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'Pearl Harbor' 15th anniversary.


This epic movie deserves an epic music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGFZV3_16SU



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Sorry, it already has an epic song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsPrQgTO0HU

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indy keeps on trolling the Pearl Harbor board.

indy's been trolling the board for years.

indy must be really UNhappy.

indy has nothing else to do with with ITS life, and indy decided to go on a mission to undermine a movie and its fans.

indy, of course, fails.



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"You don't watch Michael Bay films. They happen to you."

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Looks like I've got more of a life than you have posting all your Michael Bay stuff for the past 6 months.

Btw 13 days til I get to post my next NYD message.

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Sorry, it already has an epic song.


Yep. Sure does. Sucked 15 years ago, sucks now.

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Yep. Sure does. Sucked 15 years ago, sucks now.




Thank you for sharing you completely, utterly subjective opinion with me. I, and apparently a lot of other people, strongly disagree.



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"You don't watch Michael Bay films. They happen to you."

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I, and apparently a lot of other people, strongly disagree.


Yes... there are a lot of stupid people out there with no sense of actual history, or any clue as to what is a "quality" film and would think that a film filled with a lot of unrealistic flashy effects and explosions and a horrible treatment of history would be considered "epic"

I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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Oh, here he comes again!

CGSailor!

The close-minded, snobish tool who, just like the little troll 'indy', keeps on trashing Pearl Harbor for years and years.

Do you have a life, pal? I'm serious, do you? Do you get an orgasm every time you post a negative comment on this board? You've been contaminating this board for years. Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed? Huh? I mean Jesus, you're so painfully obsessed with this movie that you can't even leave its IMDb board.

And by the way, don't you dare accusing others of being 'stupid' since you're the biggest idiot here. YOU are the one who can't seem to let go off of this movie. You're the one who's obsessed here.

So you're in NO position to judge others. Got it, fruitcake?




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"You don't watch Michael Bay films. They happen to you."

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I have never, not once, made a statement that shows me to be an "idiot"

Sadly... the same cannot be said of certain others.

Your trollish Ad Hominems mean... nothing.

I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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I have never, not once, made a statement that shows me to be an "idiot"




You don't say! Yet you're so goddamn fast to accuse those who praise the movie of being stupid idiots who know nothing about movies. Well, I like the movie a lot, and I sure as hell don't agree with your statement.

Here's why:


I actually worked for a film site for 5 years, I'm not afraid to say that I know A LOT about cinema. Way more than you, trust me. Also, I'm currently working on a short movie. Wrote the script for it and did pretty much everything on my own. AND, I like Pearl Harbor.

According to you though, I'm an idiot who knows nothing about movies. Way to go being totally wrong, pal. Way to go!


So keep underestimating people. Some day it'll come back to bite you. You can be sure.



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I actually worked for a film site for 5 years, I'm not afraid to say that I know A LOT about cinema. Way more than you, trust me. Also, I'm currently working on a short movie. Wrote the script for it and did pretty much everything on my own.



Pierre-Cedric Bonnin was a fully trained and licensed Air Transport pilot flying an Airbus A330 on a TransAtlantic flight.

Yet still he managed to make such a completley moronic move that doomed 228 people to their deaths. Even a non-pilot flight-sim junkie knows that you dont hold the controls back, trying to raise the nose when you are in a stall.
Yet this is precisely what he does for the entire plunge from flight altitude right down to ocean impact. A complete bonehead move. Absolutely nothing was physically wrong with the plane's ability to fly. It was all Bonnin.

My point being... that just because you worked on a movie website, or wrote your own script, does not mean you know WTF you're doing.





I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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My point being... that just because you worked on a movie website, or wrote your own script, does not mean you know WTF you're doing.



And you do? 

You?

A guy who spends YEARS on IMDb message boards constantly trying to undermine a movie that he thinks is not good, yet he's utterly obsessed by it. At least I do more than just talking, my friend.

At least I try to create something, instead of sitting on my ass 24/7 and criticize other people's work. You do realize that your behavior is exactly the kind of behavior that all types of artists despise, right? You bring nothing to the table, you only whine, whine, whine.

