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Why is the Epilogue hated so much?


I've just finished watching Season 2 for the first time in several years, and I have to ask why the Epilogue is so despised. True, Yamato's and Sora's careers were just , and a picture of Hikari on the job would have been nice, but I had no problem with it otherwise. I seriously thought to Myself: "This is one of the most hated things in the Digimon cannon?" I'll admit that I had a small sigh for Takeru and Hikari, but I got over it because they were twelve when last seen, and they were obviously still friends. Is it mostly the ships?

Why does such a heartwarming ending, one that gave me a lump in my throat, feel the heat?


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Personally to me, it just seemed lazy. Like we have to end this, lets do it the quickest way possible. I'm not a big fan of the Frontier, but I'd take that over 02 any day.

02 of Digimon had so much potential but it lags behind 01. I felt 02 also started to get a really big build up around 10 episodes prior to the epilogue, and I was actually really getting into it, but then it gets to the last episode and I kind of just think "really, that was it?"

I'm no writer so I can't really say where it falls flat with its audience though.

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I'll admit that the ending of the actual story was a bit clumsy (although I liked the fact that it wasn't just this big battle), but it was the epilogue's simplicity that had me wondering why it gets so much hate. It showed us more than it told us (at least in the original), and it touched me alot. Maybe I'm being overly sentimental, but it saddens me to think of fans insisting that such a beautiful scene didn't happen just because they didn't like one career choice, or vomiting all over it with infidelty fantasies.

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I rewatched it to try and understand where my dislike for the final episode stems from, for me I don't think it was so much the epilogue. It was more death by dreams, hope and emotions. I think it was beyond corny, even as a kid I didn't like it, I guess I felt it was quite dumbed down.
I get your logic about the career choice and vomiting all over the fantasies though.

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I had no problem with Vamdemon being weakened by all the light, but when the children pulled his body parts off by saying what their career aspirations were, I didn't know whether to or

That said, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's fine with the epilogue

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i hated the epilogue because so many of the digidestined's careers turned out so wrong. sora shouldn't have been a designer, that should have been mimi. matt should have been in music either as an artist or a producer. tai should have been in soccer as a player or a coach, maybe a trainer. joe, izzy, and cody all make sense, while yolei sorta makes sense, ken i suppose makes sense seeing how smart he was. davis i don't really care about but his didn't make much sense either. tk i think would have made sense to have been the united nations diplomat for the digital world instead of tai. kari made sense because her personality fit for that.

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I would have made Taichi a high profile Soccer Coach, Yamato a Music Producer, and Sora a Sports Gear Designer, but none of the other career choices were jarring to me.

If I'm going to be really honest, I wish that the Tamers and Frontier characters had been given epilogues >ducks< Were Takato, Rika, and Henry reunited with their partners? Were any other kids in the Frontier universe given powers? What careers did they persue? Did they have children? I know that I'm almost certainly a lone stickybeak in this respect, but I felt the later characters were shortchanged by the "one season to a continuum" format.

Sorry to waffle on. You sparked a line of thought

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i agree they should have had an epilogue for the other seasons, it would have been nice to know what happened to all of them, especially henry and koji. i wish they would have done 2 seasons per cast, not just with the first two seasons. rika probably married ryo. since i was voting for her and henry, i didnt like when he showed up and cancelled any chance of that.

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I live in hope of another two season continuum, and epilogue.

Until then we can always pretend...Even if it isn't the same as having some cannonical juice.

