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one of the worst movies i have ever seen *spoilers*


I have to say i just finished watching this rubbish. omg is this movie is just bad. there are so many basic plot problems that just make me wonder how no one at any point didn't say "none of this makes any sense"

ok you have a wallet money is gone, i get that, that's a no brainer. but all the cards and stuff are still there. that's still fine as i have had my wallet taken and why risk using the cards. but why would anyone take a license, it doesn't make any real sense to take it, if your going to take someones photo id then your the same sort of person that will take there credit cards too

ok saying there was no photo id in there in the first *beep* no one has a wallet with no id in it. unless your 18 and under there is no reason you wouldn't have it.

then there is the phone call. so the guy calls victor and said hey i have a wallet and your number was in it...if you know the guy tell him i have his wallet.

1. you find a wallet with a name and number in it. A name with a number doesn't mean *beep* i have numbers with names all the time in my wallet of people i hardly call friends. numbers of dealers "i smoke weed" a repair guy for my car. so you get an answering machine to a guy you have no idea who they are other then a number and a first name and you tell them you found a wallet and give them your address!!! stupid!!! any person with common sense tells me that you call the number you get the guy to call you back with the guy your looking for if they don't give details you don't give up the guys details then that's bad luck.

2nd the only person that knows to turn up to that address is victor. so explain why he would call up his in-law. the only other possible reason is victor's wife hears the message too and she calls him while victor has other ideas. seeing that the real avery turns up at the end you have to assume the other guy is victor...well who else could it be whe they know about stuff like his kids birthdays and parking fines that's way to detailed for a random person to know, *beep* i wouldn't know about parking fines of people in my own family unless they bitched about it. so if it's victor, there are a number of ways it plays out. avery goes back to victor who now has a massive scar on his face can't really lie about where he was. why would he be there if he didn't have dishonest intentions. sure he can lie and say the guys attacked me and the cop took the ticket, but he would never be able to spend the money around avery.

3. why swap the tickets! stupid!!! swapping the tickets means you are aware of the tickets value. now if you don't put your lotto ticket in there. you just hide his one and use your one for the game as you planned your all good. when victor/avery comes pick up the wallet you can just say it wasn't in there. but when you switch the tickets there more likely to say "these arn't my numbers, the only reason this ticket is here is your trying to pull a fast one over me".

next issue why are all these guys so uptight about a card game before it even starts? they are acting like they all have winning tickets. tepper has alot on his mind and he is trying in a sense to steal $6m right in front of the guy so i understand him being on edge but all the other guys they are all acting like they have the winning number when really under normal circumstances tepper would be doing his best not to act weird and in effect acting weird and all the other guys would assume it was nothing more then nerves of asking his girl to marry him. sidenote: if he didn't swap the tickets you could have had it play out that he reaches into the wrong pocket and puts the winning ticket out instead of the dud and he plays the game knowing 6m is at stake and victor knowing it too while everyone else is just having a friendly game.

quigley smashing the bottle...wtf, why? tepper won the old man was about to get kicked out granted nothing was above board about how it played out but tepper would kick victor out then if those quigley wanted to say i call bs he could and they could figure out a way to get away with it together. eg: tepper stays with one of the other guys just leaves everything behind they collect the winnings and split it 4 ways victor wouldn't really be about to do *beep* because tepper would get someone else to cash it and u don't have to go public with you lotto win anyway so he would have no way to find them other then teppers old address.

when the guy is willing to split the cash you get all moral!!! stupid!!! so when it gets down to it he wants to do the right thing how sweet, but what a load of c..., even if that was the case this guy spent the whole night lying his ass off then just goes omg the money isn't worth fighting over it's his afterall he bought the ticket blah blah blah it's weak writing and it would never happen *beep* if i was quigley i would kick his ass and take it. to me that whole part should have been rewritten or just tossed out a character doesn't grow that fast he doesn't spend a whole movie doing one thing then just flip when it all become too hard.

my final point is these guys spend so much time talking about nothing its beyond a joke, and by nothing i mean it's all plot related they never just really sit down at the table and just shoot the *beep* they are all sitting there playing like they have never played before and that they all know the money is on the table when really all these guys would be talking about is movies women and hypothetical in which they would turn gay, do something for a million dollars, who they would have sex with and just general commentary about the world the way it is.

if they wanted to make this movie work what you do is take the first scene from res dogs and you make the whole movie like that. you have the 3 other guys just shooting the *beep* while trying to win a friendly game of cards except you have the 2 characters tepper trying to "play it cool" knowing there is 6m on the table then you have the real avery be a lonely widowed man playing with them knowing there is 6m on the table and in a sense is just happy to be give a 1 in 5 shot at winning his own ticket back but in a sense more happy to just have people around him. while the night goes on have tepper hear more about avery's story and respect him and when it gets down to the 2 of them he isn't sure if it was fair to put something on the table that wasn't his to begin with and question if he should just lose the game to let avery have whats his.

