What did you think?


What did people think of this movie? I really enjoyed it, and think I will be using parts of it for my thesis, which is about representations of successful femminity through maternity. It links quite well with Plath's 'Three women' I think at this stage.

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I'm thinking of the movie from plain cinematic view. I liked the way the story was told with less dialogue and with a strong atmosphere. I haven't seen the movie for a while now but I do think it's one of the most interesting films I've ever seen.

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I did not think much of it.. I was intrigued by it as assembles a whole lot of talented actresses but the dvd cover didn't tell me much more than that the director was now famous for having directed some of 6FU episodes. Now I know why the cover did not tell more...
I must admit he must have a sensitivity for certain drama aspects as he puts sometimes certain feelings quite clearly on the screen.
Although all of the actresses did a good job,I think, with Hunter outstanding and Diaz interesting, the story (was it meant to be a story?) does not hold.
They are all linked, so-called in a way, but, by GOD, is if FAR-FETCHED. Someone sitting in the same bar, someone living next door to someone.. I really don't get the point, these are all episodes, which could probably be turned into a movie.. Instead we get a hint of something, very well acted, which is a beginning of an interesting story and then a kind of hint where it ended.. The red dressed woman (who is found dead.) appears in most of the episodes I think.. but what's the point???
Anyway, was glad this movie was over, as it was a waste of time !

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i thought it was VERY interesting, very moving, and poignant...

i think of all the stories Holly Hunter's is most interesting b/c of the 'bag' lady that wants to keep her ciggies....

Cameron D. was great too, tho.. 'bout made me cry there too! :(



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I feel like you might like the movie if you saw it again and looked at it from a different point of view.

The movie is not one big "story," but more like an anthology of very powerful short stories, each vignette illustrating something about a woman that's hidden or private.

I found the tangents and relationships very believable; I felt like the film was showing us how *these* particular women's lives intersected, deliberately (versus, hey, what a coincidence, so-and-so lives next door! etc).

But most importantly, I loved how each vignette told us about a person's private life:

* Holly Hunter has an almost casual affair yet cannot go on being casual when she loses the baby she didn't even know she wanted (a fact emphasized by the bag lady and her mysterious and sorrowful connection to her). She has everything yet in a moment sees how little happiness she has really gained in life;

* Glenn Close is cool and closed off, patiently tending to her aging mother, yet she is secretly desperate for love, seeing signs in every phone call and encounter; yet when she finally meets the man we know is right for her, she is completely oblivious (as she should be; it's the only way she'll succeed)

* Kathy Baker's character pays a little more attention one day to an attractive new neighbor who also happens to be a dwarf (Danny Woodburn is wonderful in this), and discovers love where she least expected it

* And Amy Brenneman, constantly overshadowed by a strong and seemingly unflappable sister (Diaz, although this too is just a facade), finds love ironically because of the death of the woman in red, and because she notices, perhaps for the first time, what a caring and gentle man the medical examiner is.

I loved the movie, and it remains a favorite. I especially love the attention to detail, and the ways all the stories intersect, however lightly. Nobody's a cliche. Ultimately, I think it's a lovely and uplifting series of stories.

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i just watched this movie last night and i loved it! well acted, tastefull script, amazing lighting which was almost spooky, and believable characters. i did find it interesting/weird however that most of the women were depressed because they didn't have a man (i know this wasn't the case of all) and it was quite a comment on women that they always need men to be happy. i didn't like that aspect of it, because even though the women were lost, they should have focused on finding themselves, not finding themselves a man.
my first impression of this film was -american beauty- which is quite a compliment as that was a fantastic movie about reality and depression. all in all things you can tell just by looking at her was amazing

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I loved the movie too.

I don't agree that the women are all necessarily depressed at not having a man (although Glenn Close's character certainly is) -- I think it's more complex than that. For example,

* Holly Hunter has one man already and another after her, but they aren't what she wants or needs so she ends up alone.

* Kathy Baker seems very happy and un-depressed to me, actually. Her falling for her neighbor seems to surprise her most of all.