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I think for me it wasn't so much the ending I got it I was a little shocked with the whole careers thing like many i would have thought tai to be a soccer player and matt something with music. But it was the whole fact of having the 3rd season come on and it all being fake and a cartoon.I liked 1st and 2nd season the best it had the original characters and then they added new ones. then 3rd season comes along and i tried to get into i even watched it til the end and it dispointed me. It made saturday mornings less enjoyable. I was thinking maybe 3rd season would have had their children in it rather than new characters completely. But then they made it confusing so many people were left thinking if the 1st and 2nd season was all a cartoon to the 3rd season cast why do they have a teacher in there that sounds and looks like Kari?? so over all i liked the ending it was 3rd season that destroyed everything but that is my opinion on the subject. =)

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I agree. I liked a good number of things about season 3, but one big problem for me was Digimon existing as it does for us. I have no problem with the concept of a new continuum, but I didn't like it being done that way. I also didn't like it how Digimon that had been in the first two seasons showed up (don't get me started on Patamon and Salomon appearing in Frontier) As for the concept of season 3 focusing on the original characters' children, that would have made for an interesting lack of division between the two worlds, but I feel that it would have made things too crowded from a cast perspective. Even Adventure 02 was pushing it, in the eyes of some fans. I'm not attacking you there, just putting my own two cents in

P.S: That teacher was so like Kari that I cringed when she confusedly said "That was no Pigeon" after Devidramon swooped over the top of her



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I do think that it's mostly about the shipping.

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People didn't like the shipping and felt it was insane everybody didn't follow a career path based on their interests when they were teenagers.

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I'm aware of the things people didn't like, I just don't understand how those things ruin the scene so much.

I didn't agree with every career choice, and I did found it annoying how Yamato and Sora were practically shot by cherub arrows, but I loved seeing the Chosen Children living happy adult lives.


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I guess it's the fact that there was little to no build-up for any of the pairings they showed and, yeah, that the careers didn't seem to fit their established personalities. It felt like the writers just didn't put much thought into it and just threw the ideas out there without writing to back it up. Eplogues of this sort (the Happily Ever After kind) tend to be cheesy as well, in my opinion.

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That's pretty much what I now think about the epilogue.

I had tolerated the weirdness regarding pairings and careers, for the sake of the big picture, but I've come to realise that there was a lot of unintentional horror involved in the combining of the digital world and the human world. I think it would have been much better if the partner digimon had became unable to stay in the human world, but remained possible to visit in the digital world. It would have been more emotionally mature without being too cruelly tragic.

That all said - I still love the concept of finding out about everyone's Children and careers.

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I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it.
I had no issue with the kids career's. It's stupid to think what you do at 10-12 years old will reflect what you do when you're an adult. You grow up, that's the whole point.
The shipping, or the relationship match ups, those had less of a pay-off too. I think that upset people. Still, it falls back to the career. It might have been really weird to have a bunch of them pair up. Cause, they're kids, why would they end up with someone?
It'd have been too fairy tale.

I didn't like the jump ahead, but, I guess if they were done with the series, they might as well have. I'd rather have seen a season 3 in that universe. Tamers ended up growing on me though. I was just sad to see it end really.

Though, everyone on earth has a digimon, that was a groan worthy moment. I liked at the end of season 1, they need to bring things back to normal. It kept the series grounded. It's still an anime, but it was pretty down to earth for the most part. The digimon went home, and earth got back to normal.
The season 2 ending, it was like "then the world became pokemon" It was just kind of dumb.

I still think it was mostly satisfying though. I was fine with how all the kids grew up, and they got to keep their digimon partners.

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Thanks for your thoughts.

In regards to the careers, you make a very good point about our lives not being set when we're fourteen. I guess what bothered me about some of the job choices was that they were gimmicky. It made me cringe to see Gabumon in a space suit, but then that's forgivable from a program targeted at children.

I agree with you entirely on the shipping issue. It's rare to marry someone you knew when you were eleven, so I'm glad some restraint was employed there. This obviously left alot of shippers feeling dissatisfied, but it still depresses me that some people need to write domestic violence fanfiction and stick comments over screencaps. Someone must be pretty emotionally lost if a snippet of information is worth losing that much of their time over.

Your opinion on the world becoming Pokemon is interesting. I was left with the impression that, apart from the digimon, the world was pretty much the same as it had always been. Sure that scene was incredibly rosy, but it was a special occasion.