Yes, Pearl Harbor is not 100% historically accurate. We get it, we know. Does that mean the movie is worthless? Hell no.

So if you don't mind, please allow people to enjoy whatever they want to enjoy. You're not authority and your opinion is not a fact.

Might wanna keep that in mind the next time you decide to undermine another movie and its fans.



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Your characterization of me is 100% wrong and (deliberately) insulting.
You're right in that I am not an artist. I actually DO things. rather than just draw or write about things.


I also never claimed that tou ir anyone else is not allowed to enjoy the film. I enjoy a great many bad films.

There is a reason the phrase,"So bad its good" is a known phrase.

But while a bad film may be enjoyable from an entertaining point of view... it is not to be mistaken for quality.

I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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"There is no such thing as good or bad movie. Every movie is someone's favorite movie. Appreciating art is always subjective."


- Kevin Smith, on one of his many podcasts.




The fact that you, CGSailor, seem to think that a movie YOU, subjectively, think is 'bad' is actually objectively 'bad' simply goes to show that you're a close-minded, annoying film snob who lives under the impression that his own utterly subjective views on cinema are actual, cold, hard facts.


Newsflash, pal: opinions, especially those concerning art (music, films, books, games...) are NOT, I repeat, NOT facts. And the opinion of someone who loves Pearl Harbor is just as valid as your opinion. Whether you like it or not.


And just like your people (haters) use the mock-phrase "So bad it's good", my people (actual open-minded, objective film fans) use this phrase to describe people like you: 'close-minded, ignorant, disrespectful film snobs".

There you go. You have your phrases, I have mine.


So what's next?




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bumping your own thread because people stopped responding... loser tactic.


I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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Fruitcake, you're still on this planet? You didn't even respond to my last reply to YOU on this thread. You're so useless, buddy, and worst of all - you thrive on hate.


No one needs people like you. Go praise Trump or something.

FYI, people constantly bump their own threads on IMDB, boyo. So don't act like you see this thing for the first time. And, I bumped mine because I want people to see what happens when a hateful tool like you gets his ass kicked--------and because he has nothing else to say, he simply stops replying.

So who's the actual loser here, smartass?

Sure as hell ain't me.



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"You don't watch Michael Bay films. They happen to you."

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Oh, and one more thing. What's with your obsession with Michael Bay productions, my man? You claim to not like his films (yeah, right!) yet your hateful ass is always on the Pearl Harbor board and on the Last Ship board.

It's really, really ironic that you would criticize Bay for the way he handles military-type movies and TV shows, while at the same time EVERY other sane person who has any connection to the military is praising him for the respect he has for these men and women. And for the way he presents them on the screen.

Do you know how strong the relationship between Bay and the US military is? Do you even read the news? He is literally THE ONLY filmmaker in the world who gets access to some pretty serious military hardware. The support he receives from the Pentagon is unprecedented. No other filmmaker can do what he can do, as far as the military is concerned. The stuff he shows in his military-type movies, the people he's using. It's all real. Real hardware, real men and women from the military.


While we're at it, have you even seen his last movie 13 Hours? A movie that pretty much every person from the military loves. Generals, soldiers, majors have praised the movie publicly multiple times. They even used quotes from military men in the TV spots for the movie.



So again, you're on the WRONG side, CGSailor. So here's a free advice from me: don't try to undermine Michael Bay. It's not working for you. Go find some mid-level director to complain about. Bay is wayyy too big and successful at this point and MOST people dig his stuff. So whatever you say, you're not changing anything. You should've complained 25 years ago when he was just getting started. Now it's too late. Wayy too late.

Now go and watch the Transformers 5 trailer on MichaelBay.com. We both know you're excited as hell for this movie.



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It's really, really accurate that you would criticize Bay for the way he handles military-type movies and TV shows


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213149/faq?ref_=tt_faq_sm#.2.1.4

FIFY
no charge!


Cheers

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LOL
I really doubt that; no one with any sense would actually believe that.
That's why they are called trolls

People who believe the earth is flat have FAR more credibility than those who believe that Michael Bay is a quality director.


Cheers

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You are seriously hilarious, fruitcake.