then you play it out 1 of a number of ways. 1 avery says something like you didn't have to call me you could have kept the wallet and i would have never known so just being here playing with you has been alot of fun. then have avery win the final hand and while there discussing next weeks game, with avery getting an invite back by all the guys and have one of 3 things happen as there just sitting there shooting the *beep* have him have a heart attack and die. 2 have avery win the hand they shoot the *beep* and he gets the invite back he cashes the ticket and dies afew months later leaving everything to the 4 guys. 3 as they get down to the final 2 avery goes all in but makes the boys an offer if they let him keep playing with them they split the winnings between the 5 of them if there is a winning ticket the 3 guys see it for what they think it is just an old man wanting an excuse to hang with them so the 3 of them say yes not really putting any thought into the money as it just really unthinkable that they would have the winning ticket where as tepper knows he knows there is a winning ticket on the table and he is willing to split it with them.

the other way is have avery say it's ok to keep playing and have tepper win. have the game end and everyone just shoot the *beep* and avery pack up his stuff to walk out the door looking like he not only lost 6m but that he was about to go back to his lonely world then the guys yell out over there shoulder "same time next week" then have avery look puzzled then have tepper shoot him a look and say "you know if your not buzy"

final one get to final 2 tepper wins he makes the call to find out if he has won, as expected he has won 6m dollars. the guys are a mix of happy and mad because they would have tried harder if they knew or wondering how close they came to 6m. then the guys ask what he is going to do with the money he says well i have been thinking we all came to this table with nothing and we are all friends here so we should split it "wow 1.5m each" no, "1.2m there is 5 of us here" have the guys not really sure why he would give 1.2m to a guy he just met but knowing it's his money and whatever they really don't want to question it. where as avery knows it's just about doing the right thing

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I've been noticing lately that nearly every single movie board on this site contains a "worst movie ever" post. This is seriously THE most tired and overused phrase on IMDb. It's hard to take anyone seriously that says it anymore. This is one of the worst you've ever seen? Watch more movies, lol.

In terms of all your problems with the movie. Most of them can be cleared up by watching it and actually paying attention. I'm not going to give a blow by blow of all of your points because honestly, I have a life and don't have time to dissect your very looooong rant.

"The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that's wrong with the world."

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They didn't say worst movie ever, they said one of. Which I am inclined to agree with, it was awful. Character actions make no sense, dialogue makes no sense, how the fake Avery knows so much about the real guy makes no sense (bus driver, parking tickets, etc.), coincidences become unbelievable, the acting is bad across the board, and the whole thing just needed to be well written with such a minimal amount of cast/settings.

That's the thing about movies that are like a play, if you only have one location and a couple of characters, it has to be EXTREMELY well written. This had almost no thought put into the writing, and clearly sprang from some amateur writer who had an outline of an interesting plot and thought his first draft was perfect as is...


"What? Do you wanna just sit around and be wrong?" - Liz Lemon

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Victor was Avery's brother in law...that's how he knew so much.

And I agree...this would've been ok as a play...but a little weak.

And yeah...it was lacking some serious character development but I came away liking this movie. I think that it was a good first effort for Probst. I just wonder how the career for the guy who played Bolan is. He was the only person that I didn't recognize in the movie.

And to the OP...if you think that this is one of the worst movies ever...I applaud your movie viewing selections...because you haven't watched any truly awful movies. I've seen many many movies that are much much worse than this. Like the other fellow said...watch more movies...

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Yeah i got that, but go ahead and tell me how many parking tickets your in laws have. He knew too much, that was the point...


"What? Do you wanna just sit around and be wrong?" - Liz Lemon

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Now I'm not close to any of my in-laws...but I would know how many warrants are out on them. I would likely know more if I lived in the same town as them and saw them often. Plus...doesn't every family have a person that is really nosy...and knows everyone's business? And passes that info on to other people in the family. So knowing that much about your brother-in-law doesn't seem so far-fetched...

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In terms of all your problems with the movie. Most of them can be cleared up by watching it and actually paying attention.


Nope. In fact you've got it completely backwards. The problems with this movie only become clear if you actually do pay attention to the movie. If you just shut your brain off and say "entertain me, idiot box" then i supposed it would be a lot easier not to notice just how awful this movie was.




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"I've been noticing lately that nearly every single movie board on this site contains a "worst movie ever" post. This is seriously THE most tired and overused phrase on IMDb. It's hard to take anyone seriously that says it anymore. This is one of the worst you've ever seen? Watch more movies, lol. "

Thank You. Finally someone pointed this out.. It IS on every movie board, no joke. Reminds me of the comic book guy on The Simpsons. "Worst___ EVER!"
I have some points of debate about this film but it by FAR is not the WORST movie ever... Not even close lol



"Daddy, would you like some sausage?" - Tom Green, "Freddy Got Fingered" 9/10

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What I don't get is this. So, if we assume that James Earl Jones character is in fact Victor, then why would he have told his brother in law about the call, then gone to the house? Are we to assume that Avery had told Victor there was a winning lottery ticket in it? I don't really know, there are a lot of loose ends and unanswered questions in this, which I usually don't get all precious about but this just leaves me a little uneasy

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