tarantino does it better - Snatch (2001) Discussion

[–] linop90 12 years ago

Tarantino only had 2 good movies early on in his career.
Rest has been crap
Plus he ruins them by acting in them.

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I disagree mate and I don't know people keep comparing Tarantino and Richie films, they're very different imo. Though I will admit I didn't like this film as much, mainly because I saw Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels first and this film is just the same formula as Lock, Stock only with better stars attached to it, basically the Hollywood version of Lock, Stock and I thought the dialog on Snatch wasn't as good as in Lock, Stock.

Still, I like Guy Richie' writing style better than Tarantino's, though Quentin makes more entertaining films but this is due to the extreme violence in them, which I like.

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[–] Defenseman13 11 years ago

this thread fails hard, aside from the fact that art is objective.

This sounds like a redneck "Ford vs. Chevy" argument. Both directors have made unbelievably good movies, and several stinkers.

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[–] pambosk 10 years ago

I also disagree, a Tarantino film and Ritchie films are miles apart. Ok everyone compares this film to Lock,Stock and two smoking barrels, you might as well compare Pulp Fiction with Jackie Brown. The film was good, but it should have been able to go a little longer.

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[–] LTUM 12 years ago

Tarantino only had 2 good movies early on in his career.
Rest has been crap
Plus he ruins them by acting in them.

WHOA COWBOY, WHOA!!!!!!

no way, you need a redress here.

first off, i wonder which two you are referring to. likely reservoir dogs and pulp fiction? in that case, you are slighting jackie brown, a masterpiece of cinema. imo should be in the top 25 of all time

and recently, if you missed inglourious basterds, then you missed a great one. you truly did

give it a chance, and hit me back.

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[–] barclaym 12 years ago

Tarantino's best work was four rooms, reservoir dogs and inglorious basterds. I thought pulp fiction was highly overated. I think guy ritchie has a much better knack for dialogue and comedic timing. I would compare tarantino more with robert rodriguez.

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[–] LTUM 12 years ago

R D was great, yes. and original. he gets props for that.

i agree P F was overrated, but we all love the overthetop ness of it. and it was well directed, acted, written. also, it was fresh and full of juice, outrageous

i disagree about four rooms. that movie puts me to sleep. also, he only did one part, so..... (you being serious? i thought you must be kidding)

basterds, i loved it too. keep in mind he wrote it early on, so it fits more with the 90s IMO

(you omitted jackie brown? tsk tsk. that's my fave of all he did, period.)

i agree guy ritchie is great with dialogue and what not. two considerations there, though.

matthew vaughn gets at least as much credit for snatch and lock stock as goes does; it was just behind the scenes.

also, i believe the editor added a lot to guy's work there, so sometimes the director or writer get a boost from that, which is never mentioned when people are praising guy ritchie

(not to criticise though, i love guy ritchie too)

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compare tarantino to rodriguez? really? maybe as people, sorta, but not their work. i'd compare rodriguez to john woo before even considering tarantino. besides, tarantino is hugely dialogue heavy, and robert is way more cinematic/visual.

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[–] barclaym 12 years ago

I have to admit... I never saw Jackie Brown. I also completely forgot about Kill Bill. Excelent movie.

Four Rooms was a great movie, no joking.

Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez compared each other in Grindhouse. And Rodriguez bites alot of his style from Tarantino. (Machete?)

Matthew Vaughn does get alot of credit from me. He did Layer Cake, which I also enjoyed.

I just don't agree that Tarantino and Ritchie should be compared.

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[–] LTUM 12 years ago

oh i agree, tarantino and ritchie should not be compared. i don't know who started that but it wasn't me

i will try four rooms again but far as i recall it kinda went slow for me and i lost interest. i also disliked kill bill, so maybe we aint on the same page

SOT you may dislike jackie brown. seems a huge number of quentin fans hate that movie. if you want you can check out my thread over on that board

you think machete is reminiscent of tarantino? how? i don't get that at all.

also, remember that grindhouse was one of tarantinos later movies. i may argue that he was more influenced by rodriguez in that one, VS the other way. i just don't feel like death proof was a very good effort by quentin. he said so himself in that fiona apple interview in 2006 (or 7?) on sundance. i think he was trying to force himself into a style that does not fit him.

he said he felt like he fell off his momentum after jackie brown. i know there are a lot of kill bill fans too but still, it's one of the weakest for me. certain of his movies strike a chord with characterization, and that one is just, out there. i mean, anume? WTF? nah i hated that movie

and also that sookie yocky durango disaster thing he did. that was a joke.

btw i have a recommendation for you. you should try THURSDAY with thom jane. many people think tarantino directed that movie in secret. i bet you will like it. but you will have to buy it since that's the only way to get it (unless you want to download it. you can do that for free)

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[–] karaladh 12 years ago

Four Rooms is *beep* boring man :p

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[–] Sensimilla 11 years ago

Jackie Brown is easily his best

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[–] oh_no_mrbill 11 years ago

criminally under-viewed

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[–] Littlebitsofgaming 10 years ago

R D was great, yes. and original. he gets props for that.