The "everyone has a digimon" thing was too much, but it was a dub fart if I recall correctly.

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I'm pretty sure everyone in the world having a partner is in the original as well. In the other case, a mass amount of people having one is a big deal too. What I mean by the world becoming pokemon is, the world has to be different. Even if it's the same, there's not a big change in it. There's now these entirely new creatures walking about all the time with powers and things. It's not regular old earth anymore.

That's why I liked the season 1 ending, is the digimon stayed in the digital world. So, before season 2, I assumed they grew up and lived normal lives. Then season 2 happens. The end of season 2, the epilogue shows digimon on earth. That was bothersome to me. It just didn't feel like it added anything. It was just a tacked on thing at the end. Also, they already did a good bye in season 1 so they went a different route. I guess there's not many options really.

I still like that they showed what they did with these digimon as they got older. I'm not trying to come out against. Cause, it was the end of the show, so it doesn't really matter too much.

I think I may want to take back what I said about shipping though. It's realistic to keep them separate. So, you got 4 girls and 8 guys, doesn't mean any of them will end up together. Then again, this is a TV show with missile shooting monsters, why not have 4 pairings? They basically lifted the show off the ground already. Based on what you said, it seems like it would have been more satisfying to people to have more pairings. I'm not into that myself. I don't care who Tai or Mimi ends up with. Still, it doesn't take away from the show to do it. I don't care, means, it could have been Mimi and Joe, or Tai and Sora, I would not have cared. To someone else, that may have meant a great deal. I think, then, they should have done it. People would probably still have issues with the results, but it probably would have fulfilled more people.

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I couldn't find the video I needed (Japanese with English subtitles), but I'm quite sure the "Everyone has a digimon" thing was a dub fart. Koshirou, Mimi, Hikari and Iori all had children of the opposite gender with lower forms of their partner digimon. I know that isn't concrete evidence, but it's satisfying enough for me.

I agree that that having the digimon around would make things fairly different, but I still don't feel think it became too much like Pokemon. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that. Either way, We agree that having another goodbye ending in the same continuum wouldn't have been a good move. It would have been uncreative.

I see your point about it not being crucial to show some retraint with the shipping, but that realism was what made it feel different to Pokemon for me. It might also have lessened the ugliness. Would you want either Koshirou or Jyou to marry Mimi and, as a result, get the hate Yamato does? That's only rhetorical btw. I'm not bashing you.

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"Koshirou, Mimi, Hikari and Iori all had children of the opposite gender with lower forms of their partner digimon. I know that isn't concrete evidence, but it's satisfying enough for me"

How is that all evidence? I don't understand your reasoning, actually I don't see any reasoning. I'm sorry, but that means absolutely nothing to what we've been talking about. That makes no sense at all. I'm sorry, but you have no proof of it being a bud edit other than your own suggestion. Besides my point that, a vast amount of people having digimon is still world altering, whether it's the whole world or not. You're looking too much into what I said. I didn't mean it literally became the pokemon world. I can tell I'm not talking to someone who is thinking clearly anymore. You're not listening to or making sense anymore.

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I have been nothing but civil to you. I have complimented you on your posts and been respectful of your views so I don't know why you felt the need to write that wounding last reply to me.

I looked for proof that the "Everbody has a digimon line" wasn't in the Japanese version. I did five Youtube searches, but couldn't find the right video. I admitted to my lack of concrete evidence. Why hold it against me? You haven't produced any evidence. While we're on that issue, I was rebutting what you said about the "Everybody has a digimon" line when I bought up those four children and I'm giving you another opportunity to work out how. Think about it laterally. I'm sure you can...

As for the combined world and how close to Pokemon it was, I admitted that having digimon around would make life quite different. Why do I still need convincing? I also don't see how I was taking your Pokemon description literally. I wasn't saying "But the digimon weren't fought for sport" or anything like that. I was just saying that the epilogue didn't feel like Pokemon to me. If it did to you then that's fine. We can agree to disagree. I said that in my previous post.