* Cameron Diaz's character plays the field -- it's her sister she (wrongly) pities, not herself

* Amy Brenneman I think is lonely more because her sister seems to be the type to constantly point out how "pathetic" she is. I loved that she ends up with a guy she had already known, but never considered before.

* And Callista's character, of course, is not sad over a man at all. ;-)

I think the only one who is depressed and pining over a man is actually Glenn Close's character, and I think it's meant to illuminate this yearning on her part for something more. She's wealthy and attractive, but watching her mother die day by day (and completely out of her mind, sadly) makes her "crush" all the more important to her. I love the scene where Callisa "reads" her -- it's lovely and so sad, the hope and enthusiasm Glenn's character has, the way she won't let go of the idea that *this* must be "the guy."

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I disagree, I think the teenage son was right when he said that it is normal to seek a significant other.

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I realize our messages are coming almost two years apart here, but what the heck, I'll reply anyway.

How could you say that Holly Hunter's affair was "casual"? She told her OB/GYN that she'd been seeing the Gregory Hines character for three years (even though she knew he was married that whole time and wasn't about to leave his wife). Nothing casual about a 3-year relationship, even if the guy was married...

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Hello six months later! Hee. Sorry about that.

I may have used the word 'casual' badly. What I meant by it is that Hunter's character is deliberately keeping the affair 'light,' at status-quo -- she makes several comments even in their first scene together that tease him about how 'unimportant' their arrangement is.

I agree that it isn't actually casual, but I feel that Hunter's character had actually talked herself into believing that it was. That it was just a fun little relationship she had with this guy, until she has the revelation of the baby and realizes that she cannot keep living on the surface and needs something more (and at the same time realizing that Hines will never give her that).

Because of all this, the final moments as Hunter walks away from the clinic are just devastating to me.

And RIP Hines, by the way, who was great in this role -- sexy and genteel, but with this sense to the character that he would only give so much. I still can't believe he's gone, he was a terrific actor.

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The connections between each sequence are quite strong (other than the obvious) if you stop to think:

*The dead woman walks through each person's path, which not only signals the passage of the single day that they all live through at some point during their stories, but also showing these women's physical proximity.

*There is also the way in which each major character intersects with at least one other character to tie the movie together. This is probably the most obvious, and if you only look at the movie as being bound together by this, it doesn't work.

*Here I need some help, as I no longer have the film here to review. Was the boy's name in Calista Flockheart's childhood story about the canary Walter? It think it was. If this is the case, Walter is involved in every single woman's life in this story in some way - and the more immediately and closely he is involved the more miserable that person is. This leads to a couple of conclusions for me: Dr. Keener (Close) will either need to change him, or he will make her miserable, or he is not the man who will make her happy. Also, leads me to the conclusion that the man (if Diaz's character is right) who is responsible for Carmen's suicide is also Walter.
I don't think he is a character is that important, but rather he is a symbol for "the man" (you know, the bad type) who makes each of these women so unhappy. We notice that the person who ends up being happiest is the one who does not go for "the man," but rather another man. (Talking about Rose here.)

*Each woman's story has something to do with the absence of a mother / daughter bond. Dr. Keener's elderly mother is no longer a mother. We never actually see Walter's daughter's mother, and we get the impression she usually lives with him. The dying woman (Flockhart's lover) asks about whether her mother has called. Flockhart tells a story casting a negative light on her mother. There is an interesting discussion between the two women lovers about babies - Flockhart doesn't want one, the other favors a boy. Kathy Baker has a son, and unlike those in mother/daughter pairs in the film, there is a bond (which is yet another way her story is the one that most stands apart to solidify the theme - a foil to the others if you will). Holly Hunter - kind of obvious. Bag lady - ditto. Sisters - living together with no mother. The one who committed suicide lost a baby daughter.
This also ties in nicely to a unifying theme of who becomes caretaker in the absence of a mother.
This is a very strong bond between the stories.

