My mom sent me out of the room during the concentration camp footage and pictures, but I was really peeking in from behind the couch. I couldn't believe it. I was only 9 or 10 and i was absolutley horrified. It unimaginable that peole would do this to other people. I'll never forget watching this, good miniseries.
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While the scenes are truly horrible, I think that your mom shouldn't have made you leave the room. We all need to see those scenes, regardless of our age, and remember them so we don't allow something like that to happen again.
In 1962, as an 11 year old, I went to a theatre alone and saw Mein Kamph, being interested in learning more about the war that my uncle had fought and won singlehandedly (his story, lol). The thing that stayed with me were the pictures taken by the Nazis of the Jewish quarter of occupied Warsaw, Poland. Starving people, corpses lying on the sidewalk, a woman wandering about obviously insane. What stayed with me most was 3 children caught trying to smuggle food into the ghetto; the guards are making them empty their clothes while kicking them to make them move faster. The narrator says, "A child said to his father, 'I wish I was a dog; the guards don't beat the dogs.'"
For over 40 years I haven't been able to erase those scenes from my head, nor answer the questions how or why could something like this happen in our time?
Read, immerse yourself in history, good and bad. Learn from the past so that you and your generation never see anything like this again.
Well, such things happend again and again and again. Stalin killed more people than Hitler. Don't forget Vietnam, Cambodia, Yugoslavia, some African countries. Genocides everywehre. This will never stop.
shareThere.are some horrible people in this world - far too many. When they get into power.
Your mother was right.
You don't want to end up like scotthall82 -who has become a person full of hatred- do you ?!
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My history teacher rented it for our us to watch last year during the time we were learning about the Holoucaust. She had our parents sign permission slips to either let us or not let us watch it. My mom let me. I wanted to. Why? I have NO idea. I guess I was interested on how bad it actually was. OMG... I'm a necrophobic. WHY??!! Why did I keep my eyes open that whole time? I should've known it would make me go insane every night for about a year -- I *still* have mental images in my head from watching that last year that will most likely never go away. It's horrible.
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Remember that all the footage you see has been selectively edited by the Allies to make the Nazis look bad. Not that they didn't do bad things. But if you have a chance to view the rarely seen original films you'll see a lot of footage of well-fed healthy looking people and children laughing and playing along with dead corpses.
When you see films of bulldozers pushing corpses into a ditch in a German concentration camp think about the horrifying footage of little old ladies being dragged out of their homes, of mothers and their babies crying as stone faced soldiers march them into overcrowded trains, of the faces of dispair as entire communities are forced to abandon their homes, schools, churches, etc. taking with them only what they can carry and leaving the rest to the looters, of the resignation and sadness as they are forced into hovels behind barbed wire fences and watched over by soldiers with machine guns not knowing where they are or when or if they are going to be free that was filmed as the Americans of Japanese descent are "relocated" in 1942. You don't see much of that footage, do you?
Ummm - so because the US government committed the crime of sending Japanese americans to camps, that justifies the killing millions of Jews and others? As for that footage, I have seen quite a bit of it. So you believe the holocaust did not happen, but the Japanese american relocation, that did happen? Both happened, and there is plenty of documentary evidence for both. Healthy well-fed children? please, another denier's myth courtesy of the IRC.
shareNo, you clown! Yet another imbecile that takes everything out of context. What this person was trying to say is: You see these glorifying hollywood depictions of how evil everyone else in the world is, and you see nothing of how incredibly intolerable of other cultures and nations the U.S. is.
All the hate and war crimes committed by America, that will never have their big-screen debuts, to entertain and educate the world of how disgusting america has been over the years.
Why don't they make a movie showing how pathetic America really is. How they would have never gotten involved in the war if it weren't for the Japs, and pearl harbour. (It was only a matter of time before they reached u.s. soil)
Meanwhile Canadian soldiers were over there fighting from day one. 'Coward Americans', someone should make a movie about that. Or how about 'Terrorist Americans', that would be an all-time great too.
But no, fools like yourself need to replace fact with idiocy. Redundant and ignorant questioning, when the answer has already been spoken. I keep seeing people talk about how "everyone needs to see this movie so that 'it' never happens again". america is doing 'it' on a daily basis, but you dont see any movies about that, do you?