I'm going to be brutally honest here. Never has someone on the internet made me feel so bad about myself - ever. Alot of care went into my replies so I was deeply hurt by your comments about me not thinking clearly or understanding you. I don't mind being asked what I mean (I'm not great with words), but I do mind being dismissed as having no reasoning. Why couldn't you just ask and tell rather than dismissing and lying? Why did you have to be so horrible to me? I don't know what I wrote to deserve such a belittling attitude.

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Just ignore me

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This discussion is over.

I had a correction, an explanation and a small admission of fault for you, but if you're going to be so churlish then I owe you nothing. You are hurting my feelings by assuming me to be an idiot who's thinking complete rubbish, and it leaves me feeling so terrible about myself that I don't want to go on with this. I have better things to do with my life than be made to feel like crap. I can take no more of your churlish and misguided comments.

I'm glad you want me to forget this because I do too.
Life's too short.

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I don't want you feeling terrible about yourself, that's why I told you to ignore me. I'm just some random dude on the internet, wtf do I know?

Is there anything I can do to make you feel better?

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I chose my words badly when I said that I felt terrible about myself, bt your comments were still hrtful due to your tactlessness. I'm sure you're a decent and intelligent person. You just need to realise the difference between "You're not thinking clearly" and "Can you elaborate on this please", "You're not understanding me" and "What I meant by that was...". The latter word choices are much healthier for a forum discussion and will not leave people wanting to ignore you.

You don't need to do anything in order to make me feel better. i just hope you don't feel that you can't voice your opinion on the internet. It is acceptable and you are entitled to it. Different wording is all you need.

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Now you're giving me advice on wording? I don't care, I offered you a way to make amends, and this is what you do? I stand by what I said, you make no sense, you are daft.
Here's my advice to you. Grow thicker skin or get off the internet.

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I am very thankful that you offered a way to make amends and I'm sorry if I didn't convey that well. I hold nothing against you (I should have responded in a better way)and I gave you that advice with the best of intentions. It was sincere. You wrote nothing unacceptable and I commend you for the fact that wording is the only thing you have to be more careful about. There is absolutely no shame in that. Noone is perfect and everyone who goes on the internet has made a mistake. I've made quite a few during this discussion.

I'm sorry if advice equals bitterness to you.

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For how epic season 2 was, I definitely felt let down at the end. I remember being younger and thinking...that's it? I watched TK grow up from the runt of the group to a grown man and this is how he turns out?

I agree with an earlier poster, he should have been the "Digi-diplomat" He was always the most caring. And my personal favorite, although Davis and Veemon will always have an advantage because I had every toy of every form. I sure did love those digivolutions!

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While I can understand having Takeru write the books, I agree that he would have made a very good diplomat.

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Whats wrong with how TK turned out? Recording the history of what happened is a very important job, and Tai has always been more of a leader then him, so it makes sense for Tai to be the diplomat

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Please forgive me if I'm simply reiterating what others have said; I only skimmed the previous posts.

As a whole, I don't have an issue with the epilogue in general. However, it would have been WAY better if they had put more thought into it. A few times, you really get the feeling that they were just trying to wrap everything up as soon as possible so they could get started on making Digimon Tamers.

My feelings about it are as follows:

T.K.- He becomes a novelist who writes about everyone's experiences with the Digimon and the Digital World. I'm perfectly fine with that. After all, one would think one of the star characters would want to share their adventures with the world, particularly when more and more people were becoming aware of the existence of Digimon. And it makes sense when you remember T.K. grew up with his mother who worked as a reporter. In other words, both T.K. and his mother hold professions that involve a lot of writing.

Tai- He and Agumon become diplomats who try and establish a peaceful relationship between both worlds. For this, I basically shrugged and said 'okay, I can live with that.' Besides, I imagine Tai has matured since his early days when he was mainly focused on the goal of defeating the bad Digimon, so he's probably learned to take more peaceful approaches to problems. Plus, like I said, even as a kid, he never lost sight of the goal, so I imagine nothing will make him alter from his course when he has to resolve an issue involving the peace between the two worlds.

