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a Mike Patton question...


im a big Mike Patton fan and i was wondering... does anyone know what kind of roll he is playing in this film?

is he a lead character, supporting, or does he have like a 10 second walk on(like The Rock in the scorpion king)

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He was originally cast as Green Suited Man, which I assume meant he was in one scene, but I haven't read the script, so who bloody well knows. According to the official website, though:
"We have several cast changes as well as several incredible additions. The most exciting news is that we have successfully convinced Mike Patton to take a lead role, replacing Dennis Hopper as Frank."
Also on the website, Patton is billed as "Frank/David" so I guess its a dual role. Needless to say, when I received this information, I needed new pants.

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Is this a "Lynchian" film? I mean, dual roles, plus if Mr. Patton was to work with anyone it would make sense to be David Lynch.

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Mike Patton to be in a David Lynch film would be too good to be true. Though the thought of it is exciting especially if their was some weird patton music on the soundtrack. Someone should introduce Mr. Lynch to Mike Patton if they have not met already. It is no secret that patton is a huge fan of Lynch's work as well. It is kind of a shame that he is doing this very low budget film with a unknown director form Kansas who now bases himself in LA. Also just about every big name from the original cast has bailed out of the project. In my opinion the only thing that will make this movie is the presence of Mike Patton.

Patton should have been making films years ago. I have a strange feeling since the budget of this movie is under $50,000 it isn't going to be played at many movie theatres...in fact hopefully it will make it to a Blockbuster video at least but don't hold your breath this movie has been in pre-production for almost 3 years now. They are finally getting ready to shoot in October. The director is not that big in the film circles so who knows what to expect.


I would not even give this film a second thought if it did not promise to deliver Patton as the lead character...though I would probably check it out only if he had a smaller role as well. The bottom line is this film has taken a lot of time to even get financed and a lot of stock footage of kansas is being used and very low budget locations for shooting. Only the mighty Patton can possibly make this a cool flick as the Carnival guy who runs the freak show. I can only imagine MR. BUNGLES 1st CD with the side show artistry on the inserts and the freaky cartoonish circus sideshow clown music. Patton will play this role with ease.

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just because your paranoid dosent mean their not after you.

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I saw that the budget was low too. I believe it was in a interview with Steve Balderson. How do you know so much about the movie? Just from reading off of that Dikenga website and the other? I got my info from the net on this movie and I guess it was wrong too. It was stated that the budget was really low. So what happened to Dennis Hopper? I wonder if this movie will actually get played at many theatres all over the country? Most likely straight to Video after a few limited locations for its debut. So this film will change what I know? Ok?

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I just searched on line and saw where this movie cost $10,000,000. It was in an interview with the director. So I think you're all wrong, Brad. And the pictures on Mike's movie site rocked. You obviously didn't seen them - you should check them out. here';s the url:
http://www.dikenga.com/films/firecracker/photographs/index.htm
It looks like they shot at tons of cool locations. The cinematography is cool.

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re: "...the only thing that will make this movie is the prescence of mike patton"
what a ridiculous statement! do you know for a fact that all of the other actor's in the film couldn't possibly be as good at acting as Patton. have you ever seen Patton act in a film before?
also, what difference does it make what the budget is for the movie? what difference does it make if "the director is not that big in movie circles"? just because it's a small budget certainly doesn't mean it will be a bad or weak film. sounds to me like you're just talking to hear yourself talk. all i see written is a bunch of useless assumptions and narrow minded opinions. pretty pointless my friend.

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Patton is a big Lynch fan. a lot of the mr bungle gas mask stuff and a lot of quotes from the self titled album are taken from "Blue Velvet"

i too would love a Lynch film with Patton as the lead role as well as doing the soundtrack. because the two of them are so alike, it might not be as un-acheivable as we may think. it'd be a shame if it never happened, but at least we can appreciate both artists seperately.

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On the subject of a Mike Patton soundtrack, my brother and I had a good idea.
I dunno if any of you have listened to Fantomas's second album, Delirium Cordia, but we think that a movie could be made where the only sounds are this album. No speaking, just subtitles. The album has some sound effects in them and could easily be made into a pretty creepy Lynch-esque film.
Any thoughts on that?

P.S I dont actually own Delirium Cordia. I did but i returned it because i found it too weird. Since then I have come to realise just how much of a genius Mike Patton is, so i'm disappointed with myself

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delirium cordia is the third album from fantomas

you're forgetting about the Self titled release which consists of short tracks of experimental rhythm and noise. It's actually a very good album, and was fantomas' first release.

