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A.I.'s MOST Difficult Critiques and Questions


These aren't all complaints, some are just general questions:

1. At the beginning, the narrator says that "robots do not consume resources beyond those of their first manufacture". This simply does not make any sense; robots would use comparable amounts of energy to humans.
2. Why was Henry never imprinted?
3. Why is Henry so quick to turn on the project?
4. When David is having his insides fixed, he tells Monica "It's okay, Mommy - it doesn't hurt", but then feels pain later when Martin's friends press a cake cutter against his skin.
5. How is David waterproof? His mouth is clearly connected to his insides, as seen when he ate spinach, so how does water not get in there?
6. Teddy proposedly helped David write messages for Monica, but some of them are saying that "Teddy isn't real" and that he "hates Teddy". So did Teddy really help David? Or if he did, why is David so hostile towards Teddy?
7. Why did Monica and Henry immediately resort to abandoning David, rather than finding out why he is doing what he is doing? Why didn't they consult Cybertronics to get the kinks sorted out? Since Monica and Henry are actually supposed to be doing in-house testing for David, why aren't Cybertronics making regular inspections anyways?
8. Why is teddy mistaken for a "dog" by one of the staff at the Flesh Fair?
9. How can it be possible that David is the first child robot? All the years of robots, and no one else has thought of making a child?
10. Why does Joe take David to Dr. Know? Is there no internet or libraries in this future?
11. At Rouge City, why do the police not chase David or Gigolo Joe who have just stolen their police amphibicopters?
12. Why is the Cybertronics office all the way in Manhattan, when at the beginning it was in New Jersey?
13. Why does Dr. Hobby leave David alone in his current state of mind? Why doesn't he bring David to the team, rather than the other way around? What takes Dr. Hobby so long to get back anyways?
14. Isn't it a bit too coincidental that Coney Island just so happens to be where David committed suicide (coincidently at the Cybertronics building)?
15. Why do the police take Joe but not David? Why do they not chase after David who submerges underwater with their police amphibicopter?
16. How does the amphibicopter not crush from the ferris wheel or the increased pressure when the ice feezes?
17. How was David never discovered in those 2,000 years? Surely as soon as Dr. Hobby found David missing, they would go to the most likely spot which is the Coney Island adjacent to their offices.
18. Since when can you go from global warming to ice age in just 2,000 years?
19. Why did the SuperMecha not simply de-program David?
20. Joe tells David “You saved my brain”, and David tells Dr. Hobby “My brain is falling out” – but they do not have brains?
21. Why does Monica believe that she has been stabbed in the eye with the scissors when it quite clearly made no contact?
22. What is the implication of the german references "Das ist gut" (one of the boys from Martin's party) and the "Techno Erotishe, Zu Vermeten, Liebesroboter" (one of the signs at rouge city)?
23. What is the implication of the statue that Joe dances next to at Rouge City? It looks like a deformed human, but what does it actually mean and imply for the movie?
24. Who is this child's face (seen in orange) at the Flesh Fair? What does it mean?! http://gyazo.com/eed481d81fcf5d829fb93323e0659e96

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I'll try and answer some how I believed it.

2. I presume more because he was for Monica??
3. Cliche father/husband against the story device.
4. Because this time he knows it is to help, and not to hurt.
5. Maybe a safety feature when it comes to water? Maybe they can play in water to seem more real, just can't eat.
7. Because of the imprint. They said could never be taken back. And he scared them.
8. Because stupid.
9. A child robot has to start somewhere. Robots were more for help around the house, or sexual activities.
10. Because maybe due to when film was made and planned, internet and mobile phones were not as big as they are now. Plus he used any excuse to get to Rouge City to find women.
12. Because it has to be somewhere.
13. See some of the theories other people have put down, I've put one down myself yesterday.
14. Is Coney supposed to be a place where people kill themselves?
16. I believe as it's underwater, it stopped the momentum as much.
18. Because the world is unpredictable.

