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Was Pearl Harbor an inside job?


Sure seems like it.


How could they be so foolish to think Pearl Harbor wasnt a real threat? All the precautions mentioned in the movie actually made the attack more likely to succeed.


America wanted a way into the war what better way to mobilize millions of men then this "surprise" attack. Sadly and oddly enough I write this a day before the 9-11 anniversary. Extremely similar circumstances with extremely similar motives

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The conspiracy theory that FDR knew the Japanese plans and allowed Pearl Harbor to happen to get into WW2 has been so thoroughly debunked and proved just so much BS, that those that bring it up have about the same amount of intelligence as Flat Earthers, UFO nuts, 9/11 "truthers", believers in Bigfoot, Jesse Ventura... etc...


I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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just saying they knew an attack was coming. they didn't really do much of anything to prepare for it

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No that is NOT all that you were "just saying"

The plans for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor WERE NOT known in advance.

You also highly insinuated that 9/11 was also an "inside job". which should get you beat up backside the head to knock sone fraking sense into your pea brain.

What they DID know.... Was that it was very likely that Japan will attack US interests SOMEWHERE. Though no one thought an actual attack on Pearl was the most likely. The Philippines or other US holdings were seen as far more likely.
NO ONE knew specifically of the plan to attack Pearl.

Now shut the frak up with your ignorant conspiracy bullsh!t.




I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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I pretty much agree with what you stated but have to throw in a "but." There is very little on public record but it has been put out that Joseph Grew who was the US Ambassador to Japan was well aware of the Japanese government's view that moving the US Pacific Fleet in 1939 from San Diego to Oahu was tantamount to an act of war. Also, that the Japanese had no plans of abandoning expansionist plans and may very well turn to a military solution to alleviate its raw materials shortage. Not the same as knowing the specific plans to the raid on PH but Roosevelt could have been playing mental chess with the Japanese.

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That's not even a "but", really.

It's a separate issue entirely.
One I also touched upon in my follow up to the OP's reply to me.

I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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Face-palm. (Lame conspiracy theories. Arghhhh.)

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Only as long as you use dank memes to melt steel beams.

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There were certainly a lot of oddities about the PH attack, many of which are shown in this (and more realistically in "Tora! Tora! Tora!") It does seem unreal that, as Gordon Prange titled his book on PH, "at dawn we slept."

There were 3 huge congressional investigations of PH starting in 1942; there've been other investigations since the war, not to mention the thousands of pages written by private authors. Some have stated that FDR knew in advance that PH was going to be attacked; well some have also stated that Bush & Co. knew about 9/11 beforehand, and that the CIA and FBI were involved in JFK's assassination. Opinions are like the netherhole, as often stated; everyone has one, most of them stink. The point is that 75 years has yet to produce any, repeat any evidence that FDR categorically knew that PH was the target and did nothing about it.

Yep, it was a million-to-one shot that PH went off so well for Japan, that the USA reacted so sluggishly and stupidly to the information it had. The same can be said in reverse for Midway just 6 months later.

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