*A secondary theme I think is vulnerability versus strength (or perceived strength). You can look at each character and figure this out. However, what is an interesting visual tie on this one that draws the pieces together are shots of characters sleeping prone.

There is probably more. I only got to see this once so far. I think it seems deceptively simple and quiet to the casual viewer, but when you watch it more intently, it is tightly woven.


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The boy who loved Calista Flockhart's character as a child was named Salvador.

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What?

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she sai that the boy was from a country named el salvador, duh..

im not bossy, i just have better ideas

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I think it's just a wonderful, vulnerable and fascinating story. If you haven't seen this director's new movie, Nine Lives, you should...it's even better. The pacing is better and the writing tighter. I think Nine Lives comes out on DVD this week.

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Great film, wonderful characters, good writing. I watched it with great interest for its powerful finesse, amazing acting and realism imbued with sadness. Elegant, simple and managing to talk earnestly about womenhood and solitude. The only detail I felt was too much is that mention of Rose's past attraction to circus men, so we can understand her actions related to the dwarf.
The unsaid is more important here that the said.
But hello, we were sure Rose will try a relationship with the dwarf, for two reasons: the film needed a bit of romance and escape and second, come on, we loved the guy from Seinfeld and other films.

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I liked this film very much.

And one of the reasons I liked it is due to the brief appearance of the charachters in the "other" stories combined with the title; like the woman in read, Carlista reading cards for Glenn etc.

When they appear in other stories than their own, they appear fine, happy and so on. Which resembles real life more or less. In the short meetings we have with new people in daily life (like the clerk at the bank or the whimsy person passing us on the street), we never conside their lives. That woman passing you on the street right now, might just be on her way to a motel to kill herself.

Which leads me to think of how good we are to keep up apparences, and show the world what we want to tell them.

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Great points--I loved that element too (which reappears in Garcia's other excellent films).

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YEARS belated response!

This was a gorgeous dissection of everything that made this movie so unique and poignant -- the way it simply showed us these characters within a day or two.

Lovely description that it is all a distillation of many lives, many experiences, and how they may go... keeping up appearances.

Cheers and thank you.

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I loved this movie. I saw the poster in the theatres and was hooked. Great cast, great looking poster, simple and clean, just like the movie. When I found out that this wasn't released in theatres I was EXTREMELY dissapointed and still am. I'm sure that if it did, there would be at least some Golden Globe and SAG best ensemble award nominations for the actresses/cast in the film.

I liked the movie for more of its atmosphere. It's everyday women living life. I always think that these type of stories play out in real life at around 1-2 PM when lunch is done, when it's time to do groceries, do laundry, just relax before the kids get home from school. If you've seen the movie, you know what I'm talking about. It's a nice look into the women being women of being a mother, a sister, a daughter. It's a great film, very well directed, with a beautiful script and just so relaxing to watch.

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This movie was so beautiful, so full of emotion and love, its simple yet powerful on so many levels, its a very touching movie.


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I love Garcia's work, and I loved Six Feet Under. I watched this movie last night and found it gentle and captivating. I adore the way that he just plucks moments out of peoples lives, and the way he manages to get his actresses to convey their thoughts, fears and desires through silence. It bores me to see the amount of people on here who dismiss the film with sayings like 'What's the point'. It's like going and watching a superhero blockbuster and complaining that it wasn't realistic enough. Not knowing the outcomes of the stories makes for a refereshing change, and I don't want to watch an overwrought deathbed scene, Garcia is too SUBTLE for that anyway. The final scene where Glenn Close does a double-take was quite enough, and I was happy to let my imagination take over as the credits started to roll. I think I enjoyed this even more than 'Nine Lives', although the later film has a couple of higher points in it, 'Things' works better as a whole. And as for a showcase for great actressing, Hunter and Close do their usual sterling work, Diaz and Flockheart who I normally dismiss out of hand, are revelatory. Yet it was Baker's performance that I really loved. She moved me to tears. Not sure he really needs to use the 'Short Cuts' style device that he also used in 'Nine Lives', the film works just fine without it.

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