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Cheers for your answers!

4. I don't understand, do you mean: because the the engineers are helping to fix David, he does not feel the pain? Surely this does not make any sense, as even if someone operates on you to "fix" you, it can still hurt.
10. I thought that it was likely something to do with how we are commercialising society - even information is coming at a cost.
12. But Hobby distinctly says that they are at the Cybertronics of New Jersey at the beginning, so why did they change location?

I've responded to your other thread (Y)

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Yeah for 4. Just that because the engineers are helping to fix David, he does not feel the pain. He knows it is good.

In my multiple viewings I have not even noticed he said it was in New Jersey in the beginning. Probably because I am transfixed by the entire wonderful opening to take notice of it. Haha. Maybe the Manhatten one is just another branch?

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The movie does provide answers to a lot of these questions, like another poster said. For example, #4: David feels no pain during the operation because a robot's pain receptors can be turned off.

We know this because during the Flesh Fair, one robot asks another one: "Would you be so kind as to turn off my pain receptors?" The other robot simply opens a panel, flicks the right switch or wire and it's done.

At the pool David's pain receptors would have been turned on.

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9. A child robot has to start somewhere. Robots were more for help around the house, or sexual activities.


Hate to say it, but in the real world that's hardly an argument against child-like robots.
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Wow.. Who has the time to answer all of these questions? I sure don't. But I was very frustrated reading them because most of them can be answered if you just pay attention to the movie.
It's not a mystery.

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In other words, you are frustrated because you do not know the answers to these questions. It is ok. And no, certainly #1, #4, #5, #6, #8, #10, #11, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #20 were not answered by the film. I don't believe that you have watched the film, have you?

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Yes, they were answered.

I didn't watch the film once. I watched it over 15 times over the course of years. It's something I look at a few times a years, then follow up with Minority Report. If you don't like the film, that's fine.


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I am afraid that you are simply very incorrect. All of the questions that are marked in red are simply not explained in the film (even the ones marked in green are not absolute, it's just that I have created my own interpretations which may explain them). I have also watched this film numerous times this year, and hence why I have resorted to posting a thread seeking help regarding these questions.

If you honestly think that these questions are easily answered in the film, please respond with the solutions as I (and many others) can't seem to find the answers that you possess. Of course I am very sure that you will not respond, as I know that you do not have the answers. You are unfortunately all talk and no substance.

I look forward to your response, even though I very much suspect that I shall be waiting for 2,000 years just as David did.

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There is a very simple solution: Open your mind, re watch the film, and pay attention.

You're welcome.


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My point exactly; you do not know the answers, and therefore choose to evade the questions.

You quite clearly have no solutions, as you would simply post them otherwise. No one who knows the answers would go through this much trouble to not post them. Your pathetic answer of "rewatch it" only further supports how you clearly do not know and just want to incessantly defend your ridiculousness.

Stop wasting my time with your idiocy - either you have the answers, in which case share, or leave this thread and stop trying to convince people that you are more intelligent than you are. I urge you to answer just one of the questions, but of course even this would be too much for someone who has just been talking rubbish the whole time.

At this point I don't even expect you to respond, let alone with an actual answer. You have quite clearly created a very big hole for yourself.

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If you watch the film and actually pay attention, everything you've questioned will be answered. But you probably have a short attention span and can't watch anything with a running time in excess of three minutes.


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I love how this is really the best response you can come up with.

Answer question 24.

You obviously don't understand the film I'm afraid; get over yourself. You are quite clearly nothing more than a troll.

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It is the only response you will get as it is the only response you need.

If anyone is trolling, it is you.

And thank you for wasting your time in responding to me with predictability.


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Are you going to sit here and imply that question number 24 is answered in the movie?

Everyone else has had the decency of making an attempt to answer the questions, yet the one who claims that they have the knowledge does not want to reveal it.