RD was "original"?
Might want to backtrack that comment seeing as RD is a remake.

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[–] LTUM 10 years ago

you referring to kubrick?

what are you talking about...

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[–] edakener 10 years ago

whoa,,

tarantino and ritchie are both geniuses in their own ways.

rithcie seems to be an original thinker while tarantino likes to bite a little off older movies, you can't blame him, as students learn and put their spin on others stories. nevertheless both got skills

the 1 thing that i have not noticed anybody mention is tarantino's true romance.
true romance by far is his greatest movie. and all others pale in comparison

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[–] LTUM 10 years ago

im not disagreeing with you at all

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[–] LTUM 10 years ago

i think you replied to the wrong guy

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[–] vannacut 12 years ago

four rooms looks fun but didnt really like it, reservoir is good, jackie brown is cool, pulp fiction is good, basterds are good,
guy ritchie is good, tarantino is good, no they dont rip each other, they are both original in their seperate ways.

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[–] jeginvest 9 years ago

I only liked four rooms because it harkened back to Roul Dahl. I did not care for the film. Tarantino for the most part, in my opinion, is better than Ritchie though "Revolver" was exceptional. My two favorite from each is "Pulp Fiction" and "Snatch"(I will have to watch "Revolver" a couple of more times(at least) to feel whether I understand it and appreciate it fully. I personally like them equally though I find Snatch more entertaining and Pulp the better movie. I may be jaded as I watched Pulp so much 15 years ago or so that even after not watching it for all those years I can recite the lines as the actors are delivering them, I might have overdosed on Pulp so Snatch is more entertaining.

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[–] intacto123 12 years ago

i feel their films are different from each other. while tarantino's reservoir dogs is a remake of hongkong film city on fire. so i wouldnt call that great. but yes i love rest of tarantino's films.jackie brown is awesome. And for ritchie..am a fan of his work too...lexcept for revolvers and that movie with Madonna...rest are just bloody entertaining.

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[–] miguelreporte 12 years ago

2 good movies??

Pulp, Reservoir, Kill Bill, and Inglorious Basterds..

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[–] kungasagar 8 years ago

And Jackie Brown, Django Unchained, and The Hateful Eight.

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[–] Gdub33 12 years ago

Linop, I'm guessing that the only 3 Tarantino directorial projects you have seen is Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, and you must think he directed that episode of Golden Girls he was in or something. NONE of his movies that he has directed have been anything close to crap. The only movies of his that I find somewhat average is Grindhouse and Death Proof.

What movies would you consider "crap" exactly? I'm very curious as to why, because he is one of, if not THE #1 favorite director of mine.

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[–] aaron_33 12 years ago

Dunno why Ritchie and Tarantino are always compared, cause Tarantino kind of sucks...

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[–] sodomaniak 12 years ago

Tarantino does it differently!

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[–] slyle 12 years ago

This film tries to copy the quirky conversations about the mundanes (e.g. the scene about cow's milk) like Tarantino films, but I think Guy Ritchie was trying too hard. The conversations feel forced.

I would have agreed before I spent any time in London. The interactions I had with people there and hearing little parts of conversations while in pubs and restaurants convinced me that the dialog in his movies is very realistic.

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[–] coffeemann 12 years ago

well, I think the OP has never been to England, and never seen many English tv shows or movies, clearly has no idea about the people.
Richie didn't copy anything, except English street life.

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[–] wolf-peters 12 years ago

actually richie and tarantino are "rival" directors, as it was stated by both, so richie would never try to make anything that looks like tarantinos

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[–] BaKa420 12 years ago

There's no real need to compare them, they're all great films.

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[–] CeroneSicario 11 years ago

Not by a mile.

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[–] Typical_Tarantino_Fan 11 years ago

I agree with the OP.

Anything that has witty dialogue automatically imitates the great Tarantino. That is a fact.

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[–] dalldorfw 11 years ago

"Anything that has witty dialogue automatically imitates the great Tarantino. That is a fact."

Heh, heh. I like this guy.

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[–] schlob77 11 years ago

I really laugh at the Muppets who just HAVE to compare one to the other (whine about Ritchie copying Tarantino, who gives a flop). I really enjoy both of thier movies and could not care less who it better. Ritchie is brillant, Taratnino is brilliant and all you Muppet whiners can STFU.

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