My 2nd favorite PM


This is my 2nd favorite Puppet Master movie after #3 - Toulon's Revenge. And I've seen them all except for Legacy.

IMHO this one has more plot, and the 2nd most Guy Rolfe, than any other PM save Toulon's Revenge. I've given up on expecting great animation, but this looked better than the majority of the movies in this series. Not a great movie by any stretch of the imagination, but I gave it a 4/5 on Netflix. As a chapter in the Puppet Saga I thought it carried itself better than the majority of the other films.

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It is pretty good, and has some good story. But not amongst my top favorites. Probably the best of the post-Paramount, though.

I'd actually like to see Greg Sestero and what's her face return for a direct sequel to RETRO. Set ten years later, and show the destruction of the retro puppets, and birth of the cowboy Six-Shooter. But with Full Moon these days, fat chance of that happening.


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Does Sestero have the acting chops to carry it off?

I'd love to see a ten years later story, too - but my feeling is, if you want to make a PM worth the cost of admission, you either have to rely on cool animation or a compelling lead character. Cool animation appears to be out of the question, so you'd have to fall back on story. Guy Rolfe kind of split the lead role with Sestero.

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Does Sestero have the acting chops to carry it off?

Probably not. Other than this he's most famous for THE ROOM. But knowing Full Moon, it would either Greg or someone even worse.

I'd love to see a ten years later story, too - but my feeling is, if you want to make a PM worth the cost of admission, you either have to rely on cool animation or a compelling lead character. Cool animation appears to be out of the question, so you'd have to fall back on story. Guy Rolfe kind of split the lead role with Sestero.

I always envisioned it set in Egypt with the lead villain being a Totem, but for budget reasons that may never happen. Have Andre and Elsa still together, but Elsa struggling to know if she really wants to marry him. Simply for dramatic effect. Include a new American character, probably an actor with a cowboy act. He could become Six-Shooter.

Six-Shooter is one of the three most expensive puppets to work in these films. Along with Torch and Decapitron. If such an idea was made, Six-Shooter the puppet wouldn't be alive until the very end of the film. Have the American die, rebirth as a puppet, and have him destroy the Totem.

I submitted this idea to Full Moon a little while ago in that Plot and Synopsis contest they held, but I didn't make it into the Top 20. They said they picked the 20 best, but I think that's a lie. Chances are these ideas of too far fetched for what Full Moon is capible of doing anymore.


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I like it! Great way of introducing Six-Shooter!

As far as being financially feasible, tho.... I watched a 'making of' featurette of the first (or maybe the second) PM. They were using multiple puppets for different type shots, a small person was working Pinhead's hands for close-up action scenes, etc. Everything on the featurette was EXPEN$IVE, and it kind of broke my heart. You don't need a LotR sized budget, but you have to maintain a certain level.

What's good about your idea (why not an origins story for all the puppets - one per movie)is we already know the puppet character, so you can spend a lot of time with the cheaper live action stuff. I don't know how you crack the f/x issue. I don't watch these movies to see wall to wall puppets in action, but there has to be some in it. And it has to be of acceptable quality (and for God sake give Pinhead back his shoulders)

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Expensive part (aside from Egypt sets and Greg Sestero probably) is the f/x of a Totem killing most of the retro puppets. Maybe not Doctor Death. He looked the coolest, and might be nice to bring him back to join the new team like Blade and Torch.

Call it something like PUPPET MASTER: THE ORIGIN OF SIX-SHOOTER.


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I loved this movie as well. I think Curse of the Puppet Master is my favorite of the sequels so far, but this is my second favorite. I am glad I watched it.

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