What is it that you want for me to do for you to impart your wisdom? I have watched the movie countless times, and the list that I have compiled are the questions that have baffled me. I have gone back and re-watched it to try and figure them out, but I have unfortunately lead to a dead end and so as a result posted here. A.I. is one of my favourite movies, but this does not make it exempt from criticism. In-fact, I am not even trying to criticise A.I. (why would I?), I want to come to grips with these questions so that I have no critiques. What is wrong with that?

You come to a thread devoted to discussing A.I., and then embark that you have solutions for the movie but will not share because I should watch it again. Unfortunately this is not the solution (for me), as I have *genuinely* done this. Perhaps I am just stupid, which we must assume so, but is this a reason to not answer the questions - because I am stupid? Please help me less stupid! Lol.

So I have done what you have requested, but I still unfortunately do not have the solutions (and is in fact why I posted the thread in the first place). Now could you *please* help me? Can each of us please share a civil discussion of AI? I'm actually genuinely interested to hear your thoughts, as a lot of these are thoughts - interpretations and not absolute facts. Thanks.

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You are so invested in minutia. I've come here to discuss AI; you have come here to troll.

Stop wasting your time. You must have other boards to troll.


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Yes! Finally a confession; you don't know the answers! Thank you very much, now we can move on. Good day, sir.

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Aside from being a troll, you are delusional. You're not even an entertaining troll.


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Another confession?! Wow-wee, must be a good day for Dr. Don't Know!

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How sad about your nano-second attention span. ELL OH ELL.


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Oh wow you're still going on? Please stop; three confessions now are more than enough to satisfy me. Go troll in another website where they will cater for your non-discussing of movies.

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Too, too funny, troll. ELL OH ELL.


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Stop going on; four confessions is a bit excessive now - I'm starting to think you're just doing it to keep me happy. Go troll someone else's thread about how you don't want to discuss a film on a film website.

Confirmed: One does not have to delve very far into your IMDB history to see that you are the biggest troll on this website. What a waste of time and space you are. EL OH EL.

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Transference. ELL OH ELL


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What? Give up mate.

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Haha stop harping on - you are quite seriously the dumbest person I have met on IMDB. You do not have the intellect to answer one of these questions of AI. Go back to discussing politics on a movie website.

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Are you two a married couple? This would be a great meet-cute for a romantic comedy spin-off of AI.

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Also a lot of them are just dumb. Like why doesn't a Ferris wheel crush an amphibicopter? Seriously?! Lol
Do YOU know what those copters are made of? Do you know the exact force needed to crush a futuristic amphibicopter?
It's like saying why doesn't Dorothy's house break apart when it lands in Oz?
WHO FREAKING CARES?! It's a fantasy sci-if movie. You don't pick apart every little thing you just watch and ejoy.

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Your answer is beyond the realms of argument, so I'll accept it. Have a go at the other 19. You are on a forum devoted to discussing A.I., don't get the ass just because you can't defend certain questions to do with the film. A.I. is one of my favourite films, but that does not mean it is exempt from any criticism (or what I am trying to find out is, which were intentional by the director and what were their meanings).

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No one has to defend why they like a film, especially when the questions you've asked are answered . . . simply by watching the film and paying attention. It's a fairy tale for adults.


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15. they take joe because he's wanted for murder. the police found the dead girl in the hotel who he was meeting before going on the run. they don't take david because he's not wanted for anything.

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David is a rogue mecha which is illegal if I remember correctly (or at least is the means by which The Flesh Fair are allowed to operate on you). But further, David stole a police amphibicopter back at Rogue City. The only conclusion that I have come to is that either the police thought David was a real boy, OR the film was metaphorically suggesting that David was not picked up by the magnet because he has become more than mecha (metal), but actually orga.

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7. Why did Monica and Henry immediately resort to abandoning David, rather than finding out why he is doing what he is doing? Why didn't they consult Cybertronics to get the kinks sorted out? Since Monica and Henry are actually supposed to be doing in-house testing for David, why aren't Cybertronics making regular inspections anyways?