Joe- The Digital World's first doctor. The only people who didn't see this one coming most likely had the brains of goldfish. It was virtually established since the end of Season One that Joe would have chosen to become a doctor, particularly after the death of Leomon. Even one of the Japanese audio dramas that took place between Season One and Two indicated that this was Joe's goal.

Matt- An astronaut. Okay, now there's literally a giant question mark hovering over my head. How did they come to that conclusion? Let's review: In Season One, Matt was always playing his harmonica. In fact, the harmonica became something of his emblem. In Season Two, Matt was part of a band, and when he wasn't helping the new team, he was typically practicing/performing with the rest of the band. All of a sudden, he's doing something that has nothing to do with music. Honestly, how did they come up with that conclusion for Matt?

Sora- A fashion designer. Okay, like other people, I do feel like this would have been a more fitting job for Mimi, but I can sort of see the train of thought that led them to this. I mean, when we first met Sora, she was a complete tomboy who loved soccer and had no interest of following in her mother's footsteps by getting into floral arrangements. But when we enter into Season Two, we see exactly how much her experiences in the Digital World have improved her relationship with her mother, as she's now dropped soccer and taken up tennis, arguably a more 'feminine' sport, and even helps out in her mother's floral shop. Perhaps they made Sora a fashion designer to further indicate how much she's grown up since the early days.
(And when it comes to Sora marrying Matt? Well, no offence to the die-hard Taiora fanbase, but I'm actually indifferent to this. Honestly, I'd be fine with her marrying Tai, but I'm just as fine with her marring Matt.)

Mimi- She has a cooking show? Okay, did I miss something? When did Mimi ever show an interest in cooking? Was this a reference to that weird dish we saw her mother make during the Myotismon arc? The one with the fried rice and strawberries? Personally, I think there was much more evidence of Matt getting a cooking show than Mimi. First, it's indicated that Matt taught Tai how to cook in Season One during their time in the Digital World, and it's also strongly hinted that Matt did a lot of the cooking for him and his dad. So, did the writers just give the cooking show to Mimi because they felt that cooking wasn't a good enough job for a male character like Matt? Hmm, I wonder what Gordon Ramsay would say to that.

Izzy- He now researches the Digital World with the help of Joe's brother and Sora' father. Like with Joe's future, I have nothing snarky to say about this. It makes perfect sense that Izzy ends up doing this, and it's completely in character with both Season One Izzy and Season Two Izzy.

Kari- A teacher. Well, she did say she wanted to become one earlier on in the episode, so there was at least a LITTLE build up for it. Plus, I can sort of see Kari as the type of person who would want to reach out to others and help them get started on their paths. However, I am bugged that she didn't get a 'still photo' of her at her job. Everyone else got one, unless you count T.K., but at least you got to SEE him working on one of his novels, so he at least got something. With Kari, it's just 'yeah, she's a teacher now. No, we won't show you the proof; you just have to take our word for it.'

Ken- A detective. Well, after everything that's happened to him, I can see him wanting to do some good in the world. I imagine he'll probably always feel guilt for the things he did when the Dark Spore molded him into the Digimon Emperor. Perhaps he wanted to become a detective because he wanted to try and continue making up for everything he did during that period in his life.

Yolei-Marries Ken and becomes a stay-at-home mother to their three kids. Well, there were hints that they would end up together. Granted they were subtle hints, but there were there. As for Yolei being content as a housewife? Well, that's not exactly an easy job. And one of their kids is a baby who needs care 24/7. While I know things are a bit different in Japan and it's not as big a deal to leave small children alone for short periods, I doubt Yolei would work a day job when she's got a helpless kid at home, even if Hawkmon stayed behind as babysitter. Besides, its not unheard of for housewives to do volunteer work. For example, my mom was the editor of our church's newsletter for most of my life. To my knowledge, there wasn't a paycheck involved, but she did have to deal with deadlines like many paying jobs. Perhaps Yolei did some sort of volunteer work.

