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Is Gooding a complete itiot?


Even civilians know that you don't salute non-commissioned officers in the military. Enlisted men only salute officers, yet Gooding can't stop himself from erroneously saluting noncoms and calling them Sir. Only commissioned officers are addressed as Sir. Either the filmmakers didn't bother to have a military advisor on board or they did and Gooding disregarded everything he was told making himself look foolish in this film. Clearly, he's not cut out for military roles.

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Actually it's spelled idiot.

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clearly you didn't watch the film properly - he saluted as a sign of respect and honor, not out of military code and when he saluted at the end of the movie at the start of his hearing he explained why he saluted "because of the gravity of the situation"

try watching it again before ripping holes in actors you moron!

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Gooding is not an itiot. You, however, are an idiot.

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Amen to that. Learn to spell before calling someone an idiot.

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u would have said , before calling some one an itiot lol

10 cant love one and 10 cant hate one

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I have to concur with the other posts on here - the continuity of the film is correct (on the saluting subject anyway), also Brashear does explain his actions at the trial when saluting, due to the gravity of the situation.

When you are going to berrate, insult or generally attack someone, it is utterly paramount that you ensure you spell correctly - all validity of your argument will be lost otherwise.

may I suggest you watch the film again, and rather than getting hung up about "split hairs", try to take in the points of the film, which is based on a true story -

the Human spirit can be indomitable
A Son Never Forgets
Bigotry has no place if society is to progress
we can do nothing about what happens to us in life, we can do everything about how we handle it.

i am sure there are many others that could be pulled from this story, if you care to look. go on, give it a try.....

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A salute is a gesture of respect, not fealty. One is required to salute superior officers. Saluting a Chief Petty Officer, or any petty officer for that matter, is a sign of respect, even if it isn't required. And, for your information, the Navy doesn't have non-commissioned officers.

You also have to take into account the period of time the film is supposed to represent. Blacks/Negros/African Americans were considered subservient; they always had to show respect in every way, shape, or form.

So the next time you choose to cleat your tongue, as you have done here, you should really check your facts before inserting your foot.

By the way, both Robert deNiro and Cuba Gooding, Jr, did a magnificent job of portraying military men.

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While the OP is an idiot for misspelling "idiot", he is right.

In the US Navy, if you salute an NCO you will probably be laughed at. And actually at his hearing, I could understand his saluting because, while we don't salute indoors, if he was covered and appearing before an official hearing, you salute. It isn't about being indoors or out, it's about being covered. If you're on duty, you're covered, and possibly if going to an official hearing.

Even as an officer, if I salute another senior officer one paygrade up, I'd probably get weird looks. Enlisted salute officers ONLY and junior officers salute officers at least 2 pay grades up (senior officers salute 1 up).

If you were to call a (senior/master) chief "sir", he'd probably laugh at you, give you a weird look or yell at you "I'm not a sir, I WORK for a living!"

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First of all you cant spell,second, only ex military types or people with an unnatural enthusiasm for all things military would know this,and i reckon i can speak for all the people in the IMDB universe,no one gives a French connection UK *beep* a fact like that,it just doesnt detract anything from the film or make it in anyway confusing,so thanks Cpt.Random what would we do without ya!!

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I agree with you about the OP.

I love your advice as well. "So the next time you choose to cleat your tongue, as you have done here, you should really check your facts before inserting your foot."

Sadly, you should have taken your own advice to heart when you stated... "And, for your information, the Navy doesn't have non-commissioned officers."

Huh.. Wha...?
In the US Navy (which I served)... E-4 and up were NCO's, Starting with Petty OFFICER 3rd Class



I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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... "Is Gooding a complete 'itiot'?"...

Oh the irony of it all...

"... making himself look foolish in this film".

I think that you "TongueFu", are the only person who has managed to make themselves look like an IDIOT and "foolish" by managing to spell the key-word of the post, given the subject matter, incorrectly in the title.

Hang your head in shame, and go stand in the corner!

Men of Honour is a film which deals with racial prejudice and social injustices suffered by America Americans, based on the true story of Carl Brashear, the son of a share-cropper, whose father's parting words to Carl as he boards the bus to enlist are to "never give up".

I implore you "TongueFu", follow the words of Carl Brashear's father; "never give up" learning to spell and occasionally check the dictionary!

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If 'itiot' means Legend then you're exactly right.

Also why are you addressing the actor?? meh...

Best Scene in Cinema history --> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

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... you dickhead, cuba rules!

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