a person who abuses someone else has been abused himself/herself.
shareWell, in the book Frannie never hears from her son. She recieves phone calls with heavy breathing in the background, but it is never known if this is in fact Robert.
I think the ending of the movie was trying to bring some closure to the audience while staying true to the book.
theres something not right about Bobbys mother... she was evasive when Frannie asked about the abuse AND later she asked Bobby if he was gonna let that 'little irish girl get the best of him'. She was egging him on.
i took it as an accepted thing in his family that a woman has a role and thats how it goes. Its unrelated but the same thing happened in the movie Enough with Jennifer Lopez... she shows up all bruised and her husbands mother asks what she did to make him mad.
So i think i just noticed this pattern from both movies... not to mention all of the other Detectives wives and their attitudes and acceptance of their submissive roles.
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I have read the book, and while it never specifically says Bobby was beaten by his dad there are definite issues with him.
Fran mentions that Bobby would only say "My dad was some piece of work." when describing his father. He would say nothing else. That speaks volumes. I think he beat him, and his mother too. I agree with the poster that said that Bobby's mother obviously thinks that women have a role and that's what you do.
And that she definitely egged Bobby on, encouraged him to pursue his wife.
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"Didn't he discover America?"
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