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Should they have ended the film a few minutes later?


A really powerful film, and I suppose the final scene with the boat "Tomorrow" approaching is a symbol of hope. But is the Human Project really good? Throughout the film we just hear about it from people who've heard about it from people who've heard about it... we've never actually seen them (until seeing them on the boat, but we don't get any dialogue). Because of that, I'm left wondering.

If the film had gone on for another two minutes, and Kee boarded the boat, we could see how everyone reacts. I'm pretty sure it will confirm the hope. Does anyone else feel this way? I'm surprised because I didn't see any threads on it yet.

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No. Right after the last scene, when the credits start, we hear children laughing and playing. That tells us that the Human Project (which the ship is a part of) was real, they figured out a way for women to carry babies to term, and the planet is repopulated.


I don't want the world. I just want your half.

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@Fox_In_A_Box Yep, the sound of children laughing and playing was enough. We didn't need it to be spelled out to us.

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"Because of that, I'm left wondering."

That's what the film wants you to do. I even found the sound of children playing over the end credits ambiguous. Did it really mean women became fertile again? Or was it just meant to be a reminder of happier times, before the world had gone to pot?

In the miniseries of On the Beach for instance, there was a scene where two men in fallout suits walked through an empty town where all the inhabitants had died of radiation poisoning. They wander into a television studio and look around at the empty seats where audiences used to sit. There is a fading sound of applause as one of the men looks around the silent studio - it's not that he was hearing things, it was just a memory of how life used to be before nuclear war broke out. In a matter of months, the whole planet would be silent.

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@greg-233 I even found the sound of children playing over the end credits ambiguous. Did it really mean women became fertile again? Or was it just meant to be a reminder of happier times, before the world had gone to pot?
Ah c'mon. We hear kids playing, that means that there were kids playing. Don't let On The Beach turn you completely pessimistic.

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"Ah c'mon. We hear kids playing, that means that there were kids playing. Don't let On The Beach turn you completely pessimistic."

But there was another post-apocalyptic film released in 2009 called The Road. After some unexplained event, the landscape is a wasteland, cities are devastated, the sky is full of dust and ash, most of the animals and plants are dead, the few remaining people are cold, diseased and starving. (Though some have turned to cannibalism.) The two main characters were a father and son, who were trying to reach the coast. In one scene the Man shows the Boy how to commit suicide with a gun in the mouth if worse comes to worst. Pretty bleak stuff all round.

What became of the Boy at the end of the film is left uncertain. Over the credits we hear sounds of what the world used to be like when civilization existed and life was easy - birds singing, lawn mowers, garden sprinklers, neighbours chatting. It wasn't meant to indicate that humans had managed to avoid extinction and rebuild. Though some viewers, who hadn't read the original novel, did interpret it that way.

This is why I find the sound of children giggling at the end of Children of Men ambiguous. I actually thought it was a bit spooky when I first heard it. We also hear John Lennon singing, but that doesn't mean he came back to life. 

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@greg-233 Well, it was just kids playing - I think that's enough to make it clear that humanity will survive without saying that everything's going to be wonderful.

But I get your point about The Road, which I will definitely avoid watching because it sounds way too grim.

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The Road is a great film as well as this one.

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I like the bit of ambiguity at the end. Even Theo alludes to it (keep her close, Kee. No matter what they say"). Personally I think the Human Project folks are a benevolent group but you never know. The fact you only get a quick glimpse of these supposed saviors only adds to their God-like status

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@dayvit78 There was an interview with the screenwriters where they talked about how the studio wanted them to show the Human Project and spell it out that everything was gonna be OK, but they stood firm and just kept the sound of children playing. I think they made right decision.

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Well, I am always happy when the director/screenwriters can maintain their vision in the face of pressure from the studio!

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I disagree about the film needing to go on another two minutes. I saw the boat, it looked clean and had the word "Tomorrow" written on it. I was left with no doubts about "The Human Project", and I felt the story was complete. My assumption is that more women would slowly start getting pregnant and the world, although forever changed, would go on.

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