Cody- A defense attorney. Well, Cody has seen first hand that people who do horrible things can redeem themselves. First with Ken, then BlackWarGreymon, and finally Oikawa. It does make sense that he would feel called to speak out in defense of people on trial.

Davis- A noodle/ramen salesmen. Again, there's a huge question mark above my head. Where did they pull that idea from!? There's absolutely no build up to this at all. Davis just announces out of nowhere that he wants to open up a noodle cart. That's just as random as him saying he wants to write greeting card sayings. Honestly, was it too much to ask that they gave this character a little more dignity?

Extra Stuff- Now everyone in the world has a Digimon partner. (And yes, I checked. This is also stated in the original Japanese version. It's not just a dubbing thing.) I'm sorry, but that's just stupid, particularly after they practically told all the Dark Spore kids they didn't need Digimon partners to be special. Way to give us mixed messages, show writers.

And on a final note: I am among those who are irritated that T.K. and Kari didn't end up together. I mean, SERIOUSLY!?! It was okay for Matt to marry Sora & Yolei to marry Ken, but you couldn't do the same for T.K. and Kari? Why? Out of all the possible pairings in Seasons One and Two, this one was the one that was hinted at the most strongly. Even their Digimon partners were practically two halves of the same coin. (Not only did we get Angemon and Angewomon, but Pegasusmon and Nerfertimon even had a dual attack!)

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I think people dislike the Epilogue because it was unnecessary. It leaves very little to the imagination. Although, I must say that it was really cool to see what the digidestined looked like as adults, and it was cute to see everyone happy with their kids.

If they were going to make canonical decisions on each of the characters' fates, they should have been more thought out. It's a little insulting how dissatisfying some of the choices were. While I agree that the kids' careers should not have been dictated according to their tween/teenaged interests, some of the career choices were just whack. Matt as an astronaut? That's not a career choice you just suddenly fall into. Matt had never shown any interest in that sort of career, so it is weird he would become one. And Sora as a fashion designer was also stupid. I actually hated Sora's development in Season 2. Although she annoyed me in Season 1, I still admired that she was an outspoken, tomboy with a strong sense of reason. But in Season 2, she not only becomes girlier, but she also loses all personality. She's basically Matt's quiet arm candy. LAME. And Mimi's cooking show career... was sort of random, which also made it unsatisfying.

Joe, Izzy, Tai, and TK were probably the most satisfying career outcomes for me. I personally like that Tai was a diplomat. He was a real leader, so it makes sense that a more mature Tai would be great at building peaceful relations. And TK seemed to be a really thoughtful kid, and he grew up with a journalist mother, so it was believable. Oh, and Kari as a schoolteacher, while not as glamorous as being an astronaut or detective, was fine.

As for the relationships, I will admit I was disappointed that they had to go and tell us who married each other/didn't. I'm not a crazy shipper, but I feel that the Epilogue removes a lot of the fun of imagining what happened to the kids. Because now you have this lazily conceived canon.

And on a final note: I am among those who are irritated that T.K. and Kari didn't end up together. I mean, SERIOUSLY!?! It was okay for Matt to marry Sora & Yolei to marry Ken, but you couldn't do the same for T.K. and Kari? Why? Out of all the possible pairings in Seasons One and Two, this one was the one that was hinted at the most strongly. Even their Digimon partners were practically two halves of the same coin. (Not only did we get Angemon and Angewomon, but Pegasusmon and Nerfertimon even had a dual attack!)


Oh, I definitely agree with this. I honestly don't care who Sora married in the end, and I don't care about Ken/Yolei's marriage (does ANYONE feel strongly about this ship?), but if they were going to establish a canon pairing from Digimon, I really agree it should have been TK/Kari. And this is coming from someone who has been fond of crack pairings like Mimi and Izzy. TK and Kari had a special bond, as evidenced by their related crests.