You came back here, you provoke me with a short, stupid comment. Then I reply back and I ask you legitimate questions about your behavior here. You don't reply back, because you're scared. And only when a random loser comes here and "supports" your weak ass you reply. To him.

What a HUGE coward you are. Truly.

And by the way, learn the definition of a TROLL, you dumb rat. YOUR actions are trollish, as I already said. This is my thread, YOU came here and started posting negative comments. You lit the fire. And you have the nerve to call me a troll?? How stupid are you? That's a serious question.

How. Stupid. Are. You?


Reply, you coward.



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Oh, someone got deleted. Poor CGSailor. They deleted his small, stupid comment. Well, serves you right, pal. You go around, accusing others of being trolls, while YOU are the one trolling and posting negative comments all over IMDb.

The way you're going, they will probably end up deleting your entire account. You know, that's what ignorant, hateful trolls deserve. Same goes for your girlfriend here: austinman.



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Why do you post "historically inaccurate" link about this movie?

Are you blind or you're really as stupid as you sound? First, my post is about ALL Michael Bay movies. Second: ALL Hollywood movies dealing with history are "historically inaccurate". Third: I clearly stated that Bay gets pretty serious praise from people from, or with connections to the military, but you conveniently ignored that. I wonder why? 




Come on smartass, why don't you try to "defeat" everything I stated? Let's have ourselves a discussion.

Oh wait, I forgot. People like you are rats. Useless rats. You have NO arguments, you enter discussions about stuff you know nothing about. And when someone calls you out you run like a little bitch. Just like that utter loser CGSailor.


I am actually very, VERY well-informed on the matter of Michael Bay films. I've been following his career for 20 years. I know a person from his stunt team who has worked with him for years. Yes, you better believe it. I know why people criticize him, I know why people praise him. I've had many, many discussion about Bay with smart people and with dumb, ignorant people like you. In short, I know what I'm talking about. So think twice before posting on my threads about Bay movies. I've seen morons like you left and right here. You're nothing new, trust me.

Best thing for you to do: go back to the Politics board and keep your ignorant ass there.

Cheers!


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Wow, talk about obsessing over Bay films. I show up for a peek every 3 or 4 months and I'm obsessed?

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Being educated on the matter is not being obsessed. You may think that only dumb kids post here, but you're mistaken. As I said, I've been following Bay's career for over 20 years. His first flick made me interested in cinema. Subsequently I got to work for a film site for 5 years and now I'm working on my first short film. So yes, his style, his movies, videos and commercials are important to me. Sorry to break it to you, but not all serious film fans are inspired by Kubrick and Kurosawa.


As for this place, my replies on this thread may seem harsh, but keep in mind how these two people responded to this thread. As for you indy, we both know how much time you've spend on this board. And how much you like to pop-up from time to time and leave yet another negative comment. We've been here before, you and I. You don't even remember how many times we argued here.

And what do you know? We're both here again. While at the same time the rating for the movie - a movie you claim to be DA WORST EVA - keeps getting higher and higher. Remember when it was like 5.3 a few years back? Well, now it's over 6.0, which simply goes to show that more people have discovered the movie, or re-watched it, and they ended up liking it or loving it even more.

And that's good news for people like me. And bad news for people like you. Again, you are allowed to hate the movie all you want. Just accept the fact that A LOT of other people DO like the movie and that their opinions are just as valid as the opinions of those who trash it.



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Your repeated, nonsensical, yammerings reinforced my argument better than I ever could.
Thanks!

People who believe the earth is flat have FAR more credibility than those who believe that Michael Bay is a quality director.



Cheers

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Nice one, knucklehead.



Avoiding everything I said, all the legitimate questions I asked, everything. You really have no idea why are you even here, do you? I think you're lost. The Justin Bieber board is over there, boyo.


By the way, you're doing me a huge favor with this reply.

Proving yet again that you are a complete and utter tool who can't participate in a discussion even if his miserable life depended on it. Do the world a favor and, as I already said, kick your empty head. At least 20 times. Hard.

And don't EVER insert your hateful comments in discussions you know nothing about. Mmmkay?


Have a happy new year, worm! Thanks for the entertainment and most importantly, thanks for being so easy. So, so easy and useless. As of now your services are no longer required.

