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Impossibilities - Not credible robbery


Nice heist movie. But, there are certain facts that don't seem true in the story:

1. Euro currency banknotes designs (blueprints) are not kept in US. Do they? They are kept in Central European Bank. Right?
2. Moreover, if they were kept in the US too, they shouldn't be in a simple bank safe box (in a cd-rom). Right?
3. Moreover, if they are supposed to be safe-kept there, how did she know where are they kept? It is supposed to be hightly-top-secret! Isn't it? The bank they robbed was an ordinary bank, the box she opened (where the cd-rom was kept) was one of many common safe boxes. Not a state box or a special one. Just an ordinary box for common people, where usually jewlery are kept.

All these are not so much cradible. Are they?

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Yeah pretty dumb straight to video movie.
I liked the beginning voice over though. Tom Sizemore is always pretty neat.

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i thought the principle of it was credible. I was under the impression that the documents were obtained by another 'crimanal.'

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The mi5 (like the cia and/or the fbi) in england keeps loosing there laptops with top secret stuff on them in taxies so why wouldt the euro blueprints not be in a totaly anomenus bank box ? Hide what you dont whant anybody to finde in the open, who the *beep* wouldt look there ? Another thing is that the euro blueprints was never really thought throug since one of the coines was the excatly same size as a wortless coine from some easten asian contry.
Well im on my second bottel of wine so i enjoyed the flick Tom Sizemore is always cool and i really likede the dude playing Lukas... Possibel or not for a boring night like this it was great

Peace

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i thought the principle of it was credible. I was under the impression that the documents were obtained by another 'crimanal.'
Yeah, same here, basically. Remember that anyone can put anything in a safe deposit box--no one else needs to know what you put in; bank employees will give you privacy as you access your box, they are not allowed to just go snooping around in your box, etc. You can easily put illegal things inside. Police would have to have obtain a warrant to search the contents of your box, and to obtain a warrant they need to present evidence to a judge justifying the warrant. Especially for a criminal who probably has multiple ID's, a safe deposit box can be one of the safer places to hide illegal items--they just need to fit in the box.

I figured that Fenn's character found out that someone had the templates on a disc in a safe deposit box--probably illegitimately--and decided that she needed a copy, too. We don't know exactly how she found this out, but it's not important to the story; it's sufficient to know that she's a connected, experienced criminal, which is well established. It's also well established that she had researched/scoped out the bank and that she had even become friendly with a couple employees (and there are subtle intimations that she may have even had more of a history with at least one), so it is believable that she knew which box to go to.

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So why did the bank manager be allowed to walk out without being interviewed?
And there would have been numerous officials asking to see what he was carrying out of the bank,plus they would have all employees under close watch until all the money was counted.and he was walkig out with a big wad of money.

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Sure they always keep a copy in a local bank deposit box ;)
This is just another movie with has-beens and almosts that was probably made on the cheap and almost got to the big screen. Oh so close, maybe with enough in rentals it got some of its investment back, lots of these made every year. Without these throw away films what would TV stations play on their midnight movies?

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Spoilers all throughout:

From what I gathered, she knew about it from the bank manager and he was possibly even the mastermind behind it all or at least the catalyst for it even happening and how she knew about the disc. I thought he was playing everyone and knew the about it all the whole time and let everyone else do the work while he had the alibi and ability to stroll right out with everything gift wrapped for him. That's why she didn't care if the he saw her face downstairs because he was in on it, she just expected her cut and put up the act for Seth. If Seth's theory about her staying down there pretending to be a hostage were true, it couldn't have worked since the bank manager had seen her unless he was in on it, or at least she thought he was in to help her.

When Seth was confronting her at the end about her plans to pretend to be a hostage down there, that's when he should have realized the manager was in on it since her planned wouldn't have worked unless she had killed the manager with Seth's gun and not let him go back upstairs. As soon as she let him go after seeing her, he should have realized the manager was in on it, especially after confronting her later, not when the manager was walking off at the end.

This is how I see it happening. She said the French had still been using the same old technology, which tells me this has been a longstanding plan. Possibly the manager had set this in motion years before. She obviously knew him as in the beginning it was clear she had been in the bank MANY times before since she knew everyone and they were so willing to just let her go in and have her way which was part of his plan. He either knew it was there from being a bank manager and somehow discovering it, or he knew about it years before and becoming a bank manager was a long standing cover and part of the plan to put him in better position to get it, either way that's how he was able to let her know about it and that's why she was so confident as she assumed she had an inside source.

So he says to himself, "Hey, how can I steal this thing and get it away with it? I know, I'll get a crime boss to steal it for me while making it look like some other pawns were just trying to rob the banks cash. They are happy with getting the cash and nobody even knows what real jewel was even stolen."

Either that happened, or he just had quick thinking at the end when he grabbed her case knowing what she had done. But if that were true, unless she stuffed it with cash, which she didn't, he would've had no use for the contents in the case. That's what gives it away. Unless he already knew about it and could use the copies she made, he would have just opened it up and probably not even known what the heck he was looking at, much less find any use for it if he was a civilian as he tried to portray.

It's strange as soon as she was shot, Seth didn't make it a priority to secure such sensitive material. I'm guessing since all the suspects as far as he knew were dead, he could just leave it as evidence, or he just forgot about it or didn't really care. Either way, when he saw the manager with the case at the end, it all came together for him. As a cop, he should have gone after and gotten the case, but he just laughed and let it go it seemed.

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