So, in the end, the Epilogue did very little for me. It solidifed certain pairings I didn't care much about, while eliminating pairings that I would liked to have happened. And all the careers I liked were ones I could have just imagined on my own (although the Tai thing was actually a pleasant surprise). And it was a very cheesy ending. I didn't have a very strong emotional response to it, unlike the ending of Season 1. They shouldn't have forced "official" adult lives for the characters on us.

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Though I was the OP, I now agree that the epilogue was very poorly thought out.

BTW, I refuse to accept that Takeru and Hikari didn't get married

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Just for anyone who is wondering why Matt was randomly shown as an Astronaut, it's because it was a setup for a third season that was eventually scrapped (According to one of the writers or maybe even the head writer). It was something to do with Space and Digimon, and Matt was the one to bridge that gap.

Was Matt an odd choice? Yeah, but it sort of makes a little more sense when you realize that he's actually really smart and athletic. People are under the wrong impression that Matt was just a rockstar and may not have given much thought to school, but he was actually written (in the japanese version) as a really bright kid who was into sports as well.

All in all, I was fairly happy with the epilogue. I was disappointed that the English version failed to mention that Matt and Sora got married (probably because the Dub writers were against the pairing and tried to make as many Tai/Sora references as possible).

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All in all, I was fairly happy with the epilogue. I was disappointed that the English version failed to mention that Matt and Sora got married (probably because the Dub writers were against the pairing and tried to make as many Tai/Sora references as possible).


I've seen the sub twice now. When did they state that Yamato and Sora got married?

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From what I remember, Toei confirmed that the two got married. In the dub, Matt tells their son to be careful, and then their daughter says she'll take care of him. In the Japanese version, Biyomon calls the daughter "a good sister" confirming that the two kids are siblings (even though the hair made it obvious). The English dub version took out the line confirming they were siblings and had Biyomon say that she'll take care of the daughter.

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All the Taiora hints were dubbed in. In the Japanese version, there wasn't anything more than friendship there. And any time romance did come up, it was placed as a joke and used for comedic purposes. These are kids after all. While Sora and Yamato (Matt) achieved emotional understanding/connection in the first season, very subtly in that episode where Sora was upset about her not having her crest for the sake of foreshadowing their future marriage rather than a moment, it wasn't until the second season where the Chosen actually were getting into the whole romance thing. And even then, it wasn't really. The director of the show didn't care about ships or romance. Tai ended up having a crush on Sora for like, an episode, and then quickly got over it and was kissing Catherine's cheek the next. First time he's shown interest in a girl to me. Takeru (T.K.) too for that matter.

The epilogue was thought of from the beginning, along with a Sorato marriage.

I have no understanding why the dub was so hardcore for Taiora other than stupidly pushing the typical main guy gets "main girl" (I use the term loosely for her) or whatever. It reminded me of Ash and Misty where the dub takes it upon themselves to create their own romantic link. Misty did actually like Ash though in the original.

I'm more concerned about the career choices. And just the need to put in the epilogue at all. I get that it's to show the end growth of the characters, but still. It was jarring and cheesy and I wish it was more left to the audience.

I'm not sure what to expect with this new sequel series. Them "retconning" the epilogue seems like a pipe dream, let's be real. Unless they do some time change plot. Let's also sip in the reality that Sorato will stay. Let's simply enjoy their teenage selves.

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Just because someone's interested in music doesn't mean they must make a career out of it, though. Nor do other careers mean one must give up their passion for music. During the Live Earth concert, there was a band made up of scientists from Antarctica that were featured via live streaming so that there would officially be concerts from every continent. If our real world has researchers in Antarctica who can play electric guitar, then there's no reason Matt can't be an astronaut who plays guitar or harmonica in his free time. It's not easy to make money off of all of your hobbies.

I remember being shocked by the epilogue but I got over it pretty quickly. At least the guys turned out handsome.

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