Watched this movie on TV last night.... but could not keep my eyes open to see the last half hour, it was not over until 1.25am !!!! Someone please tell me how it ended... I drifted into semi consciousness as Jean was ordering a fairly tanked up Julie up to her father's study to steal the money so they could run off together. DID THEY !!!!!!!
share...Sadly no - Oi scriptwriters, what's so wrong with a happy ending?! - Julie was ranting so loud about their doomed situation that Jean's wife came down and chastised them both with god-fearing rants...including a very sly dig at her employer. Which of course drove Julie further over the edge. Jean completely broken carries on his duties like any other day - Leaving Julie to take his blade and cut her wrists....You don't even know if she lives cos the film ends there and then
'Meet the new boss...Same as the old Boss'
Thanks for that..... looks like getting some shut eye was the wise option after all. What a let down.
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Your welcome I missed most of it second time around - I felt so sorry for jean, julie was all he wanted
'Meet the new boss...Same as the old Boss'
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The movie is different to the script...
In the script it sounds like he loves her and is in love with her
I think she was pushed over the edge when she wanted to take her bird with her and he chopped the poor guy's head off. She then saw him for what he was...a jerk filled with hate and rage.
shareJulie isn't what he wanted. What he wants is to be is a "gentleman". That's why he regrets sleeping with Julie. He doesn't care about her. He admits that his story of his first love was made up. So if people find out about him and Julia he will never be able to climb up the social ladder. His reference from the Count will be gone and he will have to start from the bottom.
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Scriptwriters ?
Happy ending ?
This is STRINDBERG we're talkin' about ! But u probably don't even know who that is ...
"Persona" von Bergman - my all time favourite, than comes "Dogville" ...
READ the PLAY !
August Strindberg ROCKS !!!
"Persona" von Bergman - my all time favourite, than comes "Dogville" ...
Look I'm a second-timer I'm usually clued up on these things - but I admit I've never read the play, disgraceful I know
'Meet the new boss...Same as the old Boss'
Yeah, you have to laugh. Blame the screenwriter for the script and the ending. Do they still teach Strinberg in modern Lit? Certainly one of the foremost and most influential playwrights of the 19th and 20th centuries. Maybe they should watch Marat/Sade, too, and complain about poorly written musicals, or Waiting for Godot, that dumb comedy.
shareDont worry you missed very little. This film grated my nerves most of the time. The cast was okay but saffron was ridiculously towering over the much shorter Peter Mullan.This was more emphasised when she orders him to stand up and he looks dwarf-like. why such a small man for the part? he was ok but...! The camera work was interesting at first and then got in the way.
shareI think their difference in height was also planned as a symbol for each one's social standing. Saffron towered over Jean in all respects, most of all social and material. So I think it was a good choice.
shareMaybe they felt that the quality of the acting was more important than shallow and trivial complaints like height. Some women are taller than some men in real life so why shouldn't that be represented on screen.
shareIt may have also have been cast that way as a metaphor for their positions, and the nutritional development inherent in their castes, though the actors were perfect in the roles.
shareNot sure why you missed all the symbolisms there.
it was a match for tragic characters
Very well put.
It answers (in its brief way) why good men fall for bad women or good women for bad men. Or, of course, Bad for Bad!
Bad man falls for good women in a true classic: "Ivanhoe" (The Templar Knight, Bois Guilbet, and the Jewess).