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So this masterpiece will soon be out of the top 250...


but that phoney film that tries to turn the Holocaust into a game with that lame one-note performance by Roberto Benini will still be in the top 100. Oh well just a microcosm of how flawed the list is.

No shame in a movie not being on the list anyway. Do The Right Thing, Beauty and the Beast, and Brokeback Mountain aren't there and they're 3 of my favorite movies of the last 25 years.

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Yeah, the list is flawed because YOUR PERSONAL favourites aren't there

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yeah because "Do The Right Thing" is such a famous movie... and "Beauty and the Beast" is such a masterpiece and yeah "Brokeback Mountain" is excellent... of course they are all better than "Life is beautiful"

"Life is beautiful" is an excellent movie that had a full story... This movie only wants to have a story. BM had a sick story. B&B had a lame story and "Do the Right Thing" not even made it into the international theathre...

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"BM [BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN] had a sick story."

Would you care to elaborate on that statement, please?

Never mess with a middle-aged, Bipolar queen with AIDS and an attitude problem!
roflol ><

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He's an homophobe trash. Let's not even mention his ridiculous argument against DTRT

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It actually is a joke that Crouching Tiger is about to be out of the Top 250. Anyone who actually follows this list anymore is just pathetic. I hate the top 250

"I'm sorry, did I break your concentration."
GO PHILLIES!!!

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Agreed.

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youre pathetic

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IMDB's Top 250 is by no means a list of the best filmed or written movies of all time. It is simply a list of what people who visit THIS SITE found entertaining.

Nothing more than that.

When you consider the number of people voting on this site in comparison to oh... I dunno... the number of people on the planet, you'll come to realize that the Top 250 List here at good ol' IMDB should most certainly be taken in with a grain of salt... just like any other voting site out there.

In no way, shape, or form should that list be taken seriously.

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Those lists have some worthwhile elements to them, but are usually ridiculous. They want you to think the greatest movies of all time all came within the first 20 years of making movies? Yeah right. Film is like technology, it typically gets better with time with more experience in acting, cinematography, special effects, etc. Plus, it took until the late 60s before you could even make a movie they way you really wanted to, and say what you wanted to say.

The IMDB top 250 list is a better reflection of more modern movies, while those AFI-type lists are a better reflection of 80-year old critics. The movies that appear on both lists would seem to be the the ones you'd consider true greats.

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Just like how people say that Bob Cousy was a better basketball player than Rajon Rondo (even though Rondo would SCHOOL Cousy), or that Jack Dempsey would beat Vitali Klitschko, or that Cy Young was better than Tim Lincecum, or that Rocket Richard was better than Alex Ovechkin or that their 1965 Mustang accelerated faster than the 2011 model. It's all based in nostalgia and reputation. People jump on the bandwagon too.

I hate those lists because they are all movies from the past. The critics want to seem smarter by naming films that people haven't seen in theaters in their lifetime.

The top 100 on that laughable list has exactly one movie made since 1990...except that it was actually filmed before 1990, so not one movie in the top 100 has been made since 1990? And that film (Goodfellas) was ranked #99. Really? No Shawshank, Pulp Fiction, Schindler's List, Fight Club, Usual Suspects, The Matrix, Silence of the Lambs, Seven, Forrest Gump, The Professional, American History X, Terminator 2, American Beauty, Saving Private Ryan, Life is Beautiful, Reservoir Dogs, LA Confidential, Green Mile, Braveheart, Unforgiven, Good Will Hunting, Gladiator, Eternal Sunshine, Wall-E (or any other Pixar film aside from the Cars movies), The Departed, Memento, The Lord of the Rings series, City of God, The Dark Knight, etc. Seriously, none of those is worthy of being in the top 100? Not one?

Expand to the top 250, and only 6 films released since 1990 are included: GoodFellas, Pulp Fiction, In the Mood for Love, Unforgiven, Schindler's List, Sátántangó. Two are foreign films, one of which is a 450 minute long black and white film from Hungary which has basically not been seen by anyone. In fact, according to that PRETENTIOUS list only ~40% of the best movies since 1990 were made in America and only 47% of the best movies of all time are American. Really? That list is a joke. The IMDB list is vastly superior...it's not perfect, but it's definitely better than that joke of a list in the link.

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That is kind of like saying that films, as they age, should be forgotten. I am probably misreading what you are saying but it comes off that way. A lot of these films that you saw in that list hold a lot of importance to the filmmaker. To the wide audience, Citizen Kane does not seem too appealing these days. It seems average at best to MOST people now. Ask a filmmaker why it deserves its praise or many of the other older films from that era. I believe all era of film should be recognized and appreciated. Granted that some people will claim enjoyment for a much older, more average seeming film out of nostalgia or critical acclaim ... but many many many people who hold a historically educated view on film will say different. The IMDB list of the communities highest rated films certainly has some really great ones ... but some really really bad ones too.

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So you think Cars, Wall-E, the Dark Knight, LA Confidential and any other piece of crap that happens to have been during your obviously brief life, is better than all the films made by Bergman, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Lang, Studio Ghibli,and Cocteau? And I would bet a lot of money that you haven;t sever seen of these films, or even heard of those directors.

What basis could you possibly think you have to form a valid opinion on the matter? I'll admit I've never seen a Pixar film, but to judge from the previews I think I might become physically ill if I did.

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Don't take the top 250 seriously. For f-ck's sake, Avatar is on it.

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There are far worse movies than Avatar on that list. Why are Shutter Island, Forrest Gump, and In Bruges on there? I like Pirates of the Caribbean 1 and A Beautiful Mind but they doesn't deserve spots either!

I agree with the others that Crouching Tiger should remain.

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Shutter Island was good, Forrest Gump was excellent, In Bruges was alright.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, should definitely be in there, but the list is nothing more than how many people voted highly for a film, that's all, nothing to do with how good a film is compared to the other.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, has a some-what narrow audience, it's not a super slick action movie with gangsters and conspiracies, it's not a fast and constant burst of martial arts, it's not a comedy, it's not a romance. But it has pretty much all those things combined and even more, maybe except comedy. Which is just enough to make it perfect and that's what is great with this movie. But unfortuantly the thing is; some dimwit watching this, expecting a martial arts movie will complain about the lack of it. Basically, it's stuck in a place not due to itself, but due to the audience, for example, many complain about the "flying" and this just simply proves that how dumb they are and why this movie is stuck.

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Don't take the top 250 seriously. For f-ck's sake, Avatar is on it.


The Dark Knight is now right behind the Godfather I and II as the fourth best movie ever...Pffff-bwahahahahahaha

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Good; I just watched this for the first time and it stinks. This beat Amores Perros for best foreign in 2001? That's a travesty.

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Crouching Tiger is a masterpiece - loved it the first time I saw it - pity you couldn't connect with it. Oh well - won't impact me at all :)

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Life is Beautiful is one of the most perfect, amazing, wonderful movies I have ever seen in my life. That movie absolutely deserves a top position on every list of great films that's ever been compiled. Seems to me the OP didn't comprehend what that movie was actually about, and I pity him for it. He missed out on one of the most beautifully human stories ever composed for the screen.

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It's funny because the two films I am most upset are not in the top 250 are Do the Right Thing and Brokeback Mountain. Great minds think alike.

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A masterpiece?

This movie is so overrated.

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shut up.......

Its a beautiful movie. WITH GREAT cinematography


Stop making fun of Justin Bieber guys..please..leave her alone!!

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