At the end when he meets Hobby he explains to him that the whole thing was a setup. They wanted them to abandon David so that they could see how he would fare on his own and if he would develop dreams and follow them.







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I have often thought about that as being the solution, but the more that I think about it I'm afraid I don't sit well with that proposition. It was only by chance that David was abandoned. The circumstances that led to David's exclusion from his family was an accumulation of unlikey events. Consider when his Damage Avoidance System was activated. This was not activated in intent of Martin being almost drowned, so that Henry and Monica would have an excuse to get rid of David. No, far from it, what actually happened was that the unfortunate circumstances (which was not in any way planned by Cybertronics or Henry and Monica) led to Henry convincing Monica that they need to get rid of David. I would perhaps accept that Henry, being an employee of Cybertronics, was perhaps in on the plan of getting rid of David (so that he would embark on a quest), but the decision was still up to Monica (and so she could have still decided to have kept him). Anyways, when she is driving David to his expulsion, she hastily decided to not have him returned to cybertronics, but to abandon him instead. Therefore David's abandonment was by sheer chance, any other circumstances could have led to David being either returned to Cybertronics and deactivated, or just not left the family home at all.

All that Dr. Hobby explained was that they were observing David from afar, and that they only intervened at Dr. Know. So my question very much still stands unfortunately. I like the idea and I think that it seems very plausible at first glance, but unfortunately it seems to raise more questions that it answers... =/

Cheers for the response

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12. Why is the Cybertronics office all the way in Manhattan, when at the beginning it was in New Jersey?

My guess is they wanted to make the location as obscure as possible to see if David would succeed in finding it.







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Branching of your idea: I guess they were testing to see if David would go to the end of the world (Manhattan) to fulfil his programming. Or in other words, David's love for Monica is so strong that he would *literally* go to the end of the world to find her.

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6. Teddy proposedly helped David write messages for Monica, but some of them are saying that "Teddy isn't real" and that he "hates Teddy". So did Teddy really help David? Or if he did, why is David so hostile towards Teddy?

David had begun to pick up that he was being seen as different than Martin and he wanted to differentiate himself from being mecha or a toy like Teddy so he makes these statements to help do so.






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I understand that David is asserting his humanity, but why does Teddy (who proposedly helped David write these letters) allow such words to be said about himself? Further, why is Monica oblivious, such that she calls the letters "beautiful", disregarding David's very clear schizophrenia, lol!

The letters say

“DEAR MOMMY, HOW ARE YOU REALLY, DO YOU LOVE ME AS MUCH”
“DEAR MOMMY TEDDY IS HELPING ME WRITE TO YOU I LOVE YOU AND TEDDY”
“DEAR MOMMY I LOVE YOU AND HENRY AND THE SUN IS SHINING”
“DEAR MOMMY GUESS HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU”
“DEAR MOMMY I’M REALLY OUR SON AND I HATE TEDDY HE IS NOT REAL LIKE”
“DEAR MOMMY I’M YOUR LITTLE BOY AND SO IS MARTIN BUT NOT TEDDY”

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I understand that David is asserting his humanity, but why does Teddy (who proposedly helped David write these letters) allow such words to be said about himself?

Well, you were asking why did David do this and not why Teddy's allows it. But who knows Teddy's programming. Perhaps they programmed him to be loyal to his "owner" no matter how they treated him.






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1. At the beginning, the narrator says that "robots do not consume resources beyond those of their first manufacture". This simply does not make any sense; robots would use comparable amounts of energy to humans.

You just have to go with the story on this one. Since this is a fictional future account we do not know what type of energy source the mecha use. For all we know they have discovered a way to fuel them simply by using the gravity force of the Earth. It's a sci-fi so you just have to take their word for it.








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It is annoying but I think that I will have to accept this, in the same sense that I do not know the physics of the amphibicopter in the other question =/ Ta

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