Cheers.



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Avoiding everything I said, all the legitimate questions I asked, everything.


You have no legitimacy, that was postulated in my 1st post & reinforced by your own ceaseless, nonsensical yammerings.

My purpose here was clearly to mock you. I have the same level of interest in debating you than i would debating a anti-vaxer or a flat-earther. Your only real function in life is to amuse me.

The sad thing is that you've spent more time defending this dreck then Bay did in researching it.

The hopeful thing is that all the mental problems that you're currently clearly experiencing can be managed with counseling and proper medication.


You don't watch Michael Bay films. They happen to you - similar to dysentery.


Cheers

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Mr. Intelligence, I do believe the intelligent thing to do might've been to simply ignore the user's recent response and try not to be more serious if you desired to compose another message.

Just the same, for someone who apparently knows more about good filmmaking and history it's a wonder why you aren't in the business of making films for mainstream media and instead are trashing a 16 year old film by a guy you've never met before. Considering where that person is right now making billions and you're here online making fun of people it begs the question of how strong your levels of lazy are.

Cheers.

COOKIES AND MILK!-Ed

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You have no legitimacy



Says who? Where's that data? Where's the IMDb book of legitimacy? Who decides who on IMDb has legitimacy? You?

You? A complete, total idiot that others here are making fun of? You need a serious reality check, worm. Look around the threads here, look how much the others 'love' you.

You are seriously hilarious. In a very pathetic kind of way.



that was postulated in my 1st post & reinforced by your own ceaseless, nonsensical yammerings.



Of course that a useless, fat and probably quite smelly web worm like you would consider my comments "ceaseless, nonsensical yammerings'. I wouldn't expect a different reaction from you. Thank you for constantly making my point. CGSailor is at least able to have *some* sort of understanding and discussion skills. You on the other hand are utterly, hilariously useless, in every sense of the word.

And no, it's not that you don't WANT to have a discussion. You simply CAN'T. You're scared, you're too weak, you know that facts are against you, you know I'm well prepared on the matter and you gonna lose. So don't put a brave face on, we all know you're full of *beep* Also, your post history clearly shows that you act this way on other boards as well. In short, you're one hateful, angry little worm that deserves to get his ass kicked big time. Act that way in real life and see what happens.



My purpose here was clearly to mock you.



Huh? Wut? Are you feeling okay, worm?

Mock me?? Where's that mock? And do I seem bothered, in any way shape or form, by your, ahem, *attempts* at mocking? Do you see me running away and not replying back?

Newsflash, trollish clown. You're not the first troll I've encountered here. I've had so much fun with idiots like you that it's almost too good to be true. And guess what: they've ALL ended up leaving the boards they were trolling for good. Because I know very well how to handle hateful trolls like you. If you really think you have the upper hand here, you're in for some big surprises. Look up my post history, look how successfuly I'm dealing with others like you, and think again if it's a good idea for you to........"mock" me.

"Mock" me...I'm still laughing at that, worm. Seriously. You really are quite delusional. 




The sad thing is that you've spent more time defending this dreck then Bay did in researching it.



I know, right?? He should give me money for that! I'm going to tweet him right now!

Still, what I defend here doesn't take away the fact that you are a complete moron with no discussion skills whatsoever. So, worry about you being the clown that you are, don't worry about me and what I defend. Got it, fruitcake?



The hopeful thing is that all the mental problems that you're currently clearly experiencing can be managed with counseling and proper medication.



Translation:

"Ï, the smelly IMDb punching bag austinman, consider the people who like this movie and can properly defend their position with actual facts, numbers, quotes and well-balanced arguments, to be mentally challenged.

In other words I have no respect for different opinions, I disrespect others on a daily basis, I live in my own twisted little world where I'm the one who's always right and I simply refuse to (even try to) understand the other side. I'm an ignorant, angry, very hateful snob who can't have a normal discussion on any matter even if my miserable little life depended on it. Instead, I desperately try to act all tough and kewl, hoping that it would cover my complete and utter lack of discussion skills. Or any other social skills for that matter."

End of translation.


Cheers.



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