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Cuba's Characters Motive....


...for being a "true American diver" despite living in an era where blacks are treated like *beep* is never fully explained. The movie just depicts him fighting through the racial injustices put before him but it never really explains his overzealous motives for doing so. This was a terrible film. *beep* Roger Ebert. OH WAIT!!! It's about HONOR. -- let's take a moment and reflect on that vauge words relevence to this film...

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lol ty

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I know that Hollywood will eventually remake this film because they always remake movies. For some reason someone thinks that they can make a movie better than the original and I hate to say it they cannot. Now if they do remake this film and explain as to what motivated Master Chief to endure and go through all of this to become the United States First African American Diver then I would definitely pay to go see it.

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I think the scenes of his childhood hint at his motives. When he is a young boy, he dives into the lake and swims to the bottom to explore the sunken pick-up truck. I take that as meaning he was born to do the work. Then there is his father telling him as a young man not to give up on his dream as he goes onto the bus for navy basic training.

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As a Black person, I can tell you what "the motive" is. Not having the choice to decide whether or not you want to be a navy diver or anything else you want to be, while mediocre and COMPLETELY unqualified whites not only have the option to try out but are advanced into supervisory, administrative, managerial, policy-making, legislative, and governing positions. And of course these chumps make up EVEN MORE rules and regulations that suit them and help maintain their FALSE sense of "white" superiority - clearly the ONLY thing they have going for them. And if they have supposedly "neutral, color-blind" rules, they apply them unfairly - the way they tried to in this film. Instead of de jure white supremacy, it's de facto white supremacy. The perfect example is when that white sailor in the barracks said "I don't care what the President says, I'm not bunking with a *racial slur.*" Or when Billy Sunday says "You ARE 'the best' but you're still not going to pass, because we aren't going to LET Black people become Navy Divers. So don't ever bother SHOWING UP for the test." Or when the commanding officer would rather LET CARL DROWN then let him pass. All to maintain the clearly false IDEA of supposedly "natural" white superiority and the undoubtedly false notion of black inferiority.

It's the same thing with trying to move into middle to upper class "white" neighborhoods and being told that even if you have the money and credentials, you can't live anywhere you want to. It's absolutely infuriating and it's undeserved because I didn't do anything to deserve this extra sh*t EXCEPT be born with beautiful visible African phenotypical features. Of course, not everyone wants to fight all the time, or have to watch over their shoulder for aggressively entitled, hostile whites. That's why my parents have ALWAYS sought out mixed-race suburban neighborhoods. You hope the whites there aren't uncivilized enough to actually harm you or your children, because they already live in a racially mixed neighborhood. You ALSO hope they aren't uncivilized enough to pull a "white flight" and cause disinvestment and a depletion of the the tax base in the neighborhood. http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_06_c-godeeper.htm In summation, being told what you can't do or be by white miscreants that aren't HALF as good as you are is "motive" enough for some people. Other people tend to be more like his “keep your head down and try to stay safe from white terrorism and violence by keeping to our forcibly racially segregated substandard spaces" wife. Many people don't want to have to deal with intransigent, savage white racists all the time - which is understandable. But some folks are different. Carl Brashear was one of them.

[Btw, about middle to upper class "white" neighborhoods/schools: yes there is more investment, but the trade off is living in a neighborhood with outright hostile, violent, entitled whites who'll try to physically harm you or phony, artificial, entitled whites who'll try to harm and harass you in passive aggressive ways. You also have to deal with white teachers who may stereotype or sabotage you. Or you have to deal with entitled white kids who do sh*t like tell their parents to shut the *beep* up, buy, sell, and use illegal street and Rx drugs, steal from their parents, other white kids, AND from stores but expect YOU to be perfect. Or even worse, entitled white kids who expect you to act like something out of a rap video, since THEIR ignorant white behinds gravitate towards meaningless commercial rap because THEY'RE more comfortable with one-dimensional Black stereotypes and caricatures than actual complex real life Black people.]

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Well said x 300000000

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Very well said sir!

I have great respect for Mr Bashear and any man who has had to endure what he has had to. Its simply amazing. These various people who were 'firsts' had to not only be good at what they did they had to be amazingly superhumanly exceptional in mind, body, and spirit..i wish i was one tenth the person that they were and are...

Its almost like the saying.. "because its there" but in this case its more like "they told me i couldnt"..

And that sir, is how the whole human race moves forward...

These people beat them and at their own game and i applaude them for their courage and honor.

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He wanted to be a diver way before he knew what prejudice was. The character he learned from his father kept him at it once he did know what prejudice was.

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