what happened to snowball
he was banished but where did he go after that does it say in the book what became of him?
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In the book (and this particular adaptation), it simply says that Snowball disappeared and we never find out what happened to him. The pigs later use him as a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong on the farm, but he never really returns.
In the animated film of 1955, however, Snowball's fate is much more obvious - the dogs eventually catch up with him as he flees and tear him apart (off-screen). I'm not sure though if this was George Orwell's original idea. Trotsky, upon whom Snowball was based, did flee to Mexico for some time, but he was assassinated by one of Stalin's henchmen eventually.
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i just read the book, it was really great. but snowball was blamed for destroying the windmill and was rumoured to be hiding on one of the neighboring farms, sneaking into the farm and sabotaging things and sending his agents among them, I thought these were lies made up by Napoleon but their were four pigs that protested at Napoleon banning the meetings and they were brought forth and accused of allying themselves with Snowball which they admitted and they were killed by the dogs. So were they actually in league with Snowball or did Napoleon maybe order them to lie and confess to they were planning to destroy the windmll with snowball so he would look more guilty, im sort of confused there
shareI studied this book a lot in high school, so I think I can clear up your confusion.
Well, the bits about Snowball sneaking onto the farm and having secret agents amongst the animals were originally all lies by Napoleon - the first windmill fell down, as the humans say, because it wasn't built properly, but Napoleon didn't want to show weakness by admitting it. After a while, the animals all began to assume that everything that went wrong was Snowball's doing, because this was what the pigs were telling them. Snowball was never actually returning to the farm though.
The four pigs who later confessed to be working in league with Snowball were actually innocent, they just disagreed with Napoleon, and might have carried on Snowball's ideas in the running of the farm, which Napoleon could not allow. When he accused them of being in league with Snowball and working with the humans to bring down Animal Farm, they were being terroised by the dogs, and made to feel so scared out of their minds that they confessed to these crimes in the hope that Napoleon would show them mercy if they gave him what he wanted. This of course didn't happen - the dogs immediately killed them, and Napoleon was able to rid of the farm of anyone who might have supported Snowball's ideals above his, and at the same time make his actions seem justifiable to the lower animals.
It is significant that one of the dogs also attacked Boxer in this scene, before the pigs confessed. Boxer did not realise it, but Napoleon was originally planning to have him dragged to the front and executed as a traitor, because he took so long to believe that Snowball could be a double agent (another of Napoleon's lies).
Hope that clears things up.
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shareI always thought that the reason the dogs attacked Boxer was because once they got the taste of blood, they wanted the biggest animal since they kinda went crazy for blood. No where in the book does it say Napoleon tries to do that to Boxer.
shareThat would have been quite a feat to drag Boxer to the front to be exectuted, I think it was because the dogs had the taste of blood, and I think it would have been fairly foolish on Napoleans part to do it because Boxer was the farms hugest asset in strength and making the farm run properly,
i think the way Napolean got back at him was when Boxer was tricked into being taken away in the glue factory box,there couldn't have been that much money that Napolean got for Boxer, I'm still not sure why Napolean would bother to do this though because Boxer was also not very bright and probably would never casue any political opposition whatsoever, his motto always being " I will work harder,"
I never had the impression Boxer was in real trouble - the dogs just got out of hand, as one might expect of the state's enforcers if they're not given a tight enough leash, to continue the metaphor.
share"i think the way Napolean got back at him was when Boxer was tricked into being taken away in the glue factory box,there couldn't have been that much money that Napolean got for Boxer, I'm still not sure why Napolean would bother to do this though because Boxer was also not very bright and probably would never casue any political opposition whatsoever, his motto always being " I will work harder,""
Napoleon sent Boxer away because he was no longer able to work and in fact would be a liability due to the bonuses given to animals that had retired.
So Napoleon decided to sell him and buy some more whiskey with the money.
I believe that Napoleon’s intention was to kill Boxer. Boxer was steadfast in his devotion to Napoleon. However, he publicly expressed doubt to Squealer’s assertion that Snowball was in Cahoots with the humans from the beginning. That moment of doubt outweighed his usefulness to the farm. The point of the executions was to show the animals that even the slightest dissent would result in death.
Boxer was also very impressionable, and seeing as he ws the one who would work hardest for a cause, it was a safe choice for Napoleon because if others animals could change his mind, Boxer would be a real danger. Therefore, he disposed of him after he was no longer directly useful to the task at hand.
Oh and something extra, the guard dogs in the movie: In the book, I was freakin terrified of the things because Orwell had them slashing other animals throats and stuff, but in the movie...they are border collies. Honestly, what are border collies gonna do? Herd sheep in your general direction?
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That explains it perfectly, I feel sad because Boxer was so devoted, but so dumb.
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There was also a moment when Boxer even tried to protect the pigs that were accused of treason, but to no avail. He was good-natured, but not very intelligent and his loyalty was never repaid.
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