If the U.S. were as glorified as they like to make themselves. They would have been invovled long before the stages of this film. Hypocritical cowards, only out for the smug glory. America is no saviour or hero of/for anything other than itself. The most ignorant nation on this entire planet.
Anymore stupid questions you want to ask? Your ignorance is no shield to the obvious. It just shows how incredibly stupid most americans are. Oh, and these wars over with the precious jews that you need to protect from another holocaust. You know, where the american government promotes their wars. The wars they continue to host, and all your u.s. media allows you to see, is what the same government funding these wars, allows you to see.
Honestly, Americans have no business depicting wars to anyone, in any fashion. They are the biggest warmongers in the history of the mordern world. Hope that makes enough sense for you. Or is this not where your ignorance should kick in.
People like Oliver Stone already have - among other national masochists.
shareS810, your post is officially the most perfectly retarded post I have ever seen on any forum on the interweb.
You actually say:
"Remember that all the footage you see has been selectively edited by the Allies to make the Nazis look bad. Not that they didn't do bad things. But if you have a chance to view the rarely seen original films you'll see a lot of footage of well-fed healthy looking people and children laughing and playing along with dead corpses. "
I've never seen a post, nor thought process of such an ignorant magnitude demonstrated so concisely, before. I am astounded.
You need help. You're not okay.
That's an argument you hear quite a bit: "Remember, the American government had relocation camps for Japanese-Americans. Don't forget that when you talk about the Holocaust!" Why is it everytime there is a discussion about the crimes of others, someone always feels the need to bring up dark moments from our past? So, because our government relocated Japanese Americans, does that mean we have no moral ground to stand on when condemning the Holocaust? This is a discussion regarding the film "Nuremburg", and the atrocities that are talked about during that film. There is no need to always bring up things from our own past that have nothing to do with the discussion. That seems to be a symptom of this mind-set to always critize and bring down your own, out of some misplaced sense of guilt or self-hatred. "American's have dark moments in our history, so we can't talk about the atrocities of others". That's ridiculous, and irrelevant to the topic.
If I knew that you had robbed a store, and at one point I had stolen $20 from my father, does that mean I have no right to say "Hey, you shouldn't have robbed that store"? Of course not, that would be idiotic.
If we are talking about the Holocaust, and you want to bring up the relocations camps, why stop there? Why not list every atrocity that every country has committed in the history of the world? You may not know this, but America is not the only place where bad things have happened. The Egyptians enslaved the Hebrews. The Normans invaded the Britains. The Spanish wiped out the Aztecs. The Pawnee attacked the Sioux. The British subjugated the Scottish. It goes on and on. I guess because all these things happened, no one has a right to condemn the Holocaust, according to S810's logic.
"If I knew that you had robbed a store, and at one point I had stolen $20 from my father, does that mean I have no right to say "Hey, you shouldn't have robbed that store"? Of course not, that would be idiotic. "
Hahahahahahaha ... jeez mate, did you say/write that sentence with a straight face ?
s_810, what can I say, it's about damn time somebody said that. How can you watch these propaganda films about what the Germans did, funny how they never manage to read the horror stories out of Berlin, or even worse, the tales of pure misery experienced by the Japanese in August 1945. You all get on your moral high horses when you talk about how 'horrible' the Germans where, but you dont bother to read the atrocities your side commited, the same as you cant get over September 11, but you have killed millions of Afghan and Iraqi civilians since then.
"People that dont believe in anything will never understand those who do"
If the Germans and Japs didn't want to suffer perhaps they shouldn't have started the war!
shareAbsolutely. The point is that i have every right as an American to say that the Nazis were evil and hey, they shouldn't have killed millions of people. I have the moral high ground to say that, even if there details in my country's history that are unfortunate.
shareAs a person who has been (as a tourist) to the Auschwitz concentration camps, i find it appauling that someone coughcough.. s_810, could be soooo incredibly stupid. you are the dumbest person i have ever encountered. why dont you justify the holocaust a little more? like wow. i find it highly doubtful that anyone could have smiled and laughed in that place. not to mention, all of the corpses are pin thin due to starvation so that whole "well fed" thing just flew out the window. do you proudly wear the swastika too?
