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Weak Rape Attempts...

posted 16 years ago by rip33
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...on the part of the ladies. They had a gun, all they had to do is make the man put his hand behind his back, bind up his arms and legs and make him give head (cunnilingus). He doesn't even have to be aroused for that. If they really wanted to rape men and they had a gun and their were 3 of them, they could have done it. If it was truly a desired goal they would not have made such WEAK attempts! This movie seems like it is pretending to face the possibility of female rapists without facing the issue head on. I bet if the makers of this film were making a movie about female bank robbers then the characters would be binding people with ropes and throwing them into vaults and cracking heads with the butts of their guns. However when its a movie about women trying to rape men, a possibility no one wants to accept, SURPRISE their imagination stops working! Does anyone know what I talking about?

[–] findanddestroyatlantis 16 years ago

What you're describing isn't rape. It's forcible sodomy. This movie was awful. Why quibble over fine points?

[–] rip33 16 years ago

What the hell are you talking about?C u n n i l i n g u s , look it up in the dictionary! I did not mention sodomy at all! I am saying that if these women were really trying to rape men they could have done so. There have been many real cases where female gangs of three or more have raped men and they would force the man to "go down" or other more realistic attepts. This movie is trying to make it seem like female rapists of men is not possible while at the same time pretending to address the issue.

[–] findanddestroyatlantis 16 years ago

What the hell I'm talking about is the broader, legal definition of sodomy that includes any sexual act other than coital relations between a man and woman, including, but not limited to anal sex, oral sex and masturbation. The crime you're describing would most likely warrant a charge of forcible oral sodomy rather than rape.

[–] rip33 16 years ago

Fine, so its forced sodomy by "legal definition". What about my point that the concept of a real female rapist dosen't get met! What you are saying does not diminish that point! This movie is trying to pretend to address the issue but at the same time trying to say "you see, another example of how a female rapist isn't possible but give us kudos for trying to address the issue, thanks". I have heard REAL testimonies and read REAL investigative reports of female rapists and what really happens, the examples in the film are weak!

[–] findanddestroyatlantis 16 years ago

What about this film isn't weak?

[–] rip33 16 years ago

findanddestroyatlantis, so you are saying you agree or disagree?

[–] findanddestroyatlantis 16 years ago

I guess I disagree with your basic premises. I don't think a man being forced to go down on a woman is rape and I think the goal of the girls in this movie was to emasculate and humiliate their victim and they accomplished that.

[–] rip33 16 years ago

Force cunnilingus was not the only thing I was reffering to. I gave you that one if you remeber. Real female rapists, (a problem in Africa recently), will use an armed threat to bind up the man and threaten further for sexual performance of various kinds. This movie was just as you said, WEAK! Its like they pretend to address the issue but at the same time try to make it look too difficult for girls to pull off by giving examples of half assed strategies. Its the type of movie someone would make if they wanted to brainwash people into thinking that there is no way this could be done by women while trying not to look like an effort is being made to persuade anyone of anything?

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[–] findanddestroyatlantis 16 years ago

I'm not buying your conspiracy theory. I don't think this was a film made to brainwash people, just a bad film. Poorly concieved and executed.

[–] rip33 16 years ago

I am not saying they were really trying to brainwash people, but please quit changing the subject, do you agree with my overall point!?

[–] findanddestroyatlantis 16 years ago

Is your overall point that the sexual assault could have been more intense or degrading? If so, yes. I agree. It was weak. I suppose they could have more accurately depicted female facilited rape.

What I'm saying is that it's a bad, nonsensical movie in every regard. I don't understand why you're so fixated on the "rape" seen. How about that bathroom going up in flames like the tiles were made out of cardboard soaked in kerosene?

[–] shamievr 16 years ago

As some of u have commented, the rape scene was totally weak. I mean when a man rapes a woman, all he is thinking about is his pleasure, not the victims. I would surely like to rape an idiot that did me wrong but I'd make it the most memorable for me, he would suffer!!!!lol!

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[–] zluze 16 years ago

Rip... why are you so obsessed with seeing a man get raped? Yeah, everyone knows that if a woman tried hard enough, she might find a way to rape a man... you happy?

Good Lord...

[–] ClintJCL 11 years ago

It's all "Sexual assault" in most places nowadays.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/clintjcl

[–] geekwench 15 years ago

You may want to look up the word yourself, since you're a bit confused as to what it means. Hint: it doesn't involve male genitalia.

That aside, this is the worst. movie. ever.

[–] BetaKappaZata 14 years ago

you must be a man hater. get over yourself

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