1. What were those guys hitting with hammers?
2. Any thoughts on the end?
Number one I can't help you with, I would have to go back and watch. For number 2 and this is really out of left field. When he destroys the big tree, I felt he had destroyed the tree of life. He had started the Apocalypse
and that is why the guy asks what have you done. That is the first thing that came to mind.
Are you talking about near the end, when everything is starting to fall apart?
They are hitting the two poachers in the head with the hammer. Remember the guy who got shot in the leg when they were trying to take the first little tree? Him and the other guy got whacked in the head buy the team of gardners. Personaly, who knew gardners were so militant? If there was some other bizaare hammer scene, I can't remeber. Hope this is what you were talking about.
Any idea why they want to hammer the poachers?
share1.the forest is the japanese society
2.the charisma tree represent the western ideology who slowly corrupt the ancient tradition and the new individualism who emerge from this tendecie.
3.the hero and the young guy try to protect those new value but the young never learn what is really freedom and thats why the charisma tree is fragile.
4.the women burn the charisma tree because they thing it's menace the stability of the society.
5.the others, the workers, try to make profit of this new ideology in selling it.
6.the old tree represent the imperialism in the japanese society, the hero try to renew it, he think he can transorm the imperialism in somethink else, make it more like the western ideology. but he understand that it's not gonna work, he understand that the western idelogy it's not good either so he destroy the old tree to make emerge a new ideology different of the western and eastern ideology and by that he create a new world, he destroy the base of the actual
society
Sorry for my english, im french if i had the chance to explain myself in french i'm sure that my idea would be easier to understand but i hope you understand.
Great responses.
Another question: who is the lady that talks to Yabuike and thinks he is the director? She tells him to set Kiriyama free. Seems like a dream sequence where the lady is the white-haired wife who in reality is suffering in bed.
ah, I had the same question about who got 'hammered' - initially I thought it was the director's widow and someone else but this makes more sense
I actually can name another movie that used a simliar 'hammer'-type death - the film 'Savior' with Dennis Quaid had a scene where a Serbian death squad leader murders people with a huge hammer-like club he takes out of a golf bag! (supposedly that scene was based on fact)
the woman who thinks Yabuike is the director is the director's widow who was being looked after by Kiriyama
this, for me, is one of those films you like but aren't sure why - Seance is similar in execution (ie 'almost but not quite') but he definately hits the mark with Cure
Have to say just watched it and i was like wtf most of the way through at the end. I basically came to the conclusion everything was a metaphor for something else but didnt exactly know what. I figured the guy took the role of god choosing who can live and die and the trees just represented that. Seriously though, do movies have to be this damn obscure to make a point like that? I thought it was interesting, and after i saw cure which i loved i started watching the rest of Kurosawa's stuff, all have been interesting but havent seen anything yet to touch cure.
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