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Tron 1982 ending/Tron 2003 beginning.

posted 21 years ago by tronflynn
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I think it would be a cool idea if the beginning of "Tron Killer App" (2003) faded *from* black...to the same city shot as the ending of "Tron" (1982).

So as we see it from T-1(1982)..Flynn's chopper flies up and lands....dropping him off. "Pick me up in an hour, thanks..............Greetings Programs"...then cuts to the shot of the city...the theme music plays and the shot is sped up and the city goes from day to night. (which shows that we are a world just like the programs that we have created).

Now T-2(2003)...Screen black...theme plays and we see the same shot but 21 years later (I bet the city must have changed since 1982). The city is sped up and goes from night to day. Then maybe the camera pans over to the helicopter pad...and the story begins.

Well, I think the problem with a lot of sequels is that the people just don't remember the past as we do in real life. We connect to the past always in a personal way. It is where we came from..and even though it probably won't happen..I think this idea is sort of a bridge. Anyway..I'm just a simple Tron fan with complex Tron ideas. Anybody else have any for the new movie??

[–] The Fox-2 21 years ago

I like your idea for the opening... and when the camera pans over to the helipad, instead of the ENCOM logo, it would show the new fCon logo. J.D. Thorne would emerge from the fCon company helicopter and go down to what was once Dillinger's (now Flynn's) office, to put the finishing touches on fCon's takeover of ENCOM. Of course, my idea probably doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but it's definitely fun to speculate.

[–] tronflynn 21 years ago

So far so good, I think! On the same thoughts..can you imagine Flynn's home now? Goes from living above an arcade to probably a mansion! lol He's got to be doin great now! I am not sure of the exact story yet, but I like to think FCON was Flynn's idea. Maybe changed the name after the events of the first movie. Whatever happened, I hope Flynn will be in the new movie and doin just fine for himself.

[–] The Fox-2 21 years ago

I can definitely see Flynn in some post-modern type house in the hills, with his old Paranoids machine in the corner of his living room. I wouldn't doubt that he'd be doing great in the present time.

If you haven't checked out the official Tron 2.0 website at http://www.tron20.net, check it out. You'll find the backstory of the upcoming videogame, which will probably serve as the premise for the movie sequel, should there be one. They used to have a link on the website that made it look like an fCon corporate site that had been very subtlely hacked into, and the hackers had dropped clues about fCon being the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing.

No mention of Flynn being in the Tron 2.0 game, but Jeff Bridges has expressed an interest in playing Kevin Flynn in a Tron movie sequel. Steven Lisberger is supposedly working on a FOURTH draft of a script for a Tron movie sequel, and I do believe that he fully intends to write Flynn into it. I sure hope so; Flynn was my favorite character in the original.

[–] Reverend_Dr_Syn 18 years ago

I imagine Flynn made a series of careful investments and then sold the company, retired and went into seclusion.

The Slave Labor Tron 2.0 comics shows Jet Bradley somewhat rattled by his experience inside the computer world, making him somewhat dsyfunctional living in the real world.

Suppose something similar happened to Flynn. Maybe his disillusionment with the real world was more gradual. But he never had the means to ever go back, so instead of interacting with the real world he just had a mansion built in a secuded area of the wilderness and cut off all contact from the real world. Thanks to some careful financial planning he never had to worry about his next meal.

But One night Flynn wakes up from another fitful night of sleep and sees an apparition of Lori on the screen of his PC pleading for his help. It winds up the accident everyone thought she died from just scattered her conciousness and the raw data across the web. Flynn is directed to find Jet and finds he's been getting the same message too and if they dont act fast to recompile the program Lori truly will die.

Meanwhile Dillinger, who had a good lawyer and only got a couple years in yuppie prison restarted a new company in Germany from scratch. He reboots the MCP using backup modules and code leftover from his time at Encom that he had tucked away. The MCP being the voice we heard directing the bad guys. This was needed to retrieve the digitization data. Dillenger thought he had this MCP under control but due to a small fragment of the original conciousness that hid and mutated on the internet, it starts to get ideas of its own and sent people in after Jet on its own. Now it hears about Loris predicament and sets up a squad to retreive her data and hold it for ransom. He creates a new more powerful version of his lackey out of Dillenger, dubbing it Sark 2.0

So Flyn and Jet team up to return to the virtual world to rescue Lori, revive the original Tron program himself, thwart Dillenger, the MCP and Sark 2.0 and finally come to terms with the demons who have plagued them since their adventures.

