of her mother? This seems a little bit of a common place. I drink and it's my parents fault. It takes away all responsability of the decisions we make. Sure it's a major problem, and parents should know better but unfortunately they're humans too and make mistakes. I just think that her motivations for her drinking should have been left out. That's just my opinion.
Sry, english not my first language.
Well not exactly. It is proven that children born of alcoholic parents have a higher chance of becoming alcholic. It's not a guarantee but it can happen. Case in point. In the movie Sandra Bullocks sister is obviously not an alcoholic but Sandra Bullock is.
Now all that said, an adult child can't really blame their parent if they become an alcoholic themselves. The most they can do is just understand that they already had the gene in place for alcoholism. It's up to the person to act or not act on it.
Um..yeah, science nerd here. If you have a gene in place for a particular trait, choosing whether or not to act on it is beyond your control-- can you control your eye color or , heaven forbid, whether you're diagnosed with a genetic disease? Alcoholism may run in families due to certain dynamics or behaviors, but I've never heard of it being genetic.
Another science nerd here. It's not as simple as that. Most traits are neither purely genetic nor purely environmentally determined. It's a spectrum ranging all the way from entirely genetic to entirely environmental, with most traits falling somewhere in between. Alcoholism is undoubtedly somewhere in between as well. So what you get is genes that give you a statistical predisposition that can steer you away from or towards becoming an alcoholic. It certainly is not completely determined by your genes, in the sense that if I have gene A, then no matter what I do, I will become an addict. Then again, it's quite clear that some people are just more susceptible to certain (types of) addiction than others, and there is very likely to be a genetic component to that. But there are many behaviors that have a genetic component to them that we can choose not to engage in - basically any time you inhibit an instinctual response, that's what you're doing. So I don't think the idea that a person has no control over their addiction because it has a basis in genetics is valid (or at any rate, only to the extent that you are willing to be a free will skeptic to begin with).
shareI think the chance of becoming an alcoholic is 50% if one of your parents is and 75% if both of them are.
shareThat's the life she knew growing up. Add to that the pain from losing her mother and her complete lack of coping skills and you get an addict. It's not about blaming it on her mother, but that's who she learned from.
As an adult, I recognize that many of my issues originated from my parents, but it's my responsibility to continue with or alter my patterns. My parents have nothing to do with it at this point in my life.
Alcoholism is genetic and childhood trauma could easily turn someone into an alcoholic.
sharePersonally speaking as a child of alcoholics & an alcoholic myself, I cannot tell you if I drank because I suffered trauma young, learned the behavior, or it's genetic.
But whatever caused it really doesn't matter because it's my own personal responsibility to work on my sobriety.
I don't think it was the entire reason. I think her mother was an alcoholic, and then she died, her sister even admitted at the end that when she was little, she didn't pay attention to her, she would walk home alone from school and all that.
I had an uncle that was an alcoholic and a drug addict, he was the youngest of 9 siblings, and he was the one that didn't have much of a father figure, his father (my grandfather) died when my mom was 15, and she was about 7 years older than my uncle (he passed away before even being 50), since my grandmother was working all the time trying to support about 7 children (I think 2 of them had already married or at least had jobs by then), she wasn't around much, and he had nobody to guide him or set him on the right path, so he started hanging out with the wrong people. By the time anyone realized what was going on, it was too late, he never recovered, and the last time I saw him, he looked about 70, even though he was only 45.
What I'm saying is, she might have had a head start from her mother being an alcoholic, but that wasn't the whole story.
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A good example: look at the crazy stuff the mother did with her daughters? Slaying down the snow on an upside-down table and almost ending up on the street being run over by a car!
You grow up with a parent like that, chances are you're going to think that's normal behaviour, and guess what, she did basically the same *beep* her mother did.
It seems perfectly reasonable that she became an alcoholic, and yes, it started with her alcoholic mother. The girls learned way early to be self-sufficient and if they absolutely needed an adult, they didn't call for help, they gave mom a smack in the face to bring her around. When the mother died, Lily more or less normalized, but Gwen continued to operate independently--no one helped her with homework, no one walked her home from school. The aunt was clearly warmth & fuzzy-free so Gwen simply soldiered on, taking care of herself.
As she got older and had problems, she didn't call a friend and unload, she didn't set up counseling, she didn't go to the gym for a killer workout, she drank. A/k/a "self-medicating." She celebrated her own victories with a toast and softened up the setbacks with a shooter.
Plus, like her mother, it turned out she was, and had, lots more fun after a few belts.
(I imagine there was some truth in Gwen's toast at Lily's wedding. Lily probably did pick a mate based on his solid dependability instead of mad passion.)
If your life's been touched by alcoholism--and whose hasn't?--this is an excellent movie.
Lily is damaged from her alcoholic mother too. She over compensates by needing ultra control over her life. In alcoholic families there will be family members that feel responsible and try to fix everything.
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behavioral.
"the most important thing is having fun....."
It would be nice if this was how rehab really was. Instead, you have a very small room with one window that can not be opened; no mirrors in the bathroom, just reflective pieces of some sort of metal that cannot be broken; no shower curtains; groups every hour that are compulsory; one tv in a room with long tables with wooden chairs; three vhs tapes of old, bad movies. The only time you get snacks (4 graham crackers and a coke) is if you happen to be at the locked door of the pantry when it is unlocked twice a day. NO going outside and certainly no field trips. No smoking. Let me say that again. No smoking, but plenty of nicotine patches. I think the best part of all was the guy who was supposed to be on the medical ward, but instead was given a room on the psycho hall and ran up and down throwing his poo all over everything.
Big fun and incredibly expensive.
She did it! She did it! The lady with the grape!
Rehabs clinics can vary from no-frills bottom of the barrel dumps to ultra-posh spas. In my opinion, 28 DAYS portrayed a very nice one, but was not even close to how elegant some rehabs units can be.
-AnaElisa
I've been to four rehabs. Two private and two government. Outdoor smoking was always permitted as well as snacks available whenever you wanted them
shareIt's been scientifically proven that the first born male of an addicted father has an over 50% chance of being addicted to a substance during their lifetime. I have proven this in my own life. I know this has nothing to do with this movie but it is an interesting fact in the world of addiction.
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