possible plot-hole?


Firstly I really loved this movie, regardless; but I noticed something that I was surprised wasn't explained. The little girl was 14, and hadn't had her first period yet- So at first I thought, 'Well, maybe she's just a late-bloomer' because, and maybe I'm wrong, I thought that was pretty late for the average girl. So I ignored that, but then she was pregnant. At this point, I'm thinking, "Wait. If she hasn't had her first period yet, how is it biologically possible for her to be pregnant?" Which can be explained, maybe, that her first eggs had formed and it was just that lucky that they'd concieved.. Then I questioned my entire understanding of how menstruation works, which I feel I have a generally good knowledge of for a guy... I just thought, "How could I see this and notice such a fairly important detail that would have been overlooked by a writer, director, various crew members, actors, ect..?"

I don't know. Maybe I'm ignorant about this.. can this be explained?

--Joe

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Well, you missed something. When the girl tells Sam and his mother that she might be pregnant, she says something about how she does not know what the hell it's like to have a period. So I figure she thought she never had one.

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I think it's possible that she got pregnant before her first REAL period...even before a girl's first period, she would ovulate, so if she and Sam were having sex during that period, she would have been pregnant before she even had a period.

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> Well, you missed something. When the girl tells Sam and his
> mother that she might be pregnant, she says something about
> how she does not know what the hell it's like to have a period.

Well, you missed something! It was Lydia who said that she doesn't even really know how it is to feel pregnant (albeit she got Sam), not Maurey who said that she doesn't know how it feels to have a period. The only one asking what a period is (twice) was Sam!

Reading what the previous poster said I guess Maurey got pregnant just at the time when she got sexually mature.

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My doctor told me there's a rumor going around at the middle school that a girl can't get pregnant until she's had a period, so it's okay to have sex if you're young enough. He sees several girls a year who got pregnant that way. They do drop eggs several months before a visible period shows up.
It makes more sense in the novel than the movie, because Maurey is 13 in the novel. I had hoped kids would read it and learn something. I looked at both the book and the movie as public service announcements.

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I thought she was 12...

I'm probably wrong, though, because I haven't even read the book. Maybe I should, lol.

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she says shes 14 in the movie if that helps? :o)

Cheers!

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Yeah, in health class, they made it clear that you can get pregnant before having your first period. Having sex without using birth control is stupid in any situation.

Tomorrow's just your future yesterday!

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Wait-a-minute...Today is just your future yesterday! : )

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you learned that because this movie teaches you what your school never taught you, and what your mom never told you, haha.


btw, i havent seen this movie yet. should i? everyone keeps sayin its really good!

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Eh, well, you wouldn't be the first to have heard the old myth about pregnancy not being possible until menstruation. The old saying "old enough to bleed is old enough to breed" is the truth so far as it goes, but not the complete truth. A girl's first menstruation is one of the first and most reliable indications that she's ovulating and can therefore get pregnant, but the ovulation comes first, see?

The change of Sam and Maurey's ages from 12 in the book to 14 in the movie does suggest a bit of executive meddling on somebody's part, though I suspect it had more to do with the casting rules than any concern for moral guardians getting up in arms about it: the younger the actors are, the more certain labor laws and restrictions apply. While Hollywood has regularly gotten away with having actors and actresses be much older than the characters they are portraying, somebody may well have thought there was no way they could fool the viewers into thinking these kids were 12. Moreover, back in the 1960s, a lot of children were late bloomers and still hadn't hit puberty by age 14, so this plot point is not altogether unrealistic in context.

Of course, at either age, Sam and Maurey shouldn't even have been considering having sex, "protected" or otherwise. The whole biological point of sex's very existence is reproduction, and trying simultaneously to allow one's natural urges full control of one's behavior and evade all of the natural consequences is pure folly. Pregnancy is all a numbers game, and while various factors can mitigate the odds of getting pregnant, the only wise choice for those who don't want to get pregnant at all is not to play the game.

The way I figure it, the cynic Diogenes had the right idea millennia ago: if you really want to have sex but you don't want all the inevitable social entanglements, try dating your right hand (or your left, as the case may be). Beyond that, if you're looking to satisfy more than just your natural urges, start planning your wedding now, even if you *are* just 12 years old. Once you find your way past all the obstacles our benighted civilization has thrown in your way, you'll be mature enough to be married whatever your age is.

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