The fantomas/melvins cd is also quite good, it's a live recording titled 'millenium monsterworks'

the new fantomas album is scheduled to be released this april, it's a collection of nursery rhymes reworked by patton.. so probably going to be creepy.

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So go and buy the album again.

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I actually had the chance to work and be in the film with Mike Patton. He was there pretty much the whole time of filming. His role as Frank is a main supporting character, so you should see him in just more than one shot.
Also you will have to pay close attention to his duel role. He did such a great job it will be kind of hard to decipher the two.

P.S. Oh and Angel, listen to Sean, he knows what he is talking about. This movie is destine for an LA premiere!

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yeah he is the lead. and could they have picked a better person? no. not at all. i have a raging hardon awaiting this film.

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I hate it that mike decided to go more public by
starring in a movie... and i never thought he'd do something like this...
this film must be some extremly weird piece...
his music is the greatest music ever created,
something more brilliant than the first bungle album, the
fantomas records (did you listen to delirium cordia?
this man is ill, ill, ill...) and of course Tomahawk
does not exist.
Guessing from the scenery and the cast i assume this
could be some kind of a movie version of the first Mr Bungle record...
the cinematography looks very Lynchy, that's true...
I keep talking stuff, because i honestly do not know
how to feel about this...

I just hope this won't cause any hype or mainstream impact

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I hardly think that accepting a role in an independent film is synonymous with "deciding to go more public." I don't quite understand your feelings of betrayal, but I'll try to talk you down as best I can (I hate seeing a fellow Patton fan in distress).
I've read a couple interviews with Patton where they talk about how he got involved with Firecracker. He started out with a very small role and it got turned into a very big role (which occured because the director was "saving his film from being kidnapped" as Steve Balderson put it; I don't want to get into the whole backstory of the major casting changes at this time), and Patton made it pretty clear in the interviews that they pretty much had to twist his arms to get him to do the movie. He didn't want to do it at first, which may be some consolation to you. Apparently, eventually Steve Balderson said to him "What have you got to lose?" and he didn't have a good answer (he also said something along the lines of "I've pretty much made a career out of making a fool of myself so why stop now?").
Second of all, based once again on interviews I've read with him, Mike Patton is a very levelheaded guy. If somehow Firecracker became a HUGE success (which isn't all that likely considering it doesn't have a forty million dollar budget and it doesn't star The Rock or whatever) I'm sure Patton would have the presence of mind to continue doing what he does best: writing music. He's dealt with huge fame before with Faith No More, he's older and wiser now, and I'm pretty sure he'd just keep doing what he's doing and wait for the storm to die down.
I think it's best to sit back and enjoy the movie. The likelihood of him being in another one is apparently slim to none, so if it makes you feel better, you can count this as just another one of his experiments. :)
Anyhoo, I'm rambling, and I certainly I hope I helped ease your fears a little.

And yeah, as long as you mentioned it, Delerium Cordia is a beautiful album. I'm going to see Fantomas in about five weeks, I'm really excited. I've never seen them live before.

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I agree with Mr Santa Claus.

It sounds like a swell, surreal, arthouse, independent film. I suspect it will be on in the cinema but only at film festivals. Certainly not in mainstream cinemas. Who cares if it was only made with a low budget. You don't need a high budget to make great films. Independent films are the best kind of films. If you like a film for it's character movement and good story, I suspect you'll like this one. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. It'll be interesting to see how good Patton's acting is. I hope the film comes to New Zealand in the International Film Festival!

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You forget that he was once in a multiplatinum-selling band. Hell, in 1990, Faith No More was all over the place. Going public by virtue of this film my ass.

-Alec

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I don't know when it's going to be released. According to the website they just finished the final editing process and they're taking their time figuring out what's the best next step to take. They're being very careful with distribution and the like, which I think is a very good idea for this film (for any film, actually, but I'm not talking about every film right now). I'd hate to see Firecracker get into the hands of someone who'll screw it all up.
I've been waiting for this movie for at least three years so waiting for it to come out is especially difficult now, knowing they've completed it and it's just a matter of time, but I have trust that it will be well worth the wait, especially if the filmmakers keep their heads and proceed with caution. I know very little about the movie business, but what I do know sounds frightning and confusing, so when I really want to see a movie I'd rather have an accurate version than a hastily released one.
Anyway, my original point (my oh my, do I ramble or what?) was, if you want to, you could go to www.dikenga.com/films/firecracker and get on the mailing list. They send out a little announcement whenever the website is updated. It's nice to be connected.

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more than ten seconds, less than two hours

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