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Has anyone ever sat through the entire thing?


I know its not meant to be watched all the way throught (or maybe it is?), but has anyone watched this film in its entirity?

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Has anyone sat in a park and watched the Empire States Building for eight hours straight? I'm sure someone has seen this film in it's entirity (and I bet the artist laughed at them - "jokes on you fkrs!"). I wonder if Warhol was by the camera for eight hours. I've sat on a beach for close to that, but I had beer and people to watch. I don't think I'd be interested.

That's, just like... your opinion, man.

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I live in Montreal and in 1994 for its first time in 2 decades, the Festival of New Cinema was rescheduled from October to June. Anyway, Chamberland, the Festival's director, decided to screen Warhol's EMPIRE across St-Laurent Blvd. (Montreal's Main Street) during a hot June night, from 9:30 P.M. to around 4 or 5 A.M. At that time, I was living with that girl who was fond of out of norm experiments - like watching this 7-8 hour-long movie, sitting on her couch we brought on the sidewalk (it wasn't our idea of comfort, lying on the pavement for several hours). We actually stayed the whole night, watching the thing projected on a white wall across the street while cars and people passed underneath, eating, talking, drinking, smoking, reading the early newspaper delivery. Since there was really, REALLY no plot at all, and no dialogues nor sound of some sort coming from the screen, we wouldn't miss a thing if we were going for a piss or talking a few minutes to a friend passing by. It was indeed a fun experience, probably enhanced by the fact it was projected outside and on the street.

I remember reading that Warhol used most of his silent movies to project them on the Velvet Underground while performing on various Exploding Plastic Inevitable multimedia artshows, so I don't think these films (SLEEP, COUCH, EAT, etc...) were destined to be watched alone, in a dark screening room. If people want to do it - and probably many have already done it -, it's they're thing. If they want to share it here - or elsewhere - hey, why not?

But as for me, I wouldn't say that screening night of EMPIRE would have been so special if it wasn't for its context.

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That outdoor projection sounds great, especially if you had someone there to talk to while it was going on. Lying on lawn chairs on the roof maybe, talking to a friend, Empire playing on the street below, sounds memorable. I saw it playing at the Museum of Contemporary Art in Chicago, but they only had a short bit of it, like 90 minutes, not the whole thing. I probably wouldn't want to go to a museum and watch one thing all day anyway. Maybe outdoors with nothing else to do, but not during the day wasting precious museum time! That's it I guess, bye.

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Wow, that's exactly my idea of a romantic evening! And I mean it!!

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Me too, I can feel it all as I think about it, it'd be really nice! I'll tell you what, find somewhere that's playing Empire, take your date to a "suprise movie" and if they like it as much as you, they're a keeper! Say, wanna go to a movie?

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thats perfect!
haha.

i also know Jum Morrison watched this movie in its entirety,

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this is just one of those awful avant garde movies that you see thinking it is something else, and end up having to watch cos the only other dude in the cinema wants to be there, and if you leave he'll think you are some kind of a plebian and a philistine.

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I watched it for a few minutes. I think it would be cool to just have it on, like in the background or something. But I don't think I could watch it for eight hours.

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I have watched it 4 times. Some of my friends and I are having an Empire party this weekend

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That actually sounds great in that context haha. Good story.

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Thank you for sharing your story.

This sounds like a film that should be played in the background of an art museum, as you have so slightly put it. Nowadays, with traffic cams, everything is filmed in real time, and can be sped up if need be.

I'm astonished for something that was produced in 1964. It's like Andy Warhol knew what the future was going to be like, à la George Orwell's 1984, even if it was or wasn't intentional.

I did preview some of the footage on YouTube. It's a shame that he didn't include any of the scenery from that era. It would have been nice to see people's reactions back then.

I only knew about this from the Angry Video Game Nerd's (AVGN) review of Desert Bus. I was shocked to learn that there's actual footage of the Empire State Building being filmed for eight straight hours.

I knew of shorter films that existed, i.e. Passage de Venus (1874) (Series of photographs of the transit of the planet Venus across the Sun in 1874.), and, Roundhay Garden Scene (1888) (In the garden, a man asks his friends to do something silly for him to record on film.).

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Yes.

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youngtel: where did you get a copy?

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Yeah me and 8 about 20 other people did. We had a big acid party and had it playing on a screen against the wall. Be had it going on the whole time. Not everyone was paying attention to it, but it is an interesting thing to have on special occasions as such.

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The film stock alone would have cost a bundle. At least it didn't need to be edited. I guess it would be great playing it as a background visual at a swank restaurant, but you've got to have too much time on your hands to watch the entire film all the way through. Andy could have used a time-laps technique to get the desired 'dusk-dawn' effect.

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The movie had a premiere in the Factory, but I don´t know, how many of Warhol´s colleagues stood it through.


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people that don't appreciate this film and think it stupid simply do not appreciate the whole point of pop art, the most original kind of art ever invented.

by the way, you don't watch the whole thing, you couldn't possibly and you're not meant to. You are only supposed to look at it for a while and move along in th eexhibition. many people have attempted recreations of this in art exhibitions, only problem is that once it has been done by an artist the size of Warhol, everyone else looks like a pretentious imitator.

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I watched the whole thing at a private party years ago.

As it gets darker, the building itself seems to disappear behind the lights, leaving nothing but an abstract glowing shape. Very odd phenomenon.

If I ever became Dictator of the World, I'd decree that everyone on Earth watch the film all the way through at least once. Just because.

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It's actually screening July 24th at the Anthology Film Archives in Manhattan NYC. Apparently if you sit through the whole thing you get a "Special Prize" at the end. Hopefully it's not a picture of Nelson Muntz going "HAHA!"

What I wonder though is if I could bring a book to read through some of it, or maybe bring something to eat... then again I wonder also if I wouldn't get the prize if I got up just to go to the bathroom. Maybe I could bring a water bottle to pee, but to poo... whatever, I dont want to think about it.

It is a challenge though, and I would go just for the challenge of it, like an endurance test. Certainly couldn't be worse than After Last Season or Manos: The Hands of Fate.



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I was at that screening. I sat in the front row, and didn't move, for the whole 8 hours. Exactly 20 people in all stayed for the whole thing, and many of them had seen it before (it was my first time, but I would see it again in a heartbeat).


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Wow, amazing. I imagine the nice part about the film is that your mind can wander to other things as you watch it, much like just staring out a window for that long a time (I think Warhol's whole thing of just "staring" at something cinematically comes from him being bedridden as a kid and unable to move).


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Warhol's ideas are far more complex than the uninitiated or the pseudo-initiated give him credit for. Since he was essentially performing most of the time, when people were documenting his actions, i.e. interviewing him or filming him, people don't understand or haven't investigated him enough to know that this was a performance, and that he was a very articulate and thoughtful person.

The funny thing is my mind wasn't wandering, per se. I mostly felt more like I was meditating. My mind became very quiet and focused. It was an organic, natural thing and it was wonderful to experience.

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There's a rummer that John Waters managed. I guess if anyone could do it...

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