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The Holocaust is in no way justifiable. Completely horrible. As is the case with Japanese Internment, the Khmer Rouge, Stalin's executions, Rwanda etc. I watched a Holocaust film on TV a few years back, and the message in the opening credits stated that the Holocaust needs to be remembered to keep it from ever happening again. True, except for the fact that Genocide is a current issue in places like Darfur and Rwanda! It's happening now! Parents murdered in front of their children, women and girls brutally raped and sold into slavery every day.
The problem I have is that nine times out of ten the average person has heard of the Holocaust and knows what it was, but the odds are not as high for the Khmer Rogue, Japanese Internment etc. I knew about the Holocaust growing up, but didn't learn about what Joseph Stalin Stalin did until I was in tenth grade. If we are going to be made aware of one horrible time in history, we should be made aware of the rest too! History has a funny way of repeating itself, as is evident. We need to start improving the present (the genocide in Africa) to have hope for our future.
I agree with moomoo170!
Those who have watched a lot of WW II documentaries probably also watched the short film which was made about the concentration camp in Therezin (sp?)/Theresienstadt while the Red Dtoss was visiting. Those people were forced to smile at the camera and act as if they are treated well. If they would have refused to do that, they would have been sent to Auschwitz.
I visited Dachau near Munich and Bergen-Belsen (where Anne Frank died) near Hamburg and couldn't stop crying.
@paimanish:
You are going to have to explain your confusion...the poster's
comments were quite understandable.
Seriously, you baffle me.
"If I knew that you had robbed a store, and at one point I had stolen $20 from my father, does that mean I have no right to say "Hey, you shouldn't have robbed that store"? Of course not, that would be idiotic."
How about this: You are fingerpointing your neighbour who has captured humanbeings and torture them.
Same time you are having humanbeings captured and you torture them.
Why should one being concidered worse than the other?
You might try to turn it around again and say: why shouldn't we remember what happened to jews?
I answer: haven't we already heard about jews enough? even long before ww2 jews and magical 6 million figure were tossed around in newspapers. till today all we hear is jews this, jews that. It has become holier than anything else. just try to say something bad about jews, even if you're telling the truth, and soon you find yourself persecuted, lose your job and might even get murdered.
My question is: when is it time other peoples, who are not jews, voice to be heard? Haven't we heard enough of jews? there are many groups that have had it far worse than jews had. there are those who've been persecute, tortured and murdered by your precious JEWS and their numbers far exeed those of jews in ww2.
You might say remember jews, lest we forget and do same again. Well, it's hard to forget when it's shoved down our throat day in day out. Lets forget jews for now on , they've had way more than enough publicity and money. Lets remember all the other who has suffered and still suffer lest we forget like we have done because jews have stolen all the publicity.
Are you suggesting we make the Nazis look good?
shareI had a similar experience with "War and Remembrance". I was 9 or 10 when this film aired on television. I was in bed and woke up to sneak downstairs to take a peak. It just so happened to be one of the most violent scenes in the miniseries as it depicted, in great detail, the execution of the Jews by Nazi Death's Head units. Needless to say, I was never the same after seeing that and that scene has stuck with me my entire life even though it's been well over 20 years.
A bench-mark miniseries and something everyone should see. Especially the gas chamber scene with Sir John Geiguld
You all should also know it's only movie. There's no evidence for homicidal gaschambers, instead lots of unarguable evidence that there were none. You've just been fooled by jewmedias. Just do your own research and find the truth and reclaim back those lost 20 years stucked in a make believe story.
share"The Winds of War" was a lot better!
shareSorry to jump in so late, just picked up this movie and was checking out the page for it here on IMDB. Obviously alot of feelings back and forth about right and wrong, it does give pause. I remember a similar scene I saw in the late 60s about the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki which had the same effect on me, literally got sick watching some of that. Point was that my Mom did not send me out of the room, over 40 years later these images, Holocaust and other realities of "man's inhumanity to man" give me pause and insight into our condition.
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Lizzie_lefev, then you should NEVER watch the TV mini series "The Winds of War" and the sequel "War and Remembrance" (both with Robert Mitchum), because that's much harder to watch than the film on Buchenwald that you get to see in "Nuremberg".
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