Did you just fall in love with James Frain by the end of the movie?? - Where the Heart Is (2000) Discussion

[–] moviefreak02 18 years ago

I dunno..I kinda like him but I kinda dont. He just seems so weird to me, he seems awkward and the way he delivers some of his lines is pretty terrible. I think they could have chosen someone better, but I still love this movie SOO much and I dont mind him being in it. One of my favorite movies!

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[–] PiperGilmore05 18 years ago

I think he is sweet. He's not very attractive, just kind of normal looking, but that's what makes his character so great.:) I think he's just so kind and so loveable!

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[–] moviefreak02 18 years ago

yeah thats probably true..about the whole not being that attractive..he's just normal looking I guess, but your right, I think that adds to the movie.

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[–] Dreams_inthe_Mist 18 years ago

I loved him! He was one of my favorite movie characters - ever!

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[–] lythandrel 17 years ago

I think the intent was to make him appear a bit eccentric and moody due to having to care for his sister who drank herself to where she was dying. End stage liver disease/and or cirrhosis are progressive even though someone may stop drinking.

As I saw things, Forney was frazzled from caring for his sister, but loved her too much to resent it, so it came out in how he dealt with others. His friendship with Novalee gave him a new outlook, making him realise what light that love can bring into ones life, even if it's unrequited.

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[–] juke_armale 18 years ago

i just love it when in the beginning he seems like a total freak, but later on you realise how wrong you were...

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[–] noemi_55 15 years ago

haha when i first saw this movie i thought his name was horny and all i could think of was why someone would called anither person horny but then i saw the credits and saw his charcter's name was forney

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[–] paulb_30 15 years ago

Yeah, I mean, what kind of name is Forney anyway?

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[–] exatera 13 years ago

"Forney" isn't exactly much better - it's like short for "fornicator".

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[–] cherryangel 18 years ago

Yes so cute! Aww he was just so amazing sweet.

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[–] sshock419 18 years ago

At the beginning of the movie, I thought that Forney was supposed to be the local freak or something, but they did develop his character very well. By the end, the audience realizes that Forney is actually a very educated man. By the way, James Frain is actually a British actor, so his lines may have seemed a bit unnatural due to the fact that he was speaking in an American accent.

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[–] Kelea7 14 years ago

I knew it! He does a pretty good American accent but a few times I thought it sounded a little...well weird for lack of a better word. But I guess that worked for his character. And once I even thought I heard an English accent. I liked him in this movie, missed the beg though when I rewatched it.

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[–] TeaBunny 18 years ago

I don't get the whole thing with Forney's sister (I did not read the book so any help would be appreciated) was she an alcoholic and crazy (they mentioned a sanitorium; I am not sure what the diff is between a sanitorium and a santiarium?) or just an alcoholic? Sister was also but she went to meetings and had a good life. Why didn't Forney help his sister instead of letting her languish in bed all day for 9 years?

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[–] sshock419 17 years ago

I think it was mentioned that she was an alcoholic, that had finally developed liver problems caused by her excessive drinking. She was probably in the final stages of cirrohsis of the liver.

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[–] cachluv 17 years ago

I think he was hot. I love this actor, he's done such amazing work. AND he's hot. He was hot in this movie.

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[–] EP_saurus 17 years ago

I loved him in this movie! And he's really really good at doing an American accent. I mean, if I didn't know he was British, there's no way I would have been able to tell.

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[–] SweetSorcia 14 years ago

Why didn't Forney help his sister instead of letting her languish in bed all day for 9 years?

i'm assuming you don't know just a whole lot about people with addictions. the thing is, you can't just "help" them - they have to accept your help. forney's sister may not have allowed him to help her until she was beyond help. obviously he did his best ("i don't know how you kept her alive this long, forney"). the point is, you can't FORCE someone to act the way you want them to. if she was intent on drinking herself to death, all he could do was be there for her when she could no longer take care of herself.

"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"

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[–] TeaBunny 14 years ago

"i'm assuming you don't know just a whole lot about people with addictions."

Why is that the go-to answer for everyone who thinks they know everything? Yes I do know about it, which is why I know about rehab and hospitals. I cannot accept that there is nothing anyone can do but let a person lay in bed and drink for 9 years. How did she even get alcohol? It's a disease and you have to get help. You wouldn't let someone with cancer just lay there and die.

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[–] SweetSorcia 14 years ago

Yes I do know about it, which is why I know about rehab and hospitals.

i could reverse your same logic to you. but my opinion remains the same - with some people there really IS nothing you can do but watch them waste away. And by the way, I work on an Oncology unit, and you DO reach a point with people where you let them "just lay there and die." At some point, there's nothing left to be done but care for someone the best way you know how, even if that way has nothing to do with "curing" or "healing" them.

"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"

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[–] TeaBunny 14 years ago

So you bring them alcohol?

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[–] sevenof9fl 13 years ago

There's no magic bullet, no magic phrase or incantation you can give or do or amount of money you can spend or guilt trip you can put them on, crying, begging, reason, logic, persuasion you or anyone else can use on them if THEY DO NOT WANT to be an active participant in their recovery.

You can take people to rehab, take them to AA meetings, take them to the Dr., but at the end of the day, they'll find a way to get alcohol and die of cirrhosis of the liver despite what you or anyone else tries to do for them. Nobody can guard them 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

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[–] kellydofc 9 years ago

I dated an alcoholic and refused to buy him alcohol but he always found a way to get it. You can want to help someone and save them until the cows some home but unless they want to save themselves you're fighting a loosing battle.

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[–] Pr9mari05 17 years ago

NO.

I still remember what the little sh!t did in 'Count of Monte Cristo'. Same beady lil eyes... couldn't get into that character b/c of him...

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[–] chaumein 16 years ago

HAH! That's the movie he was in. Throughout this whole film, I was trying to figure it out where I had seen him before.

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[–] Sophie91191 17 years ago

I loved him he was so sweet and especially with that scene with americus where he is on the sofa!

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[–] Miss_Movie_Freak 17 years ago

yeah.

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