[–] gordon_mcvey 21 years ago

When I saw that ending with Flynn in charge I couldn't help but think to myself "That company's going to be so bankrupt in six months..."

[–] tronflynn 21 years ago

I didn't think that myself. He was the creator of all those games and did deserve the credit for it and the upward direction that would bring. Allen did say that he was the best programmer Encom ever saw. Flynn did manage to run a successful video arcade for 3 years. But who knows...He still might not have had the skills to be the boss of such a company. Even so, I'd like to think he did well. Plus, would the people that made the decision to make him boss have made that choice without due concideration?? I think they made very sure what they were doing before they did it.

But hey..we'll see. It's Steven's world and he knows best, I'm just a program that grew up in it. :-)

[–] gordon_mcvey 21 years ago

I've got 3 letters for you: CP/M

When IBM designed the original PC back in the early 80s they wanted CP/M as the operating system. But the guy who wrote it decided to go flying the day the IBM boys wanted to see him, so instead they got into talks with this spotty little geek by the name of Bill Gates. Gates said he could provide them with an operating system, and did/ The operating system in question wasn't one he wrote however, it was one he bought from someone else who had slapped it together in a few weeks as a quick-and-dirty CP/M clone. In fact it's original name was Quick and Dirty OS (QDOS). Gates renamed this pretty poorly written clone OS as MS-DOS 1.0, and the rest of history.

The qualitys needed to be a good programmer and those needed to be a good businessman are very different. Gates isn't much of a programmer but he's a hell of a businessman. He's also utterly ruthless and not averse to using business practices that aren't entirely ethical. Hense, he became a success, kind of like Dillenger in the movie. Gary Kildall, while a much better programmer than Gates, was obviously a bit clueless on the business front. When IBM offers you money for something, you take it.

[–] phester-1 21 years ago

This is how I see the begining of the film happening. Flynn, being the boss of his own company, decided he can play games whenever he likes - inside the main frame! An over ambitious employee who wants Flynn's job, writes a nasty program that gets Flynn caught inside the Main Frame. Once trapped, Flynn is treated like any other program, and tries his best to win in order to be givin access rights to the i/o tower. Meanwhile, the evil employee tells Flynn's son that his dad has got stuck in the Main Frame, and doesn't know why, monouvering him into going in after his dad, in hopes that there will be no more competition for the top job.
Flynn's son jumps in, after some struggle finds his dad, they both team up with an updated Tron program, bust open the Main Frame yadda yadda yadda.

Of coures, I've never written screne scripts before, and this could be to boring, but I think its a nice start.

Oh, and I like the idea of starting it where the old one left off, with the camera fading in to the light show, then slowing down to real-time to see that everything is newer, that day is breaking, and that the brand new, but still black and flashy helicopter has just dropped the boss off for work.

[–] optims129 21 years ago

yeah the ohmaje to the circutry world to the living world must be in the film...

no we don't need fCOM in the film fCOM is a rival corperation that attempted to stage an agressive corperate take over when flynn retired and left ENCOM in the hands of some person who was to be hired very shortly j.d.thorn was made security chief and decided to being an fCOM exc on board to fill the role and all fCOM wanted was ENCOM's digitalization process so they could internally pirate hardware and software all over the world with out anybody ever finding out

too bad for fCOM that ma3a digitized jet into the system to save the day....

my other thought is to cast a person for the character of jethro bradley and a character for the son of flynn and have the 2 youths go at it in the circutry world

in short there are a lot of ideas and options avaliable to steve lesberger to think about and for him to use... hell a complete and total revamp of the costumns can be done as well they don't nessessarily (sp) need the old hockey armor for costumes they have new matterial they can use and more options avaliable these days as long as the armor has the whole